【786章（不死者-54章）報(bào)假賬】

?Ozwin ?

Sparrow on assassinations: “Doing is its own advertising.”

暗殺中的斯帕羅：“人頭就是最好的廣告?！?/p>

?Alessan ?

If her teacher is asking about her Digestion progress that means he likely has future formulas and perhaps even ingredients. Seems like Fors has a relatively smooth road ahead of her in the short term.

如果她的老師問她消化進(jìn)度如何，這就意味著他很有可能手里還有后續(xù)的配方，甚至是材料。看起來佛爾思在短期內(nèi)，面前的晉級(jí)之路會(huì)相對好走一些。

?PotatOS ?

I very much hope Fors remembers reimbursing that 10.000 pounds from the Abraham family!!! Klein needs his payment!! He isn't a charity God after all!

我真的非常希望佛爾思能記得向亞伯拉罕家報(bào)銷一下那一萬鎊！?。】巳R恩很需要這筆錢?。‘吘顾植皇谴壬浦?！

Oddpancakes ?

All the members of the club are relatively lucky. They all seem to get their promotions very smoothly.

塔羅會(huì)所有的成員運(yùn)氣都好好啊。他們的晉升看起來都非常順暢。

（回復(fù)樓上） Snapplemonkey ?

I don't think it's luck. To date, every person chosen to join the club have all been usefull to Klein. So maybe the grey fog chooses people who can help Klein ascend to godhood, and the easeof their advancement are taken into consideration when chosen. Because they need to keep up with Klein to stay usefull to him.

我不覺得這是因?yàn)檫\(yùn)氣。目前為止，所有選擇加入塔羅會(huì)的成員都給克萊恩帶來了好處。所以也許灰霧選擇了能幫助克萊恩獲得神格的人，而且這個(gè)選擇是考慮到了他們的晉級(jí)速度的。因?yàn)樗麄兿胍獙巳R恩來說一直有用的話，就得跟上克萊恩晉級(jí)的速度。

（回復(fù)樓上） Snapplemonkey ?

One is rich and has access to resources, one has connections with a church, one has a teacher that helps advancements. Two belong to hidden organizations that gives benefits in exchange for merits, and one works directly under a demigod. They all had previous situations that would make progressing easy under certain circimstances.

一個(gè)富有的、有各種資源的成員，一個(gè)在教會(huì)有人脈的成員，一個(gè)有老師幫忙晉級(jí)的成員。兩個(gè)隸屬于隱秘組織并且能進(jìn)行互惠交換的，還有一個(gè)直接在半神手下工作的。他們在加入之前都有自己的獨(dú)特條件，能幫助他們在現(xiàn)在這個(gè)狀況下輕松地進(jìn)行等級(jí)提升。

?Randompasserby ?

Wait her teacher is only an Astrologer himself?

Oh yeah... I forgot about his family's curse and he doesn't have a convenient Fool to pray to ??

Can't wait for further waves of Gehrman Sparrow finishing a hunt in Backlund in future chapters ??????

等等，她的老師只是一個(gè)占星人？哦好吧……我忘了他們家族有那個(gè)詛咒了，而且他也沒有一個(gè)方便的愚者可以天天祈禱……迫不及待想看格爾曼·斯帕羅完成這次狩獵之后在貝克蘭德掀起的后續(xù)波瀾了~

（回復(fù)樓上） meahime ?

IIRC it was once said currently Abraham family doesnt even have any demigods left.. Lewis Wien and some others, who were the Abraham family's students, was able to betray the Abraham family because they were much stronger(sequence 6~5+, while the teachers are sequence 7~6 at most).

如果我沒記錯(cuò)的話之前說過，目前的亞伯拉罕家族一個(gè)半神都沒?！芬姿埂ぞS恩和其他一些人之前都是亞伯拉罕家族的學(xué)生，他們背叛了亞伯拉罕，因?yàn)樗麄兪种械牧α扛鼜?qiáng)（序列6~5以上，而老師們頂多只有序列7~6）。

?SaintBookwormLich ?

Nooo?? I wish could read the reaction of teacher Dorian about Gerhman Sparrow ?? did he knew about the incident in Bayam or did he not?... I want to know ??

不——我本來期望著能讀到多里安老師對格爾曼·斯帕羅的反應(yīng)的……他有沒有聽說過拜亞姆發(fā)生的事情？我超級(jí)想知道qwq

?Davidwrn ?

And hence, the legend of Gehrman Sparrow begun... Can’t wait for the day when he starts hunting evil demigods.

而且由此一來，格爾曼·斯帕羅的傳奇就此展開了……迫不及待想看他開始狩獵邪惡半神的時(shí)候了。

【787章（不死者-55章）多里安的告誡】

?Alessan ?

Interesting chapter, hopefully Xio will be fine. This might be her grand stage coming up.

Also random note I recently reread the first Tarot meeting in chapter 5 and noticed that Alger scammed the HECk our of Audrey. He traded a Sequence 9 formula for the main ingredient of a Sequence 7 potion. Classic Alger smh.

這章有意思，希望休會(huì)平安無事。接下來可能有她大顯身手的時(shí)候了。

而且順便一提，我最近重讀了第5章的第一次塔羅聚會(huì)，然后注意到阿爾杰狠狠地敲了奧黛麗一大筆啊。他用一份序列9的配方交易了一件序列7魔藥的主材。這很阿爾杰。*搖頭*

（回復(fù)樓上） Sollkiri ?

You can't scam a rich girl. Since in the end, she's still filthy rich.

對富婆來講根本沒有所謂的“敲詐”。直到最后，最有錢的還會(huì)是她。

（回復(fù)一樓） Demoneastz ?

lmao took you 787 chapters to realise that!! it showed how skilled Alger at scamming that even you got scammed hahahaha

哈哈哈哈你竟然花了787章才意識(shí)到！這又展示了阿爾杰在唬人和哄騙上是如此嫻熟，甚至連你都被他騙得團(tuán)團(tuán)轉(zhuǎn)，哈哈哈哈

（回復(fù)一樓） Davidwrn ?

And you were very right when you compared the asking price of assassination with the 10.000 pounds one for the Intis Ambassador. It is really cheap. But then again, Klein did not do it just for money

而且你之前把克萊恩這次暗殺的要價(jià)和那次暗殺因蒂斯大使的1萬鎊作比較，說得非常對。這個(gè)價(jià)格實(shí)在是太便宜了。但是，克萊恩也不是只為了錢才做這事的

?Ozwin ?

Well, I knew that assassination went a bit too well. I wonder what the near future bares in terms of consequences and eldritch spooky weirdness/calamity.

好吧，我就知道暗殺進(jìn)行得有點(diǎn)太順利了。不知道接下來會(huì)帶來什么樣的后果，會(huì)發(fā)生怎樣離奇詭異、超自然性質(zhì)的事件。

?threetakewonder ?

Love how all these experienced beyonders dont know what Gherman is thinking and can’t believe he could murder demigods

這些經(jīng)驗(yàn)老道的非凡者們都猜不出來格爾曼是怎么想的，對于他能殺半神難以置信的這些反應(yīng)我實(shí)在是太愛看了

?Alessan ?

Fors really lies to her teacher a lot.

佛爾思真的對她的老師撒了好多謊。

（回復(fù)樓上） Davidwrn ?

When you started something with a lie then you will follow up with subsequent lies after lies. In a way, Klein is a bigger liar than Fors. His whole identity is a lie

一旦你開始了一個(gè)謊言，就要用更多后續(xù)的謊言來彌補(bǔ)。從某種角度來說，克萊恩是個(gè)比佛爾思更大的騙子。他的整個(gè)身份都完全是謊言

（回復(fù)一樓） nothingworks ?

If you made something up and it ended up becoming true, is it still a lie? Klien as The Fool. ??

如果你編造了一件事，最后你卻把這事做成了，那這還算謊言嗎？就像愚者克萊恩那樣

?Amathyn ?

It's a good thing Klien was in the church at the time. between his own means of interfering with divinations and the church's countermeasures, then if said evil was from the Aurura Order, they will likely only know that their target is still in Buckland, possibly in/associated with the Church of the Evernight and will more then likely give up on retribution because of the amount of Saint/Angles that can rise to the challenge should they even try.

還好克萊恩準(zhǔn)時(shí)出現(xiàn)在教堂了。他自己有干擾占卜手段，還有學(xué)自教會(huì)的反偵察手段，所以如果說這個(gè)惡人是極光會(huì)的，他們就很有可能只有“他們的目標(biāo)還在貝克蘭德”，可能和黑夜教會(huì)有關(guān)系這條信息，這就很有可能會(huì)讓他們放棄進(jìn)行報(bào)復(fù)，因?yàn)檫@里的圣者/天使的數(shù)量太多了，多到就不應(yīng)該試圖正面挑戰(zhàn)

?ResidentialPsycho ?

Looks like Fors got money and a bonus with that ingredient, crystal ball, and formula. Of course, she can't say the reason "Gehrman Sparrow" helped her is that they're friends and he hates the Aurora Order anyway.

看來佛爾思拿到了錢，還有額外獎(jiǎng)勵(lì)的魔藥材料，水晶球，和配方。當(dāng)然，她沒辦法把“格爾曼·斯帕羅”幫她的真實(shí)理由是因?yàn)樗麄兪桥笥讯宜幌矚g極光會(huì)之類的東西說出來。

?RaYak ?

What are the points used that I get for reading? Earlier it was Spirit Stones but now... I don't even know wtf it is

最近讀完更新會(huì)獎(jiǎng)勵(lì)的這個(gè)點(diǎn)數(shù)是個(gè)什么玩意？之前是靈石（起點(diǎn)幣），但是現(xiàn)在……我甚至都不知道這玩意是個(gè)嘛

（回復(fù)樓上） Tichaosius ?

points to troll every reader, something you can accumulate for years then used to buy a 3-day voucher.

是個(gè)用來騙人的玩意，你攢個(gè)一年可能也就夠換個(gè)3天的優(yōu)惠券。

【788章（不死者-56章）隱秘通道】

?Alessan ?

Somewhat interesting that Senor couldn’t find anything even after swimming through the dirt. I can’t imagine that whatever might be buried would be further than 50 meters if Hazel is digging out passages personally. There are also two passages instead of just one so perhaps it isn’t as simple as a hidden item? I remain curious.

Unrelated point. I feel like Klein is missing out a great deal by not using his Spirit Vision. He’s mentioned a few times in the past that he’s noticed people acting strangely but he can’t interpret why because he isn’t a Spectator. If he used his Sprit Vision to determine their emotions it would almost be like he’s a budget Telepathist. His Spirit vision was already quite useful at Sequence 9 and now that he’s Sequence 5 it should be very powerful. Especially when talking to more ordinary people.

Speaking of old beyonder powers. Didn’t Klein purchase an entire book ‘Quintessential Divination and Arcane Arts of the Qin and Han Dynasties.’ If his luck enhancement ritual that he uses to access the gray fog came from there there are good odds that the rest of the book is real as well. He can use Dream divination to remember! If a random ritual granted the gray fog who knows what kind of crazy powers the rest could provide. Obviously it’s highly dangerous but if he manages to divine the danger beforehand it’s probably well worth the attempts. A god in more than name!

有意思的是，塞尼奧爾在泥土里什么都沒找到。如果海柔爾是自己一個(gè)人在挖隧道的話，我實(shí)在沒法想象還有什么東西能藏在比五十米更深的深處。而且這里有兩個(gè)通道，而不是一個(gè)，所以也許這事并沒有“藏了一個(gè)東西”這么簡單？真的很好奇。

另外提一個(gè)和這事不相關(guān)的地方。我感覺克萊恩已經(jīng)因?yàn)椴婚_啟靈視錯(cuò)過很多東西了。他之前踢過好幾次，他發(fā)現(xiàn)有些人的舉止很奇怪，但因?yàn)樗皇怯^眾，所以不知道原因會(huì)是什么。如果他打開自己的靈視能力，就可以看他們的情緒是什么顏色，這幾乎就能讓他變成一個(gè)弱化版讀心者了。他的靈視能力在序列9的時(shí)候就已經(jīng)非常好用了，現(xiàn)在他都序列5了，應(yīng)該會(huì)變得更強(qiáng)才對。特別是我們說的還都是普通人。

說到以前的非凡者能力，克萊恩以前不是買過一本“秦漢秘傳方術(shù)紀(jì)要”嗎？如果他使用的那個(gè)能讓他進(jìn)入灰霧之上的轉(zhuǎn)運(yùn)儀式就是來自于這本書里的，那這本書里其他的東西也有很大概率都是真的。他可以用夢境占卜來讓自己把這些內(nèi)容回想起來??！如果隨便一個(gè)儀式就能讓他得到灰霧，那誰知道其他的內(nèi)容能給他帶來什么樣的吊炸天的能力呢。這顯然很危險(xiǎn)，但如果他能成功占卜出其中的危險(xiǎn)，那這就很值得一試。（他有機(jī)會(huì)成為）一個(gè)不是空有頭銜的神明！

（回復(fù)樓上）SaintBookwormLich

是啊，自從第一卷的占卜俱樂部之后，克萊恩的確是都忘記了他還有靈視能力了，和人們的靈體/氣場有關(guān)的理論再也沒出現(xiàn)過了……真可惜。

（回復(fù)樓上）AnthonyCerbic

因?yàn)樗靵y敲眉心，結(jié)果眉心功能受到了傷害，所以他要給它放個(gè)假。

（回復(fù)二樓）Randompasserby

如果我沒記錯(cuò)的話，他的靈視能顯示的東西大多是和健康狀況或者表面的情緒有關(guān)的。作為占卜家來說，面對普通人的時(shí)候靈視是挺有幫助，但很不幸的是，在最近這些和中-高序列非凡者有關(guān)的冒險(xiǎn)中，靈視不怎么派的上用場。

而且，以他這總是碰上他不該碰上的東西的幾率，我懷疑他甚至是故意抑制了自己的靈視或者啥的。我覺得靈感更安全也更有用一些……

【789章（不死者-57章）各自的周一】

Austragus

現(xiàn)在我們終于知道為什么黑皇帝牌一直都在羅賽爾手里了。他想要用這條途徑自己成神。

（回復(fù)樓上）Alessan

我們目前沒看到任何地方有說這條途徑和工匠途徑可互換，不過還是有一點(diǎn)可能的。我們知道通識(shí)者和窺秘人是可互換的，而且我們知道仲裁人和律師是可互換的，所以它們四個(gè)途徑是一個(gè)可互換的大組也是有可能的。他稱帝的行為也很符合這一點(diǎn)，但作為他治下的帝國，因蒂斯除此之外也沒有什么特殊的地方，只是一個(gè)帝國，這是唯一的吻合之處。最后，我們對于他日記里提到的那三個(gè)序列1特性或者唯一性目前都一無所知。不過在貝爾納黛開始提供大帝晚年的筆記之前，我們看到的日記應(yīng)該也沒幾頁是他晚年的記錄。

（回復(fù)樓上）Dex2

我們已經(jīng)有一些能證明他們不是可互換途徑的證據(jù)了。羅賽爾第一次提到他想要通過黑皇帝途徑成神的時(shí)候，克萊恩很驚訝，因?yàn)榱_賽爾這是要做和亞利斯塔·圖鐸一樣的事情，那就是選擇一條不相鄰的途徑成神。

那時(shí)候羅賽爾從序列2的通識(shí)者途徑轉(zhuǎn)到了序列1窺秘人（知識(shí)皇帝）途徑，所以我們就知道，這兩途徑是可互換的了。但這四條途徑之間應(yīng)該是不可互換的。

Ozwin

耶，塔羅聚會(huì)到了！這次的日記開頭就很厲害啊。不知道我們會(huì)不會(huì)從日記中得知一些和神明有關(guān)的細(xì)節(jié)。

MondSemmel

哈哈，可憐的埃姆林，他當(dāng)然不習(xí)慣白天出門了。我喜歡這些小花絮。

PHOTON_EFFECT

所以羅賽爾你還真的試著沖擊黑皇帝了……哇哦，看來這個(gè)家伙最后可真是夠絕望的哈，我們主角的前輩運(yùn)氣可真是糟糕，這故事也太悲傷了

【790章（不死者-58章）日記的尾聲】

?Alessan ?

I feel like the Moon is the probably key to everything. As for what’s actually on it, I really wonder! Lilith’s state, the Primordial Moon, The Evernight Goddess’s claim to the domain and the fact that the Sequence 0 is still empty leave so many unanswered questions...

我感覺月亮可能就是一切事情的關(guān)鍵。至于上面到底有什么，我也真的很好奇！莉莉絲現(xiàn)在的狀態(tài)，原始月亮，黑夜女神對于這個(gè)領(lǐng)域宣稱的權(quán)柄，和這個(gè)序列的序列0依然空缺的事實(shí)，這一切都留下了太多未解謎題……

（回復(fù)樓上） MondSemmel ?

It's also noteworthy that the moon featured ominously and prominently in the first few chapters of this story, right after Klein's transmigration.

同樣值得注意的是，月亮在克萊恩剛剛穿越之后不久就開始發(fā)出不祥的光芒，而且描寫突出了這一點(diǎn)。

（回復(fù)一樓） swampboy45 ?

Agree, so many "gods" are associated with the moon, yet none control its aspects.

同意，太多和月亮有聯(lián)系的“神明”了，但卻沒有一個(gè)真正掌控了它的領(lǐng)域。

（回復(fù)一樓） Daoistbb ?

You write The best comments on Webnovel

您的評論是webnovel最牛逼的評論

（回復(fù)一樓） Marukusius ?

Love the way you put the info of the story in these comments, keep it up!!!

真的很喜歡你把故事信息在評論區(qū)羅列出來的方式，加油?。?！

（回復(fù)樓上） Alessan ?

Glad you appreciate it! Thanks for the kind words :)

很高興你能喜歡這些評論！謝謝你的贊美 :)

（回復(fù)樓上） BlackKnight42 ?

I can recognize you as easily as thestatsguy. I always wonder if other people recognize me from previous posts.

你在評論區(qū)簡直就像thestatsguy一樣好認(rèn)。我總是在想不知道有沒有人從我之前的評論認(rèn)出我。

【thestatsguy是個(gè)在webnovel小說打分區(qū)非常活躍的賬號(hào)，負(fù)責(zé)搬運(yùn)這本書的中文原版在中文平臺(tái)的各項(xiàng)數(shù)據(jù)，比如點(diǎn)擊、月票、推薦票數(shù)等等，基本上每本書下面都能看到他】

?MondSemmel ?

And thus, it becomes clearer why this fourth volume of Lord of the Mysteries is titled 'Undying': emperor Roselle may or may not be alive right now, but as a Sequence 0 Black emperor, even if he's dead, there's a way to revive him with the help of his mausoleums. In other words, he's one of the Undying.

(Amusingly, Klein is Undying in a different sense, due to the remnant effects of the gray fog or his transmigration. And Mr. Azik and Zaratul, due to their demigod powers. And so on.)

而且，詭秘之主的第四卷為何名叫“不死者”的原因越來越清晰了：羅塞爾大帝現(xiàn)在有可能還活著，也有可能已經(jīng)死了，但作為序列0黑皇帝，即使他已經(jīng)死了，還是有辦法在他布置的復(fù)活方法的幫助下復(fù)活他的。換句話說，他也是不死者的一員。

（有意思的是，克萊恩從另一種意義上來說也是不死者，因?yàn)榛异F遺留下來的影響，或者他的穿越。而且阿茲克先生和查拉圖，因?yàn)樗麄兊陌肷衲芰σ彩遣凰勒?。等等等等。?/p>

（回復(fù)樓上） Dex2 ?

That is if Roselle carried out the ritual successfully and became a black emperor even if for a short while. I am just glad none of his pathways are close to Seer so even if he returns, he wouldn't necessarily be an enemy to Klein

那前提是羅賽爾成功舉行了儀式，而且成為了黑皇帝，即使是只有短短幾秒。我只是很高興，他轉(zhuǎn)過的任何一條途徑都不和占卜家相鄰，所以即使他回歸了，也沒有必要成為克萊恩的敵人

【791章（不死者-59章）新模式】

?OpinionatedPotato ?

Audrey be like "I can just throw money at it"

奧黛麗這感覺像是“啊我又可以撒幣了！”

?Demoneastz ?

Audry brought the " Shut up and take my money" meme to real life lmao

奧黛麗是把那個(gè)“Shut up and take my money”的表情包帶到現(xiàn)實(shí)里了，哈哈哈哈哈

?Alessan ?

Black Screen? I wonder what that is.

“黑幕”？不知道這是什么技能。

（回復(fù)樓上） Jackodaniels ?

Probably a trickmaster spell.

可能是戲法大師的咒法。

（回復(fù)樓上） Alessan ?

It could be but it wasn't mentioned in chapter 542 when we heard about a bunch of Trickmaster powers after Fors consumed the potion.

有可能，但在542章沒提過啊，那章有介紹佛爾思喝了魔藥晉級(jí)戲法大師獲得的一系列技能。

（回復(fù)樓上） Dex2 ?

True but it did say "She obtained quite a number of spells with lower potency. Among them, Fors's favorites were..."

It shows there were others just that they were not mentioned. Just like when Klein became a Magician, apart from those listed, some were said not to have practical application to him.

是這樣，但里面也說了“她獲得了一系列效用較低的戲法。在這些戲法中，佛爾思最喜歡的是……”

這意思就是除了這里提到的戲法之外還有一些其他沒提到的。就像是克萊恩成為魔術(shù)師的時(shí)候，除了那些列出的能力之外，還有一些對他來說不太實(shí)用的。

?ResidentialPsycho ?

It'll be funny if people start recognizing this object in the hands of different members of the Tarot Club.

如果人們開始通過這本書在誰手里來辨認(rèn)誰是塔羅會(huì)成員就好玩了……

?SRandom ?

Sharing economy lmao

共享經(jīng)濟(jì)還行，我笑死

【792章（不死者-60章）“愚者”的“權(quán)柄”】

?CKtalon ?

These are the 4 chapters for getting #8 on the Power Ranking this week.

Please do not resort to piracy. It hurts the translator and the author. Webnovel is trying to get this adapted by Netflix or some other Western entity, so don't do stupid ****.

這是本周月票榜第八的4章爆更。拜托請不要去閱讀盜版，這對翻譯者和作者都是一種傷害。webnovel正在向Netflix或者其他某些西方公司探討改編這部作品的可能，所以拜托不要做蠢事。

（回復(fù)樓上） No_glow ?

If this amazing, brilliant, wonderful book is adapted as it should be, I will be jumping from joy ??????

Waiting to hear the good news.

如果這本驚艷絕倫、無與倫比的小說真的得到了它應(yīng)得的改編，我會(huì)高興得跳起來的！

坐等好消息。

（回復(fù)一樓） Mugyu ?

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

We're talking about netflix here and with their questionnable adaptation.

這算是件好事還是壞事？

我們說的可是Netflix啊，他們可有不少非常有問題的改編作品。

（回復(fù)樓上） Anna_94 ?

is dinsney+ better?. cureently The witcher is in netflix i saw it alot people like it and dont. but its actually not that bad. is there other beside netflix?. HBO or BBC perhaps?.

Disney+會(huì)不會(huì)更好一些？目前獵魔人的電視劇上了Netflix，我看了不少，有人喜歡也有人不喜歡。但它其實(shí)也沒有那么糟糕。還有其他除了Netflix以外的人想改編嗎？HBO或者也許BBC?

【Disney+是迪士尼自己搞的一個(gè)網(wǎng)絡(luò)流媒體頻道，會(huì)播放一系列自產(chǎn)劇集，BBC和HBO也是非常知名的電視頻道，每年都有大量自產(chǎn)劇集，Netflix就是大家都知道的網(wǎng)飛，首先開創(chuàng)網(wǎng)劇模式的公司】

（回復(fù)樓上） CKtalon ?

That's assuming that the West thinks it's something worth investing money into. If there's no choice, I think the quality of the production is lowest on the priority list.

那就得看西方企業(yè)會(huì)不會(huì)覺得這個(gè)項(xiàng)目值得投那么多錢進(jìn)去了。如果沒有選擇的話，我覺得這個(gè)項(xiàng)目制作的質(zhì)量可能會(huì)在他們的考慮順位上排最后。

（回復(fù)樓上） Anna_94 ?

woah that actually hurt to read man imagining your favorite book getting half assed adaptation just for quic grab. thats hurt. if its 5 year from now or more to get proper adaptation i really dont mind. why not try it with other adaptation first. like Manga perhaps?.

呃啊，看到人們推測你最喜歡的小說會(huì)被潦草改編成一個(gè)半吊子玩意實(shí)在是太傷心了。如果他們愿意從現(xiàn)在起花5年時(shí)間或者更長時(shí)間來做一個(gè)盡善盡美的改編我都不會(huì)介意的。為什么不先試試用其他形式進(jìn)行改編呢。也許漫畫？

（回復(fù)樓上） DeadmanWhisperer ?

Or anime. *suddenly feel hyped*

或者動(dòng)畫。*突然激動(dòng)*

（回復(fù)樓上） Anna_94 ?

if its an anime adaptation i belive Tencent can do it. they are in charge for King avatar right. and look how it turn out. ITS ACTUALLY GOOD. Ngl its already in par with these big studio in japan. if Ufotable and their Animation is 12. King avatar already at 11.

如果是動(dòng)畫改編，我相信騰訊自己就能做。他們之前負(fù)責(zé)了全職高手的制作對吧，而且看看最后成品，其實(shí)非常好看不是嗎！而且他們已經(jīng)能和日本的大牌動(dòng)畫制作工作室相提并論了，如果Ufotable和他們的作品打分12分的話，那全職高手已經(jīng)做到11分了。

（回復(fù)樓上） DeadmanWhisperer ?

Mmm.. well, I agree that Tencent can make it good but I disagree when you're saying that they on par with big studios in japan. If you read shingeki no kyojin manga, the drawing is so ugly that you give up on reading it but the studio make it epic + the seiyuu themselves was born to be their respective characters lol

唔……呃，我同意騰訊是能做出不錯(cuò)的東西，但你說他們已經(jīng)能和日本的大工作室相提并論，這我不同意。如果你看過進(jìn)擊的巨人的漫畫，你能看到他的畫功其實(shí)很爛，會(huì)讓你讀不下去，但是動(dòng)畫制作的工作室讓這一切顯得如此宏大，還有聲優(yōu)們，簡直就像是生來就為這個(gè)角色打造的一樣2333

（回復(fù)樓上） CKtalon ?

It really depends on the budget. You get what you pay. For LOTM, it's unlikely to be adapted for the Chinese market since it's unlikely to do well due to sheer cultural barriers; hence, less investment. It's also why Webnovel is just directly trying to make an adaptation in the West with the help of Hollywood studios. And since it's completely "unknown" now, it's really difficult for the studios to invest much money in it. You have to view it from the perspective of all the stakeholders.

這就真的完全取決于預(yù)算了。你花多少錢就有多少錢的效果。對詭秘之主來說，這在中國市場里不太可能得到改編，因?yàn)槲幕趬镜拇嬖?，你很難改編的很好；因此，能獲得的投資也會(huì)少。這也是為什么webnovel正在試圖直接在西方進(jìn)行改編的原因，還能獲得一些好萊塢工作室的幫助。而且，因?yàn)楝F(xiàn)在還是完全“未知”的狀況，對工作室來說，投很多錢進(jìn)去也是很困難的一件事。你得從所有利益相關(guān)者的角度來看待這件事。

（回復(fù)樓上） DeadmanWhisperer ?

Thats remind me of Attack on Titan movie. Felt like eating s#it while watching it. But the appearance of LOTM in media (either good or bad) is enough to make any director see its potential

這讓我想到進(jìn)擊的巨人的電影改編。感覺看的時(shí)候簡直像是在吃翔。但詭秘之主的影像改編（不管是好還是壞）已經(jīng)能讓任何一名導(dǎo)演看到它的潛力了。

（回復(fù)樓上上） Anna_94 ?

event though LOTM itself always number one in qidian china. its really that bad marketplace in there?. why LOTM got rank 1 but the marketplace in china itself actualy arenot that good for western type fantasy.

即使詭秘自己在中國起點(diǎn)已經(jīng)蟬聯(lián)榜首好幾次了都這樣嗎？那里的市場真的就這么不好嗎？為什么詭秘都拿到月票榜首了，但西幻在中國的市場還是非常不好的？

（回復(fù)樓上） CKtalon ?

Investors just aren't willing to take the risk for financial reasons. Also, LOTM is popular among the relatively younger people, but if you are making a drama or movie adaptation, it's not going to attract the older folks. And a lot of Chinese readers actually find LOTM hard to read because of all the English names, etc. So it just adds another obstacle for mass appeal.

因?yàn)榻?jīng)濟(jì)原因，投資者們根本不愿意冒這種風(fēng)險(xiǎn)。而且，詭秘之主是在相對年輕的群體中比較流行，但如果你改編成電視劇或者電影，對比較高齡的群體就不會(huì)有吸引力了。而且很多中國讀者其實(shí)覺得詭秘之主很難讀，因?yàn)楦鞣N英文名字，等等等等。所以這就又給這本書的大眾度增加了一個(gè)障礙。

（回復(fù)六樓） No_glow ?

In my opinion this book has the potential to be a better series than GoT...

And manga adaptation will work, but some of the stuff that gets turned to webtoons these days are so stupid that I worry for the book.

我的觀點(diǎn)是這本書有潛力成為比權(quán)力的游戲還棒的電視劇集……

而且漫畫改編應(yīng)該也不錯(cuò)，但這些年很多漫畫作者都去畫那種條漫了，這些東西實(shí)在是太蠢了，我有點(diǎn)擔(dān)心這本書會(huì)不會(huì)。

【webtoon=web cartoon=條漫】

（回復(fù)樓上） Anna_94 ?

this, no offense but the webtoon adaptation for CN webnovel somehow its leave bad taste in mouth. for example Release that witch, i hope more from it. meanwhile Korean WN doing lot better like what they do to Solo leveling and second coming of glutony.

這，無意冒犯，但中國網(wǎng)文改編的這類條漫，總是給人留下很不好的印象。比如放開那個(gè)女巫，我對它真的寄予更高的期望。同時(shí)韓國網(wǎng)文在這方面做得就好很多，比如《單刷升級(jí)》和《第二次人生》。

【Solo Leveling=? ??? ???=沒有找到官方譯名，就字面譯作單刷升級(jí)了

second coming of gluttony=??? ??，第二次人生這個(gè)名字我機(jī)翻的，求韓文大佬指正！】

（回復(fù)樓上） CKtalon ?

It might be that or never. But it does serve one purpose, get people (in the West) to know about it. That might result in a remake or reboot. The old Marvel movies in the 80s/90s were terrible, but it was still a good IP worth developing. It just needed a vision by good directors. You can see how LOM is actually perfect for such an unfolding ala Marvel. You can have different characters in the same universe, completely unrelated to the main story line, but they can have their own storylines and arcs. This is what's more important.

可能會(huì)改編，但可能永遠(yuǎn)也不會(huì)。但這一切都是為了一個(gè)目的，就是讓（西方的）觀眾們知道這部作品。這可能會(huì)導(dǎo)致以后出現(xiàn)重制作品或者重啟什么的。漫威在80/90年代的老電影制作都糟糕透了，但它還是一個(gè)非常值得開發(fā)的IP。這需要的只是一個(gè)好導(dǎo)演的青睞。你可以發(fā)現(xiàn)，詭秘是如此適合像漫威構(gòu)建的方式一樣展開自己的世界觀。在同一個(gè)宇宙里可以存在不同的角色，他們和主線可能完全不相關(guān)，但他們有自己的故事線和劇情。這一點(diǎn)是更為重要的。

（回復(fù)樓上）Anna_94 ?

this what i want. "make more peoples know about it", by turn it into other media (animation,comic,live adaptation) its happening in my circle when i recommend webnovel they didnot bite it. but its difference when it got adaptation(webtoon for example). back then i insisting, "read Solo leveling" but when they know its WN "nah" but then its got adapted into webtoon and they bite it . really shame that there is still peoples out there who didn't know masterpiece stories like this

這正是我想要的?！白尭嗟娜酥肋@本書”，通過改編成其他媒體（動(dòng)畫，漫畫，戲?。┑姆绞?。我把這本書推薦給我的小圈子里的人們的時(shí)候，他們完全不買賬。但如果這本書改成了其他形式（比如網(wǎng)漫）事情就不一樣了。就像我之前堅(jiān)持的那樣，“去看看《單刷升級(jí)》吧”，人們一開始聽說這是個(gè)網(wǎng)文的時(shí)候都說“不看”，但改編成網(wǎng)漫之后他們就都吃了安利。真的很遺憾，還是有很多人并不知道像這本書一樣的杰作

?Alessan ?

Somewhat surprised Klein didn’t correct the clubs assumptions about the Fool, especially as it undermines his power by ‘proving’ he isn’t a god. Unless they assume the blood comes from one of his subordinates.

Overall I agree though not exposing The Fool’s pathway is probably a very good thing long term. The Tarot club is one thing but the rest of the world is much more dangerous. The Tarot members are also becoming increasingly powerful...

克萊恩竟然沒有糾正塔羅會(huì)成員關(guān)于愚者的假設(shè)，這讓我有點(diǎn)吃驚，特別是這種假設(shè)可是在通過“證明”他并不是神明的方式在詆毀他的能力。除非他們認(rèn)為這滴血是來自于他的某一位座下天使的。

總體來說，不暴露愚者的途徑是長期來看非常有利的一件事，我也同意。塔羅會(huì)是一方面，但世界上的其他地方正變得越來越危險(xiǎn)。塔羅會(huì)成員現(xiàn)在都在變得越來越強(qiáng)大……

（回復(fù)樓上） Meowhead ?

Cattleya assumed it was an angel in service to the Fool. I would think everybody else thinks the same, since nobody seemed to think of it as the Fool's own blood.

嘉德麗雅猜想那應(yīng)該是來自一位為愚者效力的天使。我會(huì)覺得其他人也是這樣想的，因?yàn)榭雌饋頉]人會(huì)覺得這滴血是愚者自己的。