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中保研：大眾帕薩特耐撞性測(cè)試

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Arsch Kopp
any chinese car maker is being laughed at for their poor build quality and low safety standards in europe...
but it is acceptable for an european car maker to downgrade their own products so much, just because the chinese customers do not seem to care about it?
This is hypocrisy... i don''t get it.

歐洲任何一家中國(guó)汽車制造商都會(huì)因制造質(zhì)量差、安全標(biāo)準(zhǔn)低的汽車而受到嘲笑。
但是，僅僅因?yàn)橹袊?guó)消費(fèi)者好像不在乎，歐洲汽車制造商就把自己的產(chǎn)品降級(jí)的這么厲害，這可以接受嗎？
這是虛偽……我不明白。

Music4TheSoul
They also downgrade in the European Market as well, compared to what is required for the the American Market.

與美國(guó)市場(chǎng)的要求相比，汽車制造商在歐洲市場(chǎng)的產(chǎn)品也會(huì)降級(jí)。

def abc
@Gary Bao I’m not very agree with your opinion. Your explanation may be the part of reasons( why Passat’s result is disappointed (in China) ), but it is totally not convinced enough. In fact, some products which came from other companies (like Toyota, Nissan, BMW etc ) also took this exam in 2019 and they got quite better result.
Some of these products are also from so-called joint venture: 1.Levin(雷凌), which is produced by GAC Toyota(廣汽豐田); 2.and Avalon(亞洲龍), which is produced by FAW Toyota(一汽豐田); 3.as well as BMW 3-series from BMW Brilliance (華晨寶馬) .These three products got “G(good, best result in C-IASI)” as the result in major tests.

我不太同意你的意見(jiàn)。你說(shuō)的可能是部分原因(為什么帕薩特表現(xiàn)(在中國(guó))令人失望)，但完全不能令人信服。事實(shí)上，一些來(lái)自其他公司的汽車（如豐田、日產(chǎn)、寶馬等）也在2019年參與了測(cè)試，并且取得了相當(dāng)好的成績(jī)。
有些車型也是來(lái)自所謂的合資品牌:1.雷凌，來(lái)自廣汽豐田2.亞洲龍，來(lái)自一汽豐田3.還有來(lái)自華晨寶馬的寶馬三系。這些汽車在中保研大部分測(cè)試中都拿到了G（優(yōu)秀，中保研安全指數(shù)最高級(jí)別)。

zhangyan liu
@Gary Bao Chinese people can not take important positions in the research department. In fact, Germans make the decision of what material to use. Passat is as expensive as Camry and Accord in China. It should be as safe as these cars. Usually, German engineers in Chinese VW think Chinese people love VW no matter the car is good or not.

中國(guó)人不能在研究部門擔(dān)任重要職務(wù)。事實(shí)上，德國(guó)人決定使用什么材料。帕薩特在中國(guó)的售價(jià)不亞于凱美瑞和雅閣。那就應(yīng)該和這些車一樣安全。通常，中國(guó)大眾的德國(guó)工程師認(rèn)為不管車好不好中國(guó)人就是喜歡大眾。

zuoshui zhou
@Gary Bao But actually Passat US version is cheaper than China version. It''s Chinese consumers not VW that pay for tax, just like US and Chinese ordinary people pay for the tariff war!! Toyota doesn''t ship downgraded cars in China, why VW dares? Just because it got heavily fined by US and EU authority due to dieselgate?

不過(guò)實(shí)際上帕薩特的美國(guó)版比中國(guó)版便宜。繳稅的是中國(guó)消費(fèi)者，而不是大眾，就像美國(guó)和中國(guó)普通民眾為關(guān)稅戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng)買單一樣!!豐田不敢往中國(guó)運(yùn)送降級(jí)汽車，為什么大眾敢?就因?yàn)椤安裼烷T”被美國(guó)和歐盟當(dāng)局處以重罰？

Digital Tog
VW should be shamed for this. this same car in the rest of the world would fare excellent but it’s obvious VW cost cutted for the chinese market

大眾應(yīng)該感到羞愧。同樣的車在世界其他地方表現(xiàn)得很好，但很明顯，在中國(guó)大眾削減了汽車成本。

Ryan N
I''ve noticed that ever manufacturer does this. Idk why

我注意到所有汽車制造商都是這么干的。我不知道為什么。

John Koops
Once more Volkswagen proves they don’t give a dime about passenger safety or the health of the public (Dieselgate) until being called out. A disgraceful corporation

大眾再次證明，在被召回之前，他們根本就不會(huì)關(guān)心乘客安全或公眾健康(柴油門)?？蓯u的公司

Arjan Singh
John Koops agreed, however this only applies to the Chinese car market as Volkswagens safety in other countries is very high, such as the USA and other European countries. Check out IIHS crashes of Volkswagen cars, based in the US. Unsure why they would cut corners just for the Chinese car market though..

同意，不過(guò)這只限于中國(guó)汽車市場(chǎng)，因?yàn)榇蟊娖囋谄渌麌?guó)家的安全性很高，比如美國(guó)和其他歐洲國(guó)家。看看大眾汽車在美國(guó)公路安全保險(xiǎn)協(xié)會(huì)的碰撞測(cè)試吧。不知道他們?yōu)槭裁磿?huì)在中國(guó)汽車市場(chǎng)偷工減料。

John Koops
Arjan Singh: It‘s the same in the US: check out the newly introduced small overlap: Volkswagen cars didn’t score good. They fixed it. One would assume that they really improved overall safety of their cars. But: then IIHS tested passenger side small overlap. Passat again didn’t score good. So all they did was to strengthen the driver side, because that was called out by IIHS. But saved the dollars to strengthen the passenger side. They build their cars around certifications and tests. And if they can’t meet the standards, they cheat.

在美國(guó)也是一樣:看看新的偏置碰撞試驗(yàn):大眾汽車得分不高。大眾汽車后來(lái)整改了。人們認(rèn)為大眾確實(shí)提高了汽車的整體安全性。但是：美國(guó)公路安全保險(xiǎn)協(xié)會(huì)進(jìn)行了乘客側(cè)的25%偏置碰撞試驗(yàn)。帕薩特又一次得分不高。其實(shí)他們只加強(qiáng)駕駛員側(cè)的強(qiáng)度，因?yàn)檫@是美國(guó)公路安全保險(xiǎn)協(xié)會(huì)要求的。結(jié)果卻把增加乘客側(cè)強(qiáng)度的錢省下了。大眾是根據(jù)認(rèn)證和測(cè)試制造汽車的。如果不符合標(biāo)準(zhǔn)，他們就會(huì)作弊。

rt re
@Music4TheSoul That is not true, Camry''s ciasi test was conducted in early 2018.

你說(shuō)的不對(duì)。2018年年初中保研就對(duì)凱美瑞做過(guò)測(cè)試了。

Music4TheSoul
@rt re I doubt it.

我對(duì)此表示懷疑。

rt re
@Music4TheSoul Your doubt has no effect on the history made in early 2018.
It is your problem not able to find the test result while others can, here it the lix:
http://ciasi.org.cn/home/web_public/details/id/15.html
4 local manufactured toyota vehicles have been tested by ciasi, and all of them passed perfectly.

找不到測(cè)試結(jié)果就是你的問(wèn)題了，其他人怎么找得到，鏈接給你:
中保研測(cè)試了4輛當(dāng)?shù)厣a(chǎn)的豐田汽車，結(jié)果全部通過(guò)測(cè)試。

Camhed Mr_
@Ryan N C-IASI only came out in 2018. That''s right. Before 2018, there''s only one organization that assesses car safety in China, and none was non profitable.

中保研是2018年才成立的公司。說(shuō)得對(duì)。2018年之前，中國(guó)只有一家評(píng)估汽車安全的機(jī)構(gòu)，而且是非盈利的。

Vyrymian GD
I think EuroNCAP LatinNCAP and GlobalNCAP should do all these tests.

我認(rèn)為歐盟新車安全評(píng)定協(xié)會(huì)、南美洲的新車安全測(cè)試機(jī)構(gòu)和全球新車安全評(píng)定協(xié)會(huì)都該做這些測(cè)試。

mrrokoso
A lot of asian countries and american countries do not require manufacturers to use certain safety equipment. Manufacturers sell the cars cheaper so they can get more sales.

許多亞洲國(guó)家和美洲國(guó)家不要求制造商使用某些安全設(shè)備。制造商以更低的價(jià)格出售汽車，以便獲得更多的銷量。

Matias Gonzalez
Well, in Argentina an average car must have 2 front airbag as a standard equipment

嗯，在阿根廷，一輛普通的汽車必須配備兩個(gè)前氣囊。

deloreanman14
Last time I saw a new car from a major manufacturer fail this badly in the US, Bill Clinton was still president.

上次我看到美國(guó)一家主要汽車制造商的新車出現(xiàn)如此嚴(yán)重的測(cè)試結(jié)果時(shí)，比爾·克林頓還是總統(tǒng)。

Whatwould Bdo
Indeed, and it was the Nissan Maxima from the late 1990s tested by IIHS, which was broadcast by Dateline nationwide. The exposure tanked the sales of Maxima, and all car brands learned a lesson going forward and really began to focus on safety in earnest. I think VW really did done fucked up real bad right here.

對(duì)，是日產(chǎn)的西瑪，20世紀(jì)90年代末美國(guó)公路安全保險(xiǎn)協(xié)會(huì)做的測(cè)試，NBC《日界線》廣播的消息。測(cè)試結(jié)果曝光后嚴(yán)重影響了西瑪?shù)匿N售，所有的汽車品牌都吸取了教訓(xùn)，開(kāi)始認(rèn)真關(guān)注安全問(wèn)題。我認(rèn)為大眾確實(shí)做得很糟糕。

Shuang Shuang
The price of this junk is more than $ 40,000, long live in Germany.

這破幾把玩意要4萬(wàn)美元，德國(guó)萬(wàn)歲。

zero knd
The most frightened thing is Passat is sales champion in the mid-range car market in China.Automobile manufacturer don''t care about the lives of ordinary people, after all, they meet the basic requirements of regulations.

最讓人害怕的是，帕薩特是中國(guó)中檔汽車市場(chǎng)的銷售冠軍。汽車制造商不關(guān)心普通人的生活，畢竟這些車符合法規(guī)的基本要求。

Csic Tim
It''s all government''s fault. Chinese people want cheap named brand cars. However, the government collect ridiculous tax for everything. So manufacturer make them affordable yet unreliable. Vicious circle.

都是政府的錯(cuò)。中國(guó)人想買便宜的名牌汽車。然而，政府征收亂七八糟的稅。因此，制造商只能造中國(guó)人買得起的車，質(zhì)量不可靠的車。惡性循環(huán)。

Miitre Koistinen
Thats not an excuse, we have crazy tax in Finland aswell, for example cheapest new lamborghini huracan in united states cost 178k in america and cheapest lamborghini here in Finland cost 338k because of tax. Yet we still have safe cars.

這不是借口，芬蘭的稅也很瘋狂，比如美國(guó)最便宜的蘭博基尼颶風(fēng)要17.8萬(wàn)美元，因?yàn)槎愂?，芬蘭最便宜的蘭博基尼颶風(fēng)33.8萬(wàn)美元。不過(guò)我們的車仍然很安全。

Csic Tim
@Miitre Koistinen I agree there is no excuse for safety, but in China is more like a must to foreign auto makers. Tax is one problems. The other reason is Chinese car companies make car joint ventures with foreign manufacturers. They easily acquire technology, which has led many Chinese manufacturers to build their own brands and use cheaper materials to build knockoffs. So many people tend to buy those cars because they are much more cheaper and offen fully loaded compare to the original. A Chinese coppycat CR-V hover H6 cost $16k, a real CR-V cost $23k. Chinese people like cheap yet loaded car. Therefore, how to complete with Chinese brand and meet Chinese need? Cut off things that customer can''t see. Safety.

確實(shí)不是借口，但是對(duì)于外國(guó)汽車制造商來(lái)說(shuō)，在中國(guó)必須繳稅。稅收是一個(gè)問(wèn)題。另一個(gè)原因是，中國(guó)汽車企業(yè)與外國(guó)車企成立合資企業(yè)。中國(guó)車企很容易獲得技術(shù)，最后許多中國(guó)制造商建立自己的品牌，并使用更便宜的材料山寨名牌車。很多中國(guó)人都會(huì)買山寨車，因?yàn)楸阋?，而且裝的還多。本田CR-V山寨版長(zhǎng)城H6售價(jià)1.6萬(wàn)美元，而真正的CR-V售價(jià)2.3萬(wàn)美元。中國(guó)人喜歡便宜而實(shí)用的汽車。因此，怎么與中國(guó)品牌車企競(jìng)爭(zhēng)，怎么滿足中國(guó)需求?剪掉顧客看不到的東西。安全。