【1269章（倒吊人-3章?）“愿望”之力】——本章說

【簡單來說，“奇跡師”必須先搜集和滿足各種各樣的愿望，然后才有可能在戰(zhàn)斗時(shí)通過向自己許愿的方式將相應(yīng)的情況變?yōu)楝F(xiàn)實(shí)，而且，最開始的時(shí)候，克萊恩能實(shí)現(xiàn)的愿望都很小，必須一步步積累，才能創(chuàng)造“奇跡”，不能想怎么來就怎么來?！?/p>

Hulyo_july

Wow he would really become a God at this rate. Wish granting I'd like to see how he can satisfy the wish of common people.

哇哦按照這個(gè)速度他真的能成神。實(shí)現(xiàn)愿望，我挺想看看他要怎么實(shí)現(xiàn)普通人的愿望。

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Surely_Panda

basically he need to grind for mats/xp/rep first before getting his hands on the orange stuff.

基本上就是想要拿橙裝就得先肝材料/經(jīng)驗(yàn)/聲望對吧。

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MightBeGay

good pun

這雙關(guān)不錯(cuò)

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RenniOG

*sniff sniff* is this a new persona I smell? Houdini Nostradamus the wish granter!

*嗅嗅*我是不是聞到了一個(gè)新身份來臨的氣息？難道是胡迪尼·諾查丹瑪斯，實(shí)現(xiàn)愿望之人！

【分別來自哈利·胡迪尼和諾查丹瑪斯，

哈利·胡迪尼，本名艾瑞其·懷茲，出生時(shí)名字的匈牙利語拼法為埃里克·懷什。?被稱為史上最偉大魔術(shù)師、脫逃術(shù)師及特技表演者；

諾查丹瑪斯，原名米歇爾·德·諾特雷達(dá)姆，法國籍猶太裔預(yù)言家，精通希伯來文和希臘文，留下以四行體詩寫成的預(yù)言集《百詩集》一部。有研究者從這些短詩中“看到”對不少歷史事件及重要發(fā)明的預(yù)言。】

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【“嗯，如果想像烏黯魔狼科塔爾那樣以許愿的方式轉(zhuǎn)移位置，那我必須預(yù)先滿足過許多類似的，來自他人的，從簡單到困難的愿望……這方面倒是有取巧的辦法，我可以利用‘蠕動的饑餓’和‘星之杖’來滿足相應(yīng)的愿望，無需從最簡單的開始……】

Dark_Magus

Anyone get this part?

有人看懂了這部分嗎？

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（回復(fù)樓上）Markarev

Teleport/travel ability both items has.

這兩個(gè)道具都有傳送/旅行能力。

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（回復(fù)一樓）thedeadtellstories

creeping hunger and staff of stars have powers to help him granting something more difficult and complex?

蠕動的饑餓和星之杖都有能幫助他實(shí)現(xiàn)更困難復(fù)雜的愿望的能力？

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（回復(fù)一樓）Anna_94

Example of it. If someone wish to go somewhere klein can grant that person wish with the staff.

舉個(gè)例子。如果有人的愿望是想要去某個(gè)地方，克萊恩可以用這根杖實(shí)現(xiàn)他的愿望。

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（回復(fù)一樓）Observer98

Basically he doesn't have to specifically use the power of "Wishes" in order to grant someone's wish. He can just use an external item like the staff to perform the teleport and it would still count to increasing his wishing juice. This way he can skip straight to higher level teleport related wishes easily. It really sounds like the power of a Miracle Invoker is more dependent on what people think the Angel is capable of rather than any objective measure of their abilities.

基本上他并不需要特地使用“愿望”之力去實(shí)現(xiàn)別人的愿望。他完全可以直接用就像星之杖這樣的道具來實(shí)現(xiàn)傳送能力，而且這也依然算在他積攢的愿望之力里。這樣一來他就可以直接輕松實(shí)現(xiàn)任何和高層次傳送能力有關(guān)的愿望了?，F(xiàn)在聽起來奇跡師的能力更多是有關(guān)于人們認(rèn)為天使能做到的事情，而不是他們自身擁有的各種能力。

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（回復(fù)一樓）RenniOG

You can grant wishes using any means possible, like summoning a loved one from the historical void for example, you don't necessarily have to use the wish granting powers of the miracle invoker, which to build up start trivial, like summoning a dove from a hat or something like that. This can make the wish granting powers build up much faster.

你可以用任何可能的手段來實(shí)現(xiàn)愿望，比如從歷史孔隙中召喚出某人的所愛之人，所以不一定要使用奇跡師的愿望之力，這種力量還得一點(diǎn)點(diǎn)積累，比如從帽子里召喚出一只鴿子或者什么類似的效果。這應(yīng)該能讓許愿之力累積得快很多。

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Mr_Scary_Cat

Without the corresponding beyonder powers, he might be limited to granting wishes by physically moving an object from point A to point B. Only when he has granted a wish like that can he grant a wish that teleports an object from point A to point B. I'm assuming that it's like a snowball effect where it gets bigger and bigger the more wishes he grants. But by using creeping hunger and the staff of stars, he can already grant big wishes, effectively allowing him to grant even bigger wishes because of it.

如果沒有與之相應(yīng)的非凡能力，他可能就只能通過把某個(gè)物體從A點(diǎn)移動到B點(diǎn)來實(shí)現(xiàn)愿望了。只有他實(shí)現(xiàn)了一個(gè)類似這樣的愿望之后，他才能實(shí)現(xiàn)一個(gè)把物體從A點(diǎn)傳送到B點(diǎn)的愿望。我猜這應(yīng)該像是滾雪球，他實(shí)現(xiàn)的愿望越多，效果就越來越大。但通過使用蠕動的饑餓和星之杖，他就已經(jīng)能實(shí)現(xiàn)一些比較大的愿望了，這能有效地讓他去實(shí)現(xiàn)更大的愿望。

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【“說起來，‘愿望’能力有點(diǎn)像利用錨，屬于‘集眾’類型，既然信眾們對神靈的認(rèn)知可以有效影響到神靈，成為某種程度的‘定位’，幫助祂們對抗非凡特性內(nèi)的原初精神烙印，那不同靈性生物的相似愿望確實(shí)可以幫助我創(chuàng)造‘奇跡’……】

Skyfiend13

Back to grinding, boy

又回到肝肝肝的路上了啊孩砸

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Totem

is this is why at the beginning goddess provided Klein's teacher with spare change after he asked (that lost wallet case)?

這就是一開始女神在克萊恩的老師祈求了之后，給了他一個(gè)裝著零錢的錢夾（那個(gè)丟失的錢夾）的原因？

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【在剛才的審視中，他發(fā)現(xiàn)自己剛服食完魔藥就消化了大半，畢竟他已經(jīng)屢次創(chuàng)造“奇跡”，就連“復(fù)活”都達(dá)到了三次。】

Hulyo_july

There we go again, the legendary advance acting since chapter 1.

又來了，從第1章就開始的傳奇般的晉升扮演。

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（回復(fù)樓上）Bombazuka

I?think?scholar of?yore?was?faster?like?80%

我覺得古代學(xué)者應(yīng)該比這個(gè)快，直接有大概80%

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Braccer1

its like he was born for this!

感覺他天生就該是這條途徑的！

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Shtriya

fate at its work again???????

命運(yùn)再次起效了……

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BreakBreakBreak

He court death every day but just wasted 3 lives,what a miracle!

他每天都在作死卻只浪費(fèi)了3條命，真是個(gè)奇跡！

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ifuknow_u_know

other beyonders: it takes at least 5 years to digest a high sequence potion klein:????????

其他非凡這：我花了五年才消化了一個(gè)高序列魔藥

克萊恩：????????

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RenniOG

KLEIN IS A MENACE TO ANGELS AND SAINTS AROUND THE WORLD????????????????????????????????????????????

克萊恩會是全世界所有天使和圣徒的威脅……

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【當(dāng)然，克萊恩認(rèn)為這非常取巧，因?yàn)樗軇?chuàng)造“奇跡”，提前扮演，更多是依賴“源堡”。】

idoking12

could the things he did in the sefirah such as giving the members a chance to advance be called as granting wishes?

他在源堡里做的事情也能被算作是實(shí)現(xiàn)愿望嗎？比如給成員們制造晉升機(jī)會之類的？

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（回復(fù)樓上）Mr_Scary_Cat

If they verbalized their wishes like that, possibly.

如果他們口頭上提出了這樣的愿望，也許有可能。

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（回復(fù)一樓）DannyPhantoms

He did respond to them and granted them items through bestowal rituals

他的確回應(yīng)了他們，然后通過賜予儀式把相關(guān)物品給了他們

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bukvyrm

coincidentally? like how things written by 0-08 are "coincidental"?

取巧？比如像0-08寫的那些東西算“取巧”嗎？

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【“簡直就像是被人安排好的一樣……”克萊恩暗嘆了一句，心中不覺輕松，反而愈發(fā)凝重和戒備?！?/p>

handwritten

Meanwhile, Adam smiles in the distance feeling proud while stalking as usual.

與此同時(shí)，亞當(dāng)在遠(yuǎn)處一邊一如既往地窺探著，一邊露出了自豪的微笑

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（回復(fù)樓上）SendNuds

nah, this is beyond Adam

不，這個(gè)超過了亞當(dāng)?shù)哪芰Ψ秶?/p>

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（回復(fù)樓上）Ghizghuth

Not anymore, the guy's a God.

現(xiàn)在他有這個(gè)能力了，他已經(jīng)是個(gè)神了。

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（回復(fù)樓上）SendNuds

nah, that's still above Adam

不，這個(gè)依然是超過亞當(dāng)能力范圍的。

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Skyfiend13

Love that cuttlefish????gives us a smart MC

烏賊我愛了愛了~他給了我們一位聰明智慧的主角

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【至于是誰安排的，他有一個(gè)懷疑的對象：】

kayden1611

could it be... the author?!

會不會是……作者？！

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【遠(yuǎn)古太陽神口中的“詭秘”，疑似“福生玄黃天尊”的那位存在?！?/p>

RenniOG

Lord of the mysteries lol,

詭秘之主233333

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【“甚至一點(diǎn)痕跡都沒有，除了必然會到來的原初精神烙印污染，嗯，應(yīng)該是原初遺留在非凡特性內(nèi)的精神烙印……難道‘福生玄黃天尊’在安排好一切后已經(jīng)死透了，沒有能力再影響我，從我體內(nèi)復(fù)活？如果真是這樣，那我必須得好好感謝祂！”克萊恩自我調(diào)侃了兩句，帶著防備和疑惑站了起來。】

Kioga

I find it hard, considering that the Sefirah Castle pathways are all undying cockroaches

我感覺這不太可能，特別是源堡途徑基本都是打不死的小強(qiáng)

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【這是第一紀(jì)之前那座舊日都市尚未遭遇災(zāi)難時(shí)的樣子，這是克萊恩曾經(jīng)生活過的地方?！?/p>

Mr_Scary_Cat

stacked cities of old

堆積如山的古老城市

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【“果然，我能初步使用‘源堡’的力量了……靠著這一點(diǎn)，如果我在灰霧之上，已接近天使之王層次，而且，展現(xiàn)的權(quán)柄不僅僅是‘奇跡’，還包含部分‘旅法師’和部分‘命運(yùn)木馬’……】

Hulyo_july

Wow Sefira castle pathway is indeed one of the best pathway group. Very flexible and only 3 pathways in the group. Only 3 enemies to look out for.

哇哦，源堡途徑的確是最棒的互換組之一。非常靈活，而且互換組里只有3條途徑。也就是只有3個(gè)需要注意的敵人。

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（回復(fù)樓上）Zarivon

I wonder if this means Mr. Door will definitely be released to be hunted by Klein for his characteristic in the future.

不知道這是不是意味著門先生絕對會被放出來，然后在未來被克萊恩為了拿非凡特性給狩獵了。

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（回復(fù)一樓）Anna_94

can you imagine the sefirah castle of Sun Group. Holy Sht that group have 5 pathway.

你能想象太陽互換組的源堡得是啥樣嗎。我去，他們可是整整5條途徑。

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（回復(fù)樓上）Mr_Scary_Cat

Sea of Chaos group is terrifying. Omniscient with the Reader and Spectator pathways Omnipotent with Tyrant (raw power), Sun (purification), and Hanged Man (power copying) Reader, Spectator, and Hanged Man pathways all have respective beyonder ability copying as well. Reader with direct copy similar to a Scribe, Spectator can probably "envision" a beyonder ability, and Hanged Man can graze souls with abilities. Skeri skeri

混沌?；Q組很恐怖的。全知是閱讀者和觀眾途徑，全能是暴君（原始能力），太陽（凈化），還有倒吊人（復(fù)制能力）。閱讀者，觀眾，還有倒吊人途徑都有各自能被復(fù)制的非凡能力。閱讀者的直接復(fù)制能力和記錄官很像，觀眾也許也可以“構(gòu)思”一個(gè)非凡能力，然后倒吊人可以放牧擁有不同力量的靈魂。

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（回復(fù)樓上）Hulyo_july

Scary indeed but it also has the most terrifying enemies to look out for, Adam, true creator, leodero, herabergen, aucuses... Good luck lol all enemies at seq 0.

的確很恐怖，但他們需要提防的敵人也是最恐怖的類型，亞當(dāng)，真實(shí)造物主，列奧德羅，赫拉伯根，奧庫塞斯……祝你好運(yùn)23333所有序列0的敵人們。

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（回復(fù)四樓）Shtriya

acc to Emperor discription Reader pathway is omniscient pat and Secret suppliant can be Omnipotent part of Phrase Omniscient and Omnipotent . and Tyrant pathway can be Omnipotent in air , land and water . but he also things that the Sun pathway as foundation , that accommodates Omnipotent and Omniscient .

根據(jù)皇帝的描述，閱讀者途徑是全知，秘祈人可以算是全能，兩者都是全知全能的一部分。而暴君途徑可以算是海陸空全能。但他同樣說了太陽途徑是基底，是融合全知全能的基礎(chǔ)。

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（回復(fù)四樓）Zeroinfinit

Not so sure, like a seer can do whatever he wants at later stages (since he can summon other high level beings from other pathways to figth for him and will probably be able to grant whatever wish he desire), a marauder can literally "hack" the world (which i think that can easily nullify the parts of omniscience and maybe part of omnipotence)... im not sure what can an Apprentice pathway do in the later stages, but i can more or less deduce that must be something like the omnipotence of the hanged man pathway or somekind of ability to "cancel" the powers of other pathway... {Though i remember reading somewhere that the author said that he intended to do the all pathways equally powerful so i guess that the debate is quite pointless}

這不是很確定，就像是一個(gè)占卜家在后期幾乎能實(shí)現(xiàn)任何他想做的事情（因?yàn)樗梢哉賳酒渌緩降母唠A存在來幫他戰(zhàn)斗，而且也有可能借助他們來實(shí)現(xiàn)任何他想實(shí)現(xiàn)的愿望），一個(gè)偷盜者完全可以“黑”掉整個(gè)世界（我覺得這完全可以讓全知的部分無效化，也許全能的部分也行……）我不是很確定學(xué)徒途徑后期能做到什么程度，但我可以或多或少地推斷出，這肯定和倒吊人途徑的全能或者某種類似的能力有關(guān)，可以“取消”掉其他途徑的能力……（不過根據(jù)我印象里讀到的部分，之前作者好像說過他想要讓每個(gè)途徑的力量強(qiáng)得平衡一點(diǎn)，所以我猜這種想法也有可能毫無根據(jù)）

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ThisDaddy

wut???

啥？？？

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（回復(fù)樓上）Mr_Scary_Cat

Planeswalker is Apprentice Seq. 3 while Trojan Horse of Destiny is Error Seq. 3. Klein's ability to use Sefirah Castle to grasp the corresponding authorities of neighboring pathways has been shown all the way back to when he made the Fate-Siphon Charm using Amon's worms of time.

旅法師是學(xué)徒途徑的序列3，而命運(yùn)木馬是錯(cuò)誤的序列3?？巳R恩使用源堡獲取相應(yīng)臨近途徑的全能的技巧早在他利用阿蒙的時(shí)之蟲制作竊運(yùn)者符咒的時(shí)候就體現(xiàn)過了。

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（回復(fù)樓上）tomi97origin

it's not sequence 3, but sequence 2. At least Staff of Stars is from planes walker. And if Planeswalker is sequence 2 than Trojan horse of destiny is probably as well

那不是序列3，是序列2。至少星之杖就是來自一個(gè)旅法師的。而且如果旅法師是序列2，那命運(yùn)木馬就應(yīng)該也是

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RenniOG

Trojan horse of destiny is marauder sequence 2?

命運(yùn)木馬是偷盜者序列2？

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【他最終還是沒有釋放里面的人，因?yàn)檫@必然會被阿蒙利用。】

Bubba970

Releasing people right before the Apocalypse would be a dick move anyway.

不管如何，在世界末日之前把這些人放出來都挺坑的。

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（回復(fù)樓上）Tukang_Sampah

Hahaha

哈哈哈

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（回復(fù)一樓）Braccer1

funny as hell though... but do they need to reanimate a dead person?

雖然很有意思……但他們真的需要靠一個(gè)死人才能復(fù)活嗎？

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（回復(fù)一樓）RenniOG

better than a great old one getting a hold of sefirah and doing whatever they want. Klein should be able to use the convergence of sefirah to guide them in certain aspects so they aren't totally helpless, but now is a terrible time since well... Amon

比一個(gè)舊日控制了源質(zhì)之后為所欲為要強(qiáng)得多吧。克萊恩應(yīng)該能利用源質(zhì)的融合效果指引他們，起碼不會走到完全無可奈何的地步，但現(xiàn)在時(shí)機(jī)也很糟糕，因?yàn)椤拧⒚伞?/p>

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Dark_Magus

I don’t get it... how could Amon use them from the outside world?

我不理解……阿蒙在外界能怎么利用他們？

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（回復(fù)樓上）DannyPhantoms

To get information about before the first epoch and then Klein wouldn’t be safe in the fog of history

他也許想要打探一些第一紀(jì)之前的消息，然后克萊恩就算躲在歷史迷霧中都不安全了

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Shtriya

so klein will release them after dealting with his enemy and will let them decide their pathways .

所以克萊恩會在搞定他的敵人之后把他們放出來，然后讓他們自己決定他們的途徑咯。

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【他記得自己有一些記憶被封印，遂從雜物堆里召喚來了那張紙?！?/p>

Shtriya

finally if we can see that part of him returning Antigonous family book or whatever?***** he did . then it will be great relief .

終于，如果我們能看到他把安提哥努斯家族筆記本還回去或者什么其他他干過的事情的話就好了。那可是大松了一口氣。

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【展開一看，克萊恩目光微凝，嘴唇翕動，低聲自語了起來：“舊日、外神、星空、造物主、序列之上……原來是這樣……”】

Shtriya

oh **** , i forgot about these memories of his . I wish if i could forgot somethings that only i know not other readers .

哦去，我忘了他這些記憶是什么了。希望我能忘記那些只有我知道而其他讀者不知道的東西……

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（回復(fù)樓上）Ghizghuth

Being a spectator in real life must be tough... Everyone will constantly pester to erase some memories, like sad events, or that movie they just watched and they want to watch it for the first time again x)

在現(xiàn)實(shí)世界要做個(gè)觀眾一定很難……每個(gè)人都會有一些一直盤旋在腦海里卻希望抹去的記憶，比如悲傷的事情，或者那些他們剛剛看過但卻希望能重新當(dāng)作第一次看的電影x)

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（回復(fù)樓上）Shtriya

yeah , but i will not tell anyone that im spectator . Even if i did . just erase that memory .

對，但我不會告訴其他人我是個(gè)觀眾。即使我這么說了。只要抹消記憶就好。

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（回復(fù)二樓）RenniOG

it's a trait of a spectator that no one knows you are a spectator lol

觀眾的特點(diǎn)就是沒人知道你是觀眾2333

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【從倫納德、“正義”小姐提供的消息看，魯恩獲得了最終的勝利，“戰(zhàn)神”很有可能已經(jīng)隕落……也就是說，女神成功了，但不知道祂距離序列之上的‘舊日’還差什么條件……等下召喚阿羅德斯詢問詢問各方面的具體情況，把握住當(dāng)前的局勢……想到這里，克萊恩回憶起了過去的種種細(xì)節(jié)，將許多事情串連在了一起：】

idoking12

can we call the goddess a king of gods? or more accurately queen of gods now?

我們現(xiàn)在能管女神叫眾神之王嗎？或者更確切一點(diǎn)的，眾神女王？

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（回復(fù)樓上）Vessel_Scholar

A "New" One

是“新”王

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kplorm

He'll further digest the miracle invoker portion!????????

他能消化更多的奇跡師魔藥啦！

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（回復(fù)樓上）Ghizghuth

Klein: "What wish do you have?" Arrodes: "Could you ask me something?"

克萊恩：“你有什么愿望嗎？”阿羅德斯：“您能問我一些問題嗎？”

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bukvyrm

Empress. we'll call her Empress Evernight.

女皇。我們應(yīng)該叫她黑夜女皇。

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【“那位不知道究竟是誰的‘大地母神’能成功扮演巨人王后歐彌貝拉幾千年而未被識破，沒有‘隱秘’的幫助是絕對不可能的……嘶，女神從第三紀(jì)，甚至第二紀(jì)尾聲就在謀劃相應(yīng)的事情了？】

Shtriya

damn , as expected he is always fast to think . i think goddess biggest mistake is this guy . man sure is deserve to be MC .

md，一如既往，他思考的速度還是這么快。我感覺女神犯下最大的錯(cuò)誤就是這個(gè)家伙。天啊，真的配做主角的地步。

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（回復(fù)樓上）Bone_God

wut?

哈？

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【“感覺，感覺比阿蒙還恐怖……】

Hulyo_july

Without her plotting around in the corner ASG wouldn't be successfully eliminated, her skills is no joke bro seriously.. She's the main reason why Amon's dad died course she terrifying..

如果沒有她在暗地里搞的那些陰謀，遠(yuǎn)太不會就這么成功消滅的，哥們我可是認(rèn)真的，她的技術(shù)可不是開玩笑的……她就是阿蒙的父親死亡的主因，因?yàn)樗褪沁@么恐怖……

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（回復(fù)樓上）Dex2

ASG planned his own death and asked Evernight to help him accomplish it. It was in the previous chapters when Klein spoke with Sasrir. All that "plotting" was a facade she put up but in the end, she was only helping ASG accomplish his own plan.

遠(yuǎn)太的死亡是他自己謀劃的，而且他請求了黑夜幫他實(shí)現(xiàn)?？巳R恩在前面的章節(jié)里已經(jīng)和薩斯利爾確認(rèn)過了。那些“陰謀”都是她裝出來的，最后她只是幫助了遠(yuǎn)太實(shí)現(xiàn)了他自己的計(jì)劃而已。

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（回復(fù)樓上）Zarivon

Yeah Evernight wasn't one of the 3 that betrayed ASG.

是啊黑夜并不在三個(gè)背叛了遠(yuǎn)太的人之中。

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（回復(fù)二樓）Hulyo_july

You're right, Yeh I forgot about that part???, anyways the goddess is very terrifying is what I'd like to say.

你說得對，我把那塊劇情忘了，無論如何，我只是想說女神很恐怖

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（回復(fù)一樓）Shtriya

who knows even she was played by ASG in killing him . and his only error was his angels .

誰知道在刺殺他這件事情上她是不是也被遠(yuǎn)太耍了呢。而且他唯一的錯(cuò)誤就是他的那些天使們。

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Shtriya

I think most terrifying one is Adam , here . and now he has become god . he is biggest trouble now . dont bring goddess in here as her authority is concealment . Adam dude has made every situation go in his own favour thats what u call true badass . i have a question if True creator is born bcoz of extreme emotions , which make sense of him being mad . afterall human nature . Then where is ASG conciousness is ? as he was just transferring it like some candy . is it in slumber and adam wants to awaken it ?

我覺得最恐怖的還是亞當(dāng)。然后現(xiàn)在他還成神了。他現(xiàn)在才是最大的問題。不用提女神，因?yàn)樗臋?quán)柄是隱秘。亞當(dāng)每次都能把局勢引導(dǎo)到他個(gè)人想要的效果，這也是大家說他吊的原因。我有個(gè)問題，如果真實(shí)造物主是在極端情緒中誕生的，那他發(fā)瘋也能說得通。畢竟這是人類的天性。那遠(yuǎn)太的意識到底在哪里呢？他之前各種轉(zhuǎn)移，就好像那是什么糖果一樣。所以他的意識其實(shí)一直都在沉睡，亞當(dāng)之前是想要喚醒他嗎？

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faimherb

well because.. you just expect Amon to be everywhere, scheming and plotting, whereas the Goddess schemes and plots in the concealed shadows

嗯因?yàn)椤阌X得阿蒙就是哪里都有他，各種搞事和策劃陰謀，而女神的陰謀和后手都埋在隱秘的陰影之下

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【“嗯，‘隱秘’僅能隱藏各方面的痕跡，誤導(dǎo)相應(yīng)的窺探和占卜，沒法讓一個(gè)人做出偽裝，‘大地母神’能假扮歐彌貝拉而沒被‘戰(zhàn)神’懷疑，可能還有別的因素……比如，某位存在幫祂竊取到了巨人王后的命運(yùn)？當(dāng)時(shí)那個(gè)年代，掌握類似權(quán)柄的，有資格參與這件事情的只有一位，遠(yuǎn)古太陽神，第二代造物主，阿蒙和亞當(dāng)?shù)母赣H……】

Anna_94

Man can you imagine your own step mom stab you from the back. this is not like the Japanese cartoon that i watch

天啊，你們能想象你們的繼母突然從背后捅你一刀嗎。這可和我看的日本動畫完全不一樣啊

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（回復(fù)樓上）Bone_God

What stepmom? They literally murdered his mother and had Lilith wear her like a skin suit

什么繼母？他們可是的的確確殺了他的母親，然后讓莉莉絲穿上了她的畫皮啊

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Shtriya

ASG and Evernight are sure pro here . But ASG is biggest pro here . dont try to lecture me bcoz i know something that u ppl dont know , that i wish that i shoudnt have known about it .

遠(yuǎn)太和黑夜的確是專業(yè)陰謀家。但遠(yuǎn)太才是真正的陰謀之王。不要試圖跟我辯，因?yàn)槲抑滥銈儾恢赖囊恍〇|西，但我希望我之前從來沒有看到過。

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【“換句話說就是，女神之前種種表演的真正目的不是在‘死神’途徑‘唯一性’上挖坑，而是讓其余神靈將關(guān)注點(diǎn)放在這件事情上，忽略掉‘大地母神’有問題的可能……】

Gengar_The_Fool

Such long . . . Planning . . . and long . . . execution . . .????Believe in Deity Might, not Their Mercy????????Praise The Lady????

下了這么久……的一盤大棋……還有跨度這么長……的執(zhí)行……相信神的威能，不要相信他們的仁慈……贊美女神

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【“真是可怕啊……”】

Observer98

It's schemes and betrayal all the way down...

一路走來，全是陰謀與背叛……

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idoking12

makes me think about how concealment works and it's requirements, does it work kinda like wishes? - you need to fullfil many smaller criteria in order for the main objective to be concealed? like making everyone focus their attention on something without realizing afterwards that the true objective had already been covered up

讓我想到了隱秘的效果和需求條件，這是不是和愿望之力有點(diǎn)像啊？——你必須要積累許多小的效果才能讓你的主要目標(biāo)被隱秘？就像是把每個(gè)人的注意力都吸引在某件事情上，但卻沒有意識到主要的目標(biāo)已經(jīng)被掩蓋了

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Shtriya

damn the type of ppl i hate most are same like Evernight . But dont know i have this feeling there is someone who is more scheming or atleast at her level . could it be Adam or Emperor roselle ?

md，我最討厭的人就是黑夜這個(gè)類型的。但我不知道為什么我有這種感覺，我總感覺有另外一個(gè)人也在背后搞事，而且至少是和她一個(gè)層次的。有可能是亞當(dāng)或者羅塞爾大帝？

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Solterage

And Adam predicted all of this. He is still the ultimate winner lol.

而且亞當(dāng)已經(jīng)預(yù)測到了所有這一切。他依然是最后的贏家2333

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【克萊恩由衷地發(fā)出嘆息，覺得比起女神來，亞當(dāng)和阿蒙兩兄弟在可怕程度上要差一個(gè)層次?！?/p>

Hulyo_july

Wasn't her honorific title Goddess of Horror?

她的尊名不就是恐懼女皇嗎？

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（回復(fù)樓上）RenniOG

empress of horror and misfortune

厄難與恐懼的女皇

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Observer98

You better keep your head up Klein.

你最好給我挺胸抬頭起來克萊恩。

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Anna_94

Your mom is scary dude.

老哥，你麻麻是真的很恐怖

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Shtriya

she goddes of horroe afterall . but even this doesnt make me feel that she is more terrifying than ASG family . Those dudes are more scary .

她畢竟是恐懼女神。但即使這樣我也還是覺得她不如遠(yuǎn)太家族更恐怖。那些人更嚇人。

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【“永遠(yuǎn)記住自己是他，而不是祂?！薄?/p>

Tukang_Sampah

always maintain his humanity???

永遠(yuǎn)保持著他的人性，贊

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Redwinter

The Lord of the Lampooning. Celestial worthy of the washroom. So many troll titles lol

吐槽之主。盥洗室天尊。你可有太多搞笑頭銜了23333

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Hulyo_july

To always remember: by klien lampoonety I a human, not a God.. Amen brother??

請永遠(yuǎn)記?。嚎巳R恩這是在自嘲式地告誡自己，我是個(gè)人類，不是神明……阿門，兄弟……

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（回復(fù)樓上）TrTryu

Amon Brother.

你是想說阿蒙兄弟吧。

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（回復(fù)一樓）Bombazuka

I'm Groot

我是格魯特

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Hastev

Only those who read this novel will understand this line

只有看過這本書的才能看懂這句話啥意思

Anna_94

why i hear MJ He He thing???

為啥我感覺耳邊傳來了MJ的he he 23333

【MJ的知名梗，他經(jīng)常使用這個(gè)獨(dú)特的唱腔作為和聲，但單獨(dú)截出來聽會很好笑，ytb上有大量he he?相關(guān)的搞笑視頻】

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LazyOracle

Respect

瑞斯拜

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Jack_N_Mikhail

but I'm a HE / ORE-SAMA

但我是他?/?本大爺

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Gengar_The_Fool

ANCHOR!!!????We are guardians, but also a bunch of miserable wretches that are constantly fighting against threats and madness???

錨?。?！我們是守護(hù)者，但也是一群時(shí)刻對抗著瘋狂的可憐蟲

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TimmyNC11

El hee hee?

誒嘿嘿？

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RenniOG

That's a great line

這句不錯(cuò)

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DJ_Yasaqua

Humanity?????

這就是人性

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Shtriya

One more he proved he desrve his tittle as Mc .

他再次證明了他配得上做主角。

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【1269章（倒吊人-3章?）“愿望”之力】

Chef_C

So you think Klein will finally be able to directly talk to the Evernight Goddess now that he’s an angel? I’d love to have someone who knows what the f*ck is going on but not a conniving douche like Amon to drop some verified info. Plus if she does turn out to be like Klein and is from the Earth Epoch (I’m not believing it entirely until she says it herself) he’ll finally have someone who gets him to lampoon too.

所以你們覺得克萊恩成了天使之后是不是就能和黑夜女神直接對話了？我真的很想希望能有一個(gè)知道一切內(nèi)幕但又不像阿蒙那么混蛋的人提供一些有根據(jù)的信息。而且，如果她最后真是和克萊恩一樣來自地球紀(jì)元的人（在她本人親口承認(rèn)之前我不會完全相信這個(gè)推論），那他就終于能遇見一個(gè)聽得懂他心里那些吐槽的人了。

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（回復(fù)樓上）Dex2

Why would she be a scoundrel? From what we've seen, she, ASG, and Lilith were likely allies back then. When Lilith was betrayed, like you've said, she helped conceal her survival while they killed Omebella and (seemingly) ASG stole her fate and put it on Lilith. Later, it seems Lilith switched pathway and became seq 0 of Planter pathway. As for God of Combat, look at this way:???Lilith is Evernight's ally???God of Combat is an enemy to Evernight. Not only that, God of Combat is the son of the enemy (Giant king Aumir) who betrayed Lilith. Who will Lilith support? If that's not enough, seeing that Evernight had that moon thing, it seems she is the one who preserved it for Lilith when she fell. They made this plan long ago to deal with the guy and Evernight would give it back. As you can see, Lilith has every reason to support her ally. Roselle said, "once you choose your pathway, you've determined your friends and enemies." It isn't even about being good or bad. Like Klein and Zaratul, one has to kill the other or demote them to a lower sequence to get the seq 1 char. That's why it's said this world is full of chaos and contradiction. You have to kill or be killed. Oh, there are still good and bad people even in this cruel world???. Zaratul is definitely bad. He killed those dogs and even works together with the likes of Suah. Death to Zaratul??????????

為什么你會覺得她是個(gè)騙子？從目前我們看到的情況來看，她，遠(yuǎn)太，還有莉莉絲當(dāng)時(shí)很可能是盟友。莉莉絲被背叛的時(shí)候，就像你所說的，她幫忙隱匿了她還活著的事實(shí)，然后他們殺掉了歐彌貝拉，（似乎）遠(yuǎn)太竊走了他的命運(yùn)，將命運(yùn)放到了莉莉絲身上。之后，好像莉莉絲轉(zhuǎn)了途徑，成為了耕種者的序列0。至于戰(zhàn)神，看起來似乎是這樣的：?莉莉絲是黑夜的盟友；?戰(zhàn)神是黑夜的敵人。不僅如此，戰(zhàn)神是背叛了莉莉絲的敵人的兒子（巨人王奧爾米爾）。那莉莉絲還能支持誰呢？如果這些論據(jù)還不夠的話，黑夜還有那個(gè)月亮一樣的東西，那個(gè)東西應(yīng)該是她在莉莉絲隕落的時(shí)候保存下來的。他們很久以前就制定了這個(gè)計(jì)劃，只要搞定那個(gè)家伙，然后黑夜就會將這個(gè)東西還給她。所以如你所見，莉莉絲就沒有不支持她的盟友的理由。羅塞爾說過，“你在選擇了途徑的同時(shí)，也選擇了你的朋友和敵人?！边@和善惡好壞根本沒有關(guān)系。就像是克萊恩和查拉圖，他們要么殺掉彼此，要么就降級到更低的序列，總有一個(gè)人要拿走序列1特性。這也是他們說這個(gè)世界就是充滿了無序和瘋狂的原因。你要么殺人，要么被殺。哦，但在這個(gè)殘酷的世界里還是有好人和壞人存在的。查拉圖絕對是壞人。他殺掉了那些狗狗，甚至還和斯厄阿這樣的家伙合作！查拉圖去死吧！

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（回復(fù)樓上）Byakuei86

if u see carefully it was never Giant King Aumir that betray Lilith but more like a stage play that include all party (ASG,evernight and Lilith the only people got played here i think only god of combat) she(evernight) betray ancient gods by making some deal with ASG like kill Flegrea, give me all 3 characteristic _ uniqueness and i help u topple the 5 ancient god that u need to become above sequence.. for me it look like that but alas i say that if i in her shoe there is 50~50 i also will do the same its like some powerful people give u offer"help me do a little lie and in return i give a share that worth billions of dollar" but in her case of coz bigger stake which is become a deity... i don't know that will hAppen in future so i might be wrong or i also can be right since i only read what is translated but for now that how i see thing develop for now

如果你仔細(xì)看了，就知道背叛莉莉絲的不是巨人王奧爾米爾，這一切更像是一場舞臺劇，有各方勢力參與（遠(yuǎn)太，黑夜和莉莉絲，唯一一個(gè)一直被玩弄的應(yīng)該只有戰(zhàn)神），她（黑夜）背叛了古神，和遠(yuǎn)太做了類似殺掉弗雷格拉之類的交易，“給我所有3個(gè)特性/唯一性，然后我?guī)湍阃品愠蔀樾蛄兄闲枰愣ǖ?個(gè)古神”……對我來說這看起來更像是這種情況，但我必須得說，換成我站在她那個(gè)位置，我有一半幾率也會做和她一樣的事情，這感覺就像是某個(gè)有權(quán)有勢的大人物跟你提出一個(gè)交易，“幫我撒一個(gè)小謊，作為回報(bào)，我會給你一份價(jià)值數(shù)十億美元的股份”，但換成她的情況，這個(gè)回報(bào)更大，那就是成為神明的可能性……我不知道接下來會發(fā)生什么，所以我的猜測可能也是錯(cuò)的，或者也有可能是對的，我只看了目前翻譯的部分，但這是我目前為止能預(yù)測的劇情走向

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（回復(fù)樓上）BurntCabbage

Evernight would make a damn good Fool if "She" went down that pathway. Tricking gods for thousands of years is no small feat. "She" is a much better trickster and is way scarier than Amon.

黑夜如果沿著占卜家途徑走的話會成為一個(gè)絕頂優(yōu)秀的“愚者”的。她欺騙了眾神幾千年，這可不是一件小事?！暗k”在騙術(shù)和詭計(jì)方面比阿蒙要優(yōu)秀和可怕得多。

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（回復(fù)三樓）Shtriya

I agree . She definitely has hands in death of Flegera and she even destroyed his family to roots . Uses jer diaghter as vessel . And who knows if she was behind manipulation of more than one things and could be after the betrayel of King of Angels . Afterall i dont think that ASG beliving them truly and will make error like that . And i dont get this thing from the day i got to know about True creator . If TC is born after Extreme emotioms of ASG . Then where is conscious of ASG . If it were with TC then he should be with Adam for sure . But both hate each other for reason , which seems like more of melow drama of being true heir to ASG . So question is . Where is ASG consiousness? and if Earth mother and Evernight were his ally ? Why they let king betray him ? And where is his consciousness or is it in slumber , inside True creator or somewhere else ?

我同意。弗雷格拉的死亡她絕對有參與，而且她甚至還把他的整個(gè)家族斬草除根了。還把他的女兒做成了容器。誰知道她背后還操縱了幾件事情呢，她可能在天使之王的背叛中也摻了一腳呢。畢竟我不覺得遠(yuǎn)太會真心相信他們，也不覺得他會犯下這樣的錯(cuò)誤。而且自從我知道了真實(shí)造物主的真相之后，我就完全沒辦法理解事情走向了。如果真實(shí)造物主是極端情況下誕生的遠(yuǎn)太，那遠(yuǎn)太的知性現(xiàn)在到底在哪里。如果之前在真造那里，那他現(xiàn)在應(yīng)該肯定在亞當(dāng)哪那里。但他們兩個(gè)都有憎恨彼此的理由，這看起來更像是一場爭奪誰才能繼承遠(yuǎn)太正統(tǒng)的狗血大戲。所以問題就是。那遠(yuǎn)太現(xiàn)在的知性到底在哪里？如果大地母神和黑夜之前都是他的盟友呢？為什么他們會允許國王背叛他》他現(xiàn)在的知性到底是在什么地方，還是說正在真造體內(nèi)或者什么地方沉睡著呢？

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Marukusius

Lol, didn't think i got it right, but damn i'm good!!! On another note, i didn't think that when i once said that if Klein got to be Sequence 0 he would have the power to model his past so he can become Sequence 0, someone really did model his past to become The Fool, but it wasn't Klein it was Mysteries!!!

哈哈哈哈，沒想到我竟然猜對了，我真nb?。?！另外我也沒想到，我之前曾經(jīng)說過，如果克萊恩想成為序列0，應(yīng)該得有提取他過去記憶并模擬出來的能力，這樣他才能成為序列0，結(jié)果真的有人通過模擬他的過去成為了愚者，只是那個(gè)人不是克萊恩，是詭秘??！

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ResidentialPsycho

The Evernight Goddess is cunning. Sounds a lot like Klein.

黑夜女神真的很狡猾。聽起來很像克萊恩呢。

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Surely_Panda

The old Chinese saying goes "the oldest ginger are the spiciest" as way to say the old experienced ones that are wiley. Guess we know who is the spiciest gal here.

中國有句老話叫“姜還是老的辣”，說的是那些經(jīng)驗(yàn)豐富的老家伙都很狡猾。我猜這回我們應(yīng)該知道誰才是這一片最辣的姑娘了。

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Shtriya

I have this feeling there even much more grand scheme is in play and it is about ASG .Now Adam has become god . Who knows what will that innocent looking guy will do . Saviour of world???.

我有種感覺，更大的陰謀還在后面呢，而且是和遠(yuǎn)太有關(guān)的?，F(xiàn)在亞當(dāng)成神了。誰知道這個(gè)看似純真的家伙會做什么呢。救世主23333

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Tetractys

What was the ancient history back then? Was it assumed that Lilith survived to the current era, or that She "perished" with the other gods such as Flegrea?

所以遠(yuǎn)古時(shí)代的歷史真相到底是什么？是說莉莉絲成功茍到了現(xiàn)在這個(gè)時(shí)代，還是說她和其他的神明一同“消亡”了，比如弗雷格拉？

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（回復(fù)樓上）gia111

Everyone thought that Lilith was killed because of the Giants' betrayal (even though the CIty of Silver claims that ASG did it) We now know that Amanises Concealed Lilith's survival and that ASG helped.

每個(gè)人都以為莉莉絲因?yàn)榫奕说谋撑讯粴⒘耍m然白銀城說是遠(yuǎn)太干的），我們現(xiàn)在發(fā)現(xiàn)的是，其實(shí)阿曼尼西斯隱秘了莉莉絲存活下來的事情，而且是遠(yuǎn)太幫助莉莉絲活了下來。