【星?!?大關(guān)于庫爾斯克戰(zhàn)役的常見誤區(qū)和錯誤

6.?推遲計劃是為了等更多的新式坦克
6.The plan was?delayed to wait?for more new tanks
各種各樣的軍盲、書籍和紀錄片經(jīng)常說道;希特勒推遲計劃是為了等更多的新式坦克。
All kinds of Military idiots、books and documentary films always said that;Hitler delayed the plan was for to wait for more new tanks。
但是,事實上,新式坦克交付部隊并磨合形成戰(zhàn)斗力只是堡壘計劃推遲的一個原因?
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But,in fact The delivery of the new tanks to the army and the formation of combat effectiveness is just one reason why the fortress plan has been delayed。
希特勒一直在打與不打之間徘徊?
Hitler has been hesitating between fighting and not fighting
Hitler lingered between fighting and not fighting
希特勒一直在打與不打之間徘徊,他十分清楚庫尓斯克戰(zhàn)役對于德軍乃至第三帝國的重要意義,不敢輕易出手
Hitler lingered between fighting and not fighting.He was well aware of the significance of the Battle of Kursk to the German army and the third Reich, and did not dare to act lightly.
他也曾向古德里安表示過他對這個計劃“感到反胃”,所以延遲計劃是因為希特勒的猶豫不決而非一開始就下定決心要打只是為了等新裝甲車輛而推遲進攻。
He had also told Guderian that he was "sick" of the plan。so The delay was due to Hitler's indecision ?Instead of making up his mind to fight in the first place, just to wait for new panzer to delay the attack.、
如果希特勒下定決心決定去打,就算是他只有3號和4號也會立刻進攻的。。。。。
If Hitler decide to attack ,He will do it although he has only PZIII and PZIV would attack at once.
5.?庫爾斯克戰(zhàn)役的每個德軍裝甲師都裝備了新式戰(zhàn)車
Every German panzer?division?at the Battle of Kursk was equipped with new combat vehicles
事實上,庫爾斯克戰(zhàn)役時,德軍只有4個裝甲擲彈兵師(羽林、帝國、骷髏、大德)有一個連的虎式坦克,以及第503和505重裝甲營一共75輛虎式坦克
In fact,at that time,only four Panzergrenadier division(LSSAH、DR、T、GD)had one company’s tiger tanks , and No.503th 、No.505th heavy panzer battalions’s 75 tiger tanks
第39裝甲團有200輛豹d(雖然因為故障,每天只有幾十輛坦克能夠戰(zhàn)斗)、
39th panzer Regiment had 200?Panther?type D tanks、(because of the malfunction,only a few dozen tanks a day can join the battle )
653、654重坦克殲擊營有費迪南坦克殲擊車。。。。。。第216突擊炮營有灰熊
No.653rd、No.654th heavy Jagdpanzer?battalions had Ferdinand?tank destroyers(panzerjager)......No. 216th Sturmpanzer?battalion had ?brummbar Sturmpanzers?
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對幾乎所有的裝甲師來說,當時擁有的最好的坦克是PZIII和PZIV,
For Almost all of the panzer divisions ,the best tanks at the time they had were PZIII and PZIV
甚至將近每一個裝甲師還裝備了少量(10輛左右)輕坦。比如2號、38t這種輕坦
Even nearly every armored division was equipped with a small amount (about 10vehicles)light tanks like PZII or PzKpfw?38(t)
德軍從來沒有讓每一個裝甲師都有豹式坦克,虎式和費迪南可想而知
Germans never let every armored division had Panther tanks.Tiger and Ferdinand?goes without saying。
當然德軍有把重裝甲營加強給裝甲師的做法,戰(zhàn)果通常不錯
比如第5裝甲師在巴格拉季昂行動中
Of course, the German army strengthened the heavy panzer battalion to the panzer division,and it usually got a good result。Like the 5th panzer Division in Operation Bagration.
虎式坦克自不用說Not to mention tiger tanks Tiger tank goes without saying
4.?戰(zhàn)役中德軍裝備了800輛虎式坦克
The German army were equipped with 800 tiger tanks at the battle
事實上,這句話,可能來自于蘇聯(lián)電影《解放》
In fact,this sentence may have came from the Soviet film "Emancipation."
這種老片子在當時那個年代。。。。。。還用我說嗎?當然那個時代都是這個風格的,我覺得挺好的.不應(yīng)該批評過多雖然我不太喜歡俄國
These old films were in those days. 。。。。。。You think it need me said? Of course, that era is this style, I think it’s very good. It shouldn't have been criticized too much.Although I don’like russia very much
整個庫爾斯克戰(zhàn)役,德軍總共才投入130輛虎式坦克而已,還有89輛費迪南、45輛灰熊、200輛豹式坦克
Throughout the Kursk campaign, the German army had invested only 130 Tiger tanks, ?89 Ferdinand tanks, 45?brummbar tanks and?200 Panther tanks.
在二戰(zhàn)中,德軍虎式坦克數(shù)量最多時,不過所有戰(zhàn)線一共653輛虎式坦克而已。。。。。。
不是只有東部戰(zhàn)線。好多時候,許多4號坦克被誤認為虎式坦克。
German Tiger tanks were the largest number in World War II, but there were 653 Tiger tanks on all fronts.not only east front line.Many times, many panzer4 are mistaken for tiger tanks。
3.莫德爾的進攻在48小時內(nèi)宣告失敗
3.Model's attack failed in 48 hours.
《決戰(zhàn)庫爾斯克》和《蘇德戰(zhàn)爭》等書中經(jīng)常出現(xiàn)這種可笑的說法
Such ridiculous claims are often found in books such as Kursk and the Soviet-German War.
雖然莫德爾素有菜鳥公司垃圾桶和莫不攻的綽號,他的進攻也心不在焉,并遭受了巨大的損失。
Although Model is known as the rookie company dustbin and Model never attack.
His attack was absent-minded.And suffered heavy losses
莫德爾在進攻第一天只使用一個裝甲師(PZ20D)和九個步兵師的做法收到詬病,而且進展不大
Model was criticized for using only one 20th?panzer division And nine infantry divisionson the first day of the attack, And progress has been very small
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莫德爾的第9集團軍于1943年7月5日凌晨發(fā)動攻勢,直到蘇軍7月12日在奧廖爾發(fā)動反攻才停止了攻勢
Model's 9th Army launched its offensive in the early hours of July 5, 1943, The offensive was not stopped until the Soviet counteroffensive was launched in Olive on July 12
雖然莫德爾的進攻很是失敗,但莫德爾的進攻在48小時內(nèi)宣告失敗是錯誤的
Although Model's attack was a failure, it was wrong for Model's attack to fail within 48 hours.
2.?西西里的危局使希特勒調(diào)走了黨衛(wèi)軍第2裝甲軍,導致計劃失敗
The Sicilian crisis led Hitler transfer the entire?SS?2rd panzer group?,Cause the plan failed
事實上,希特勒原先的確準備調(diào)走整個黨衛(wèi)軍第2裝甲軍的,
In?fact, Hitler did intend to transfer the entire SS 2rd?Panzer group.
但因為17日位于南方集團軍群南翼的米烏斯河地區(qū)形勢吃緊,所以最后只走了軍部和警衛(wèi)旗隊師的全部人員(重裝備留下來)
But because of the tight situation in the Mius River region on the southern wing of the Southern Army Group on the Jul17th, it ended up leaving all the personnel of the military headquarters and the LSSAH?Division (heavy equipment stay).
戰(zhàn)至17日,德軍在南線實際上已希望不大,在13日德軍設(shè)定的三個目標:殲滅69集團軍(第48軍)、殲滅第5近衛(wèi)坦克集團軍團以及占領(lǐng)普羅霍羅夫卡,但一個都沒有成功,
Fight to Jul17th, the German army actually had little hope on the southern front. On the Jul13th the German army set?three goals: annihilating the 69th Army (48th Army), annihilating the 5th Guards Tank army, and occupying Prokhorov card.But none of it success.
部隊損耗也相當大,黨衛(wèi)軍第2裝甲軍僅余175輛坦克可用,再打去不會有什么進展,
The army’s?loss was?also quite high.?SS?2rd panzer group only had175tanks could fight,There won't be any progress if they keep attack.
再加上蘇軍已經(jīng)在奧廖爾、北頓涅茨河及米烏斯河展開進攻,所以希特勒才中止了進攻
And the Soviet army attacked in Orel, the North Donetz and the Mius, that’s ?why Hitler stopped the attack.
1.?7月12日普羅霍洛夫卡那些事情
1 .Fields in Proholovka Jul12th
普羅霍洛夫卡的爭議和誤區(qū)足夠我再做一期nuts6
The controversy and misunderstanding in Proholovka is enough for me to make another nuts6
事實上這是一場規(guī)模有限的遭遇戰(zhàn),裝甲部隊、步兵、炮兵、空軍等等都參與其中。如果將交戰(zhàn)范圍限于黨衛(wèi)軍第2裝甲軍和蘇軍第5近衛(wèi)坦克集團軍活動的普羅霍羅夫卡附近
In fact, it was a limited encounters.Armored units, infantry, artillery, air force, and so on are involved.If the range of engagement, near Prokhorov. is limited to the activities of the SS 2nd Panzer Army and the Soviet Fifth Guards Tank army.
黨衛(wèi)軍第2裝甲軍有294輛坦克和突擊炮,其中15輛虎式坦克,沒有豹式坦克或者費迪南坦克殲擊車
The ss2nd Panzer had 294 tanks and sturmpanzers, of which 15 are Tiger tanks, with no Panther or Ferdinand tank destroyers。
蘇軍第5近衛(wèi)坦克集團軍部隊編制上有951輛坦克和自行火炮,實際可用826輛,(463輛t-34、301輛t-70、丘吉爾25輛、以及37輛自行火炮)除去對抗第三裝甲軍的坦克,大約730多輛
The Soviet Army's 5th Guards Tank Army had 951 tanks and self-propelled artillery On the establishment,826 could join the battle(463t-34,301 t-70, Churchill 25, and 37 self-propelled artillery)Excluding tanks against the 3rdpanzer group, about 730
如果把戰(zhàn)場范圍縮小到警衛(wèi)旗隊師當面的中央戰(zhàn)場,則雙方只有不到500輛戰(zhàn)車(警衛(wèi)旗隊師77輛,18、29坦克軍403輛)參戰(zhàn),這個爭議很大
If the battlefield is narrowed down to the central battlefield of the guard flag division, there will be fewer than 500 combat vehicles on both sides (77 for the LSSAH division and 403 for the 18、29 tank Group),It's a big controversy.
事實上,整個7月12日的戰(zhàn)斗過程中,拋開可惡的政治。雙方都在英勇的戰(zhàn)斗,這值得肯定。尤其是劣勢之中的蘇軍
Indeed, throughout the fighting on July 12, throw hateful politics . It is commendable that both sides are fighting bravely.Especially the Soviet Army in its inferiority.
但是,不管您是什么看法,我們必須承認,在7月12日的普羅霍洛夫卡,德軍不是取得戰(zhàn)術(shù)勝利而是完全的戰(zhàn)術(shù)勝利!研究軍事歷史不能帶入過多個人情緒
But whatever your opinion, we must admit that in Proholovka on July 12, the Germans won not a tactical victory but a complete tactical victory!The study of military history cannot bring too much personal emotion into it。
除了蘇聯(lián)在二戰(zhàn)中的所謂“捷報”外(不是給斯大林看的),沒有足夠資料能夠證明,這天的戰(zhàn)斗拖垮了黨衛(wèi)軍2軍!
Apart from the Soviets' so-called "victory" in World War II(Not for Stalin).there is no evidence that the day of the battle dragged down the SS 2ndpanzer group!
雖然我不是保羅豪塞爾或者羅特米斯特洛夫,真實具體準確的數(shù)字我們無法得知,但黨2當天徹底損失的坦克為14輛,加上需要回國返修的不過59輛,而蘇軍有270多輛被徹底擊毀,這一天至少損失350輛坦克,甚至可能在5、600之間,
Although I'm not Paul Haussel or Rottmstrov.The total number of tanks Thorough loss that day was 14,only 59 Germantanks were both Thorough loss andneeded to be returned to the country for repairs. More than 270 of the Soviet army were completely destroyed, and at least 350 tanks were lost on the day, possibly in the range of 500 to 600.
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如果真的是那么大的勝利,為何斯大林不立刻嘉獎羅特米斯特羅夫?還差點送他去盧比揚卡享受豪華一生游
If it was such a big victory, why didn't Stalin immediately reward Rottmstrov?And almost sent him to Lubyanka.Enjoy a luxurious tour!(Price; His life.)
對于德國的將軍們來說,7月12日雖然非常緊張,但結(jié)果非常令人愉悅
To German generals,July 12 was very stressful, but the result was very pleasant
并且為什么德軍會瘋了一樣在第二天制定三個瘋狂的計劃?難道德國的將軍都是瘋子?And why did the Germans go crazy making three crazy plans the next day? Are German generals crazy?
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您可以說蘇軍在13日至17日粉碎南線德軍進攻,但不是12日!
You can say that the Soviets smash down the German attack on the southern line from the 13th to 17th, but not on the 12th!
失敗就是失敗,成功就是成功,浮華的粉飾只會招來質(zhì)疑,成為笑話,你本想讓它變得更光鮮,但事實上反而令它更難看!
Failure is failure, success is success, flashy whitewash will only arouse doubt, become a joke。You want to make him looks like better, but it's actually worse.
而且其他關(guān)于普羅霍洛夫卡的問題太多,今天就不再繼續(xù)扯淡了!
And there are so many other questions about Proholovka ,I don’t want to say too more bullshit today.

既然視頻失敗,放個專欄出來,減少損失!