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【龍騰網(wǎng)】美國女子足球隊(duì)剛剛贏得了世界杯,她們理應(yīng)支付跟男隊(duì)一樣的薪酬

2019-07-21 17:50 作者:龍騰洞觀  | 我要投稿

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By The Editorial Board
July 8, 2019
The United States women’snational soccer team has earned a parade. The players also earned a payday atleast equal to their male counterparts.

前言:美國女子國家足球隊(duì)贏得了比賽,也贏得了工資至少與他們的男性球員持平的待遇。

正文:
It is difficult tounderstand the argument that the United States women’s national soccer team shouldget paid just as much as the men’s national soccer team.

很難理解美國女子國家足球隊(duì)?wèi)?yīng)該和男子國家足球隊(duì)得到同樣多的薪水這種說法。



It is anembarrassment that United States Soccer has failed to address thisinjustice, allowing the joy of Sunday’s celebrations to be tainted by thereality of unfair treatment.

令人尷尬的是,美國足球未能解決這種不公平現(xiàn)象,讓周日慶祝活動(dòng)的喜悅被不公平待遇的現(xiàn)實(shí)所玷污。

Pay comparisonsare complicated because the men’s and women’s teams have separately negotiatedcontracts. Members of the women’s team are paid by the federation to play inthe National Women’s Soccer League, on top of which they receive payments forplaying for the national team. The men just get national team payments.

薪酬比較復(fù)雜,因?yàn)槟嘘?duì)和女隊(duì)的合同是單獨(dú)談判的。女子足球隊(duì)的隊(duì)員在參加全國女子足球聯(lián)賽時(shí),由足協(xié)支付工資,除此之外,她們還會(huì)因參加國家隊(duì)而獲得獎(jiǎng)金。這些人只是拿到了國家隊(duì)的薪水。

Under the currentcontract for the women’s team, which took effect in April 2017, the women and the men wouldearn the same amount if both national teams played 20 games — and lost all 20games. With each victory, however, the men’s team would enjoy alarger advantage.

根據(jù)2017年4月生效的女足合同,如果兩支國家隊(duì)都打了20場比賽,并且輸?shù)袅巳?0場比賽,那么女足和男足的收入將是相同的。然而,每取得一場勝利,男隊(duì)就會(huì)獲得更大的優(yōu)勢。

The women can earn more in a given year, as they are likely todo this year. But that is only because they achieved so much. For comparablesuccess, the women get less.

女性在某一年可以賺得更多,就像她們今年可能會(huì)做的那樣。但這只是因?yàn)樗齻內(nèi)〉昧巳绱舜蟮某删?。相比之下,女性獲得的成功更少。

Much of the debate about the paygap has focused on revenue. Officials have argued that the men’s team shouldsimply be regarded as a more successful business.

關(guān)于工資差距的爭論主要集中在收入上。官員們辯稱,男隊(duì)?wèi)?yīng)該被簡單地視為一個(gè)更成功的生意。

Even by this measure, there is a case that the women are beingwronged. It is not clear, for example, how United States Soccer treatssponsorships that cover both teams.

即使按照這個(gè)標(biāo)準(zhǔn),這些女性也受到了委屈。例如,目前還不清楚美國足球如何對(duì)待覆蓋兩支球隊(duì)的贊助的。

But revenue is thewrong measuring stick.
United StatesSoccer is a nonprofit, exempted from taxation because it serves a socialpurpose: “To make soccer, in all its forms, a pre-eminent sport in the UnitedStates.”
It should beobvious to the people who run the federation that the women’s team isfulfilling that mission at least as well as the men’s team.

但收入不是正確的衡量標(biāo)準(zhǔn)。
美國足協(xié)是一個(gè)非盈利組織,免稅是因?yàn)樗?wù)于一個(gè)社會(huì)目標(biāo):“讓足球在美國成為一項(xiàng)杰出的運(yùn)動(dòng)?!?br/>對(duì)于足球協(xié)會(huì)的人來說,很明顯,女子隊(duì)至少和男子隊(duì)一樣正在完成這項(xiàng)任務(wù)。

The women’s soccerteam, like other national teams, also represents the United States. The womenwho wear the nation’s colors are ambassadors on an international stage. Theirperformances inform perceptions of the United States. Millions of people aroundthe world watched on Sunday as a team of strong and skillful women played agame with determination and sportsmanship, and then celebrated freely.

女子足球隊(duì)和其他國家隊(duì)一樣,也代表著美國。穿著這個(gè)國家國旗的女性是國際舞臺(tái)上的大使。他們的表現(xiàn)反映了人們對(duì)美國的看法。周日,世界各地?cái)?shù)以百萬計(jì)的人觀看了一場比賽,一隊(duì)身強(qiáng)體壯、技藝高超的女子以堅(jiān)定的決心和體育精神參加了比賽,然后無拘無束地慶祝。



Pay gaps are apersistent problem in American society. The case of the national soccer teamsis merely an unusually clear and public example of the issue.

在美國社會(huì),工資差距是一個(gè)長期存在的問題。在這個(gè)問題上,國家足球隊(duì)的例子只是一個(gè)異常清晰和公開的例子。

United States Soccer and its 28 female players suing for genderdiscrimination have agreed to enter mediation in the hopes of resolving theplayers’ lawsuit. The federation now has the opportunity to create its own clearand public example — by finally doing the right thing.

美國足球協(xié)會(huì)及其28名女球員因性別歧視提起訴訟,并同意進(jìn)行調(diào)解,希望能解決球員的訴訟。
足協(xié)現(xiàn)在有機(jī)會(huì)通過最終采取正確的行動(dòng),樹立自己明確和公開的榜樣了。

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If they bring on more money than the men theyshould be paid more. They don’t, so where is this money going to be paid from?Taxes?

如果她們能創(chuàng)造比男子更多的收益,那么她們理應(yīng)得到更多薪水。但她們沒有,所以這多出來的薪酬從哪里來?稅收嗎?

Glad someone said it

很高興有人說了出來。

They already are paid more. Higher % ofrevenue than the men


她們已經(jīng)拿到了更高的薪水。收入的百分比比男性高

They don’t want to talk about that.

她們可不想討論這個(gè)。

Just make them play each other Winner take all. Women world cupis equal to under 15 boys world cup in terms of competitiveness.

讓她們互相競爭,贏者通吃。
就競爭力而言,女足世界杯相當(dāng)于15歲以下的男足世界杯。

Well, not really. The under 15 boys team beatthe US women’s team by a score of 5-2

并不。在15歲以下的男孩可是以5-2的比分戰(zhàn)勝了美國女子足球隊(duì)。/笑哭



Big fan of socialism I see. Maybe if the women’s game becomesmore popular worldwide they will generate more revenue and get paid more. Untilthen they should be happy with what they get. Their pro-league also getssubsidized by US Soccer. They get enough handouts.

我看到了一位社會(huì)主義者的死忠啊。
也許如果女子足球在世界范圍內(nèi)變得更受歡迎,她們將創(chuàng)造更多的收入,獲得更多的報(bào)酬。但在那之前,她們應(yīng)該對(duì)自己的所得感到滿意。
她們的職業(yè)聯(lián)賽也得到了美國足球的資助。她們得到了足夠的施舍。

Right, if they can beat the men's team, which they objectivelycan because there the champions, then they should get paid more

是的,如果他們能打敗男隊(duì),客觀地說她們能,因?yàn)樗齻兪枪谲?,那么她們?yīng)該得到更多的報(bào)酬

Except the under 15 boys team beat the womensteam 5-2

除了她們被15歲以下男生隊(duì)以5-2的比分擊敗以外。

Especially when the men’s soccer team didn’t even make the finals. Verysad
actually if the two teams had met, the woman would kick their ass. When isthe last time the men won a World Cup? The men’s team needs to grow a set ofballs since they don’t have any.

尤其是當(dāng)男子足球隊(duì)連決賽都沒進(jìn)的時(shí)候,真的很難過。如果這兩支球隊(duì)相遇了,這些女人會(huì)踢他們的屁股。男隊(duì)需要培養(yǎng),因?yàn)樗麄兪裁炊疾粫?huì)。

Where exactly will the money for the “more” be coming from?

這給女隊(duì)支付的“多出來”的工資,從哪兒來?

No one knows. But it does sounds good to writeit though. How about we come up with real sensible ways to tackle the reasonwomen get 60 cent for every dollar a man makes?

沒人知道。但表面上看挺好的。
我們能不能想出一些真正明智的方法來解決為什么男人掙1美元,女人能掙60美分這個(gè)問題?

Easy to throw around other people’s money.

亂花別人的錢是挺容易的。

Yea like trump

是啊,就像特朗普一樣。

They should get the same pay.

她們理應(yīng)同工同酬。



And how did the USMNT do in Russia in 2018?

在這里口口聲聲贏了比賽,那去年俄國的女子足球比賽又踢得如何?

I completelyagree that @USWNTshouldnot pay the same amount as @USMNT. They should be paid more! The rule thesoccer world

我同意女足比應(yīng)該跟男足的薪酬一樣,因?yàn)樗齻兝響?yīng)得到更多!這才是足球世界的規(guī)則!

The women’s team brought in more revenue than the men’s team, sowhy aren’t they paid more???? Makes no gosh-dang sense at all.

如果女隊(duì)的收益比男隊(duì)高,所以為什么她們的收入沒有增加呢?完全沒有任何意義嘛。



人們似乎被世界杯的薪酬給搞糊涂了。每只隊(duì)都是從總收益中得到收入的。

2019女子世界杯=3000萬美元(收入占比23%)
2018男子世界杯=4億美元(收入占比7%)

而總收益:
女子估計(jì)=1億3100萬美元
男子收益超過60億美元

People are getting mixed up with the money the National Teamreceives with the individual salaries of the women. The Women as a team shouldbe earning equal to the men but the men will always earn more because they playfor professional clubs and the women do not

人們把國家隊(duì)的收入和女運(yùn)動(dòng)員的個(gè)人工資搞混了。作為一個(gè)團(tuán)隊(duì),女性的收入應(yīng)該與男性持平,但男性的收入總是會(huì)更高,因?yàn)樗麄優(yōu)槁殬I(yè)俱樂部效力,而女性則不會(huì)

The female players get 13 percent of therevenue the women’s World Cup generates. Men’s players get 9 percent of therevenue their World Cup generates. The reason the men make more is that theygenerate well over four times as much. If anything, the women are overpaid.

女足獲得了女足世界杯收入的13%。男足球員的收入占世界杯總收入的9%。男性之所以賺得更多,是因?yàn)樗麄兊漠a(chǎn)出女性的四倍還多,遠(yuǎn)超女性。如果說有什么不同的話,那就是這些女性的薪酬過高。

I work in mediawhere we sell advertising space to big clients who spend MILLIONS. Many of ouradvertisers don't want to buy the US women's soccer team spots. Mostly becausethey run on weird times of the day. And the ratings aren't as high as themen's.

我在媒體行業(yè)工作,我們向花費(fèi)數(shù)百萬美元的大客戶出售廣告位。我們的許多廣告商都不想購買美國女足的廣告位。主要是因?yàn)樗齻冊(cè)谝惶熘衅婀值臅r(shí)間點(diǎn)開賽。而且收視率也沒有男性高。

If there arent clients spending and people watching, then whereis the money gonna come from :/

如果沒有客戶在花錢,沒有人在看,那么錢從哪里來呢/不開森

Problem is, they’re suing USSF not FIFA. If they get equal payand bankrupt USSF, it’s a huge win for FIFA. Crappy US men’s soccer is a hugewinfall for FIFA and euro premiere leagues. Nobody sees this? FIFA will bewiping their asses with Steve Jobs status money

問題在于,她們控訴的是美國足協(xié)而非國際足聯(lián),如果她們得到同等工資,導(dǎo)致美國足協(xié)破產(chǎn),這將是國際足聯(lián)的巨大勝利。
對(duì)國際足聯(lián)和歐洲頂級(jí)聯(lián)賽來說,爛透了的美國男足是一場巨大的勝利。
沒有人看到嗎?國際足聯(lián)將用史蒂夫?喬布斯的身份錢給他們擦屁股的



Why is there any need to debate this? The womenare bringing in ratings, fans, and sponsors. Yet, they aren't paid a fair wage.Absolutely not the American way. (at least the one we want future immigrants tobelieve). Lies.

為什么有必要對(duì)此進(jìn)行辯論?這些女性帶來了收視率、粉絲和贊助商。然而,他們的工資并不公平。絕對(duì)不是美國的方式(至少是我們希望未來移民相信的)。這就是謊言。

Gender braised

又是性別的陳詞濫調(diào)。

Why not make this simple. Have them play themen’s team. If it’s close or a draw then equal pay. If they hammer the men,give them more, if they get hammered then let’s all get back to reality and paythem what they’re worth.

為什么不簡單點(diǎn)。
讓她們參加男子隊(duì)比賽,如果勢均力敵,那么同工同酬。如果擊敗了男子隊(duì),那么就支付更多錢。
如果她們被打敗了,讓我們回到現(xiàn)實(shí)中,給她們應(yīng)得的報(bào)酬。


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