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【龍騰網(wǎng)】豐田新開發(fā)的電動(dòng)車電池0到100%的充電時(shí)間僅為10分鐘,續(xù)航500km

2021-01-11 16:57 作者:龍騰洞觀  | 我要投稿

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Toyota set to roll out its revolutionary solid-state battery in 2021

豐田將于2021年推出革命性的固態(tài)電池


The automotive industry is set for yet another big leap next year, as Toyota is reportedly on the verge of rolling out its “game-changing” solid-state battery.

據(jù)報(bào)道,隨著豐田即將推出其“顛覆性的”的固態(tài)電池,汽車行業(yè)明年將迎來又一次重大飛躍。


According to Nikkei Asia, the Japanese carmaker plans to be the first to sell solid-state battery-powered EVs this decade, and that it will be unveiling a prototype in 2021. Toyota promises that the new battery will “be a game-changer not just for electric vehicles, but for an entire industry.”

據(jù)《日經(jīng)亞洲》(Nikkei Asia)報(bào)道,這家日本汽車制造商計(jì)劃成為本世紀(jì)第一家銷售固態(tài)電池動(dòng)力電動(dòng)汽車的公司,并將于2021年推出一款原型車。豐田承諾,這種新型電池“不僅將改變電動(dòng)汽車的規(guī)則,而且將改變整個(gè)行業(yè)的規(guī)則?!?/p>


So, what’s up with all the hype, then? Well, solid-state batteries are expected to become a viable alternative to the usual lithium-ion units that we see in most electric vehicles today. These new power packs offer greater energy density as well as lower risks of fire.

那么,這些炒作是怎么回事呢?固態(tài)電池有望成為當(dāng)今大多數(shù)電動(dòng)汽車中常見的鋰離子電池的可行的替代品。這些新的電源組提供了更大的能量密度以及更低的火災(zāi)風(fēng)險(xiǎn)。



Toyota has yet to specify when exactly we’ll be seeing the new battery—as well as the prototype it’ll be powering—in action. One thing’s for sure: We’ll be keeping an eye out for it ourselves.

豐田還沒有具體說明我們將在什么時(shí)候看到這種新電池——以及它將驅(qū)動(dòng)的原型汽車——并投入使用。有一件事是肯定的:我們會(huì)密切關(guān)注它。


評(píng)論翻譯

Radius8887
Thought it was 500 miles at first, then realized it was kilometers. Sadness.

開始以為是500英里,后來意識(shí)到是公里,傷心。



usernumber1onreddit
TSLA down 2.9%. Well, if the markets believed Toyota, TSLA would be down more than that.
If true, solid state batteries and super fast chargers would make electricity guzzlers feasible.

特斯拉銷售量下降了2.9%。好吧,如果市場(chǎng)相信豐田的話,TSLA的跌幅還會(huì)更大。
如果這是真的,固態(tài)電池和超高速充電器將使耗電裝置具有可行性。


giovanne88
I dont understand why so many battery technologies come up but they never come to market.
Is the technology fake? or its very expensive and hard to manufacture to scale?

我不明白為什么會(huì)出現(xiàn)那么多電池技術(shù),但它們從來沒有進(jìn)入市場(chǎng)。
技術(shù)是假的嗎?或者它非常昂貴,很難成規(guī)模的制造?



barbadas
I think current EV biggest problem is charging time. 10min would be amazing even if its 200-300km.

我認(rèn)為目前電動(dòng)汽車最大的問題是充電時(shí)間。即使是200-300公里,10分鐘的充電時(shí)間也是驚人的。



GadreelsSword
Sure. Would love it to be true but I’ve been hearing this stuff for thirty years and the technology never seems to pan out.

當(dāng)然,我希望這是真的,但是我已經(jīng)聽了30年了,這項(xiàng)技術(shù)似乎從來沒有實(shí)現(xiàn)過。


Tamazin_
And how much would it cost, using what superrare materials or complex manufacturing process? Or can it be manufactured with speed, to a low cost, and will it be available within oh, say the coming decade? No? Thought as much.

使用什么超稀有材料或復(fù)雜的制造工藝,它的成本是多少? 或者它能以較低的成本快速生產(chǎn),并在未來十年內(nèi)實(shí)現(xiàn)生產(chǎn)嗎?不會(huì)?想的太多了。



Deadmanjustice
800km/500 miles per charge is what we're waiting for, in the US you might drive over 300 miles before finding a charger if you're traveling through the midwest.

800公里/500英里的續(xù)航里程是我們期待的,在美國,如果你在中西部旅行,你可能要開300多英里才能找到充電器。


Whyzocker
I dont believe it before i see it.

在看到實(shí)物之前我是不會(huì)相信的。



peolorat
There are lots of battery technology better than what we use now, but the question is; can you scale up the manufacturing capability to what is needed? The chemistry is simple. implementing the chemistry is the difficult part because the world needs a shit TON of batteries.

有很多電池技術(shù)比我們現(xiàn)在使用的更好,但問題是;你們能把這種電池的生產(chǎn)能力擴(kuò)大到所需要的程度嗎? 化學(xué)反應(yīng)很簡單,但實(shí)施化學(xué)反應(yīng)是困難的,因?yàn)檫@個(gè)世界需要大量的電池。


Gitanes
If only they could make a phone with those batteries...

要是他們能用這些電池來制造手機(jī)就好了……


Bouchie
If any of that is true I don't want to be anywhere near one of those things when it's pluged in.

如果這些都是真的,當(dāng)它被插進(jìn)去充電的時(shí)候,我可不想靠近這些東西。


Kickagnome
It’s funny. People used to refuse to drive ICEs because they ran on gasoline and thought they’d blow up. It’s the exact same thing, a hundred years later.

這很有趣。人們過去拒絕駕駛汽車,因?yàn)樗麄儙е团埽J(rèn)為他們會(huì)爆炸。同樣的事情一百年后又發(fā)生了。


Lumpify
HOPEFULLY THEY DISIGN A CAR THAT ISN'T BUTTFUCK UGLY TO PUT IT IN

希望他們能設(shè)計(jì)出一輛不是那么難看的車



wsxedcrf
If you got a 10min 0-100% charge battery, your battery business can be as vibrant as your auto business.

如果你有一個(gè)10分鐘100%充電的電池,你的電池業(yè)務(wù)可以像你的汽車業(yè)務(wù)一樣充滿活力。


P
If this is true I’m now interested in buying an EV.

如果這是真的,我現(xiàn)在有興趣購買電動(dòng)汽車。


Tal_Banyon
Electric vehicle advances are sure to come quite regularly as more and more electric vehicles hit the roads. Which is all to the good!

隨著越來越多的電動(dòng)汽車上路,電動(dòng)汽車的進(jìn)步肯定會(huì)非常有規(guī)律,這一切都很好!


TSB_1
Too bad they arent planning on making pure-EVs for another 5-6 years.
Their Mirai doesnt count as an EV, as it is a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle.

太糟糕了,他們?cè)诮酉聛淼?-6年內(nèi)不打算制造純電動(dòng)汽車。
他們的Mirai不算電動(dòng)汽車,因?yàn)樗菤淙剂想姵仄嚒?/p>


Nappev
And how much emissions does a battery take during construction ?

在電池制造過程中排放的廢氣量是多少?


texxelate
500km of range is great, inline with some petrol vehicles, but it isn’t anything to write home about. 0-100 charge in 10 minutes though, that’s extraordinary.

500公里的續(xù)航里程很不錯(cuò),與一些汽油車配合使用,但這并不是什么值得一提的,在10分鐘內(nèi)充滿100%的電,這太驚人了。



Gotanno
That's close to filling a regular car with petrol (in terms of range and time taken to fill).
What would be the cost of a charge like that, compared to petrol?

這相當(dāng)于給一輛普通汽車加汽油(從加汽油的路程和時(shí)間來看)。
與汽油相比,這樣一筆費(fèi)用是多少?


liamd99
Usually you'll pay 1/5th of your fuel costs in an EV compared to a gasoline car. Could change with prices and taxes of course. Fast charging is more expensive than charging at home. So probably less of a gap, but i expect it to be quite a bit cheaper still. Most people only fast charge on road trips, so that makes it less of a concern.

一般來說,電動(dòng)汽車的費(fèi)用是汽油車的五分之一。當(dāng)然會(huì)隨著價(jià)格和稅收的變化而變化。快速充電比在家充電更貴。所以差距可能會(huì)更小,但我預(yù)計(jì)還是會(huì)更便宜一些。大多數(shù)人只在公路旅行中快速充電,所以這就不那么令人擔(dān)心了。



DarkSideofOZ
Sounds almost like a supercapacitor rather than a battery with that charge rate.

聽起來更像是超級(jí)電容器,而不是充電率很高的電池。


Black_RL
Toyota needs to make batteries for Apple.
iPhone batteries suck ass!

豐田需要為蘋果生產(chǎn)電池
iPhone電池爛透了!


Nineteen_AT5
This is all very well and good, but what about shelf life? If charging it faster shortens the life of the battery it defeats the whole purpose of the green revolution, especially if I'm having to buy new ones every 3/5 years.

這一切都很好,但電池壽命呢?如果充電速度加快會(huì)縮短電池的壽命,這就違背了綠色革命的全部目的,尤其是如果我每3到5年就得買一個(gè)新的電池。


snick8467
Gotta wonder if there's a capacitor in there or something

我想知道里面是不是有個(gè)電容器什么的


cryptoclysm
As Tesla has demonstrated, the issue isn't the battery tech. It's the cost of it. I would be far more excited if they announced a record low cost per KW battery, as that would actually shake up the EV market

正如特斯拉所證明的那樣,問題不在于電池技術(shù)。這是成本問題。如果他們宣布每千瓦電池的成本創(chuàng)歷史新低,我會(huì)更加興奮,因?yàn)檫@將撼動(dòng)電動(dòng)汽車市場(chǎng)



level 1
Big if true, but cost is still the deciding factor here. I want an EV, but they're still too cost prohibitive for me and I'm making $50k/year. Even the subsidies and tax breaks don't really drive it down substantially enough.

如果這是真的,那就太好了,但成本仍然是決定因素。我想要電動(dòng)汽車,但對(duì)我來說價(jià)格還是太高了,我一年掙5萬美元。即使是補(bǔ)貼和稅收減免也不足以使其價(jià)格大幅下降。


icecreampoop
10 minutes is incredible. My phone takes 4 hours for a full charge

10分鐘是不可思議的。我的手機(jī)充滿電需要4個(gè)小時(shí)


pixelkarma
Those are the stats I’m looking for. Now release a vehicle that’s cheap with those stats.

這些就是我要找的數(shù)據(jù)?,F(xiàn)在發(fā)布一輛擁有這些數(shù)據(jù)的廉價(jià)汽車。


jesbiil
This is really the only thing I'm waiting for with EV-tech, better batteries.

這真的是我唯一在等待的電動(dòng)汽車技術(shù),性能更好的電池。


blamethepartsguy
There's always posts like this, meanwhile Tesla has over a million cars on the road, with zero actual competition

與此同時(shí),特斯拉有100多萬輛汽車在路上行駛,卻沒有真正的競爭對(duì)手


zeek215
That’s great Toyota. I’ll believe it when I see you put it into a car.

這是偉大的豐田,當(dāng)我看到你把電池放進(jìn)車?yán)飼r(shí),我就相信了。


wip30ut
yet Toyota is still trying to push the hydrogen-powered Mirai on us!

然而,豐田仍在試圖將氫動(dòng)力汽車Mirai推向我們!


idreesanwar98
This is very exciting if it's true, hopefully it's affordable once it become available to the public

如果這是真的,這是非常令人興奮的,希望一旦它成功,公眾能夠負(fù)擔(dān)得起



Rune_Hughez
I could also make this claim, doesn't mean it's true.
Where's the actual product and what's the real 0-100% charging time? Cos I can guarantee it won't be 10 minutes (which is also still too long btw)

我也可以這樣說,但這并不意味著它是正確的。
真正的產(chǎn)品在哪里?真正的0-100%充電時(shí)間是多少? 因?yàn)槲冶WC不會(huì)超過10分鐘(順便說一句,這也太長了)


BradleyUffner
Sure, let me just plug that directly in to the local nuclear power station...

當(dāng)然,讓我直接把它連接到當(dāng)?shù)氐暮穗娬尽?/p>


Thiswaycomrads
Honestly, I always knew Toyota was going to dominate the ev market. They just need time. They make too much money from selling cars that run on gas so their main focus was staying there. They are no starting to put more and more money and attention for the ev market and look at what they doing. Tesla is making the money right now but once Toyota starts selling these batteries and start putting them in cars that seep for less then 30,000 or 40,000 they are going to start to take big chucks out of tesla market share.

老實(shí)說,我一直都知道豐田將主宰電動(dòng)汽車市場(chǎng)。他們只是需要時(shí)間。他們從銷售燃油汽車中賺了太多的錢,所以他們的主要目標(biāo)還是在燃油汽車上。他們開始沒有投入越來越多的資金和關(guān)注電動(dòng)車市場(chǎng),看看他們現(xiàn)在正在做什么。特斯拉現(xiàn)在是賺錢的,但一旦豐田開始銷售這些電池,并開始把它們安裝到汽車上,以低于30,000或40,000的價(jià)格出售,他們將開始使特斯拉的市場(chǎng)份額大幅下降。



MrMoussab
If what they're saying is true it would be amazed. Time to invest in some Toyota stocks

如果他們說的是真的,那就太令人吃驚了,是時(shí)候投資一些豐田股票了


replicant_trash
Yup, FUCK Tesla, getting a Toyota.
Leave it to the Japanese to completely destroy the competition.

是的,去他媽的特斯拉,買豐田吧。
讓日本人徹底摧毀競爭對(duì)手吧。


BokiGilga
That's actually perfect solution for all parties. Gas stations can invest in high power chargers, build some business around it, that solves the charging network - the biggest issue buyers have with electric vehicles.
Personally 10 minutes or less is the limit I am happy at to wait at the charging station.

這實(shí)際上是各方的完美解決方案。加油站可以投資高功率充電器,圍繞它建立一些業(yè)務(wù),從而解決充電網(wǎng)絡(luò)問題——這是買家對(duì)電動(dòng)汽車最大的問題。
就我個(gè)人而言,10分鐘或更短的時(shí)間是我在充電站樂意等待的極限。


UncertainMorale
I imagine the queues would be quite big though at points. Garages would have to have a larger surface area to deal with this as a final solution.

我想在某些地方排隊(duì)的人會(huì)非常多。作為最終解決方案,車庫必須有更大的表面積來處理這個(gè)問題。



kernals12
This isn't some startup looking for VC money or a university laboratory experiment. This is one of the largest automakers in the world saying they'll have a revolutionary new battery ready by next year. I think that's believable.

這不是一家尋求風(fēng)險(xiǎn)投資或大學(xué)實(shí)驗(yàn)室實(shí)驗(yàn)的初創(chuàng)公司。這是世界上最大的汽車制造商之一,他們將在明年推出革命性的新電池。我認(rèn)為這是可信的。


mpurt3000
Mm, interesting. Toyota had bad relationship with all-electric vehicles for years and its promise of hydrogen has fell apart while still refusing a commitment to going oil-free until it saw a news of solid-state battery. I'll stick to Honda or Ford or Chevy or whoever is concerned about the future.

嗯,有意思,多年來,豐田與全電動(dòng)汽車的關(guān)系一直不佳,而且在固態(tài)電池出現(xiàn)之前,它對(duì)氫動(dòng)力汽車的承諾已經(jīng)落空,而且仍拒絕承諾不使用燃油汽車。我會(huì)選擇本田、福特、雪佛蘭,或者任何關(guān)心未來的公司。


GolfClapp
This seems too good to be true. Why wouldnt Elon have already explored this option? I mean if this tech is better than current tech I am thinking Tesla would adopt it and blow toyota out of the water.

這似乎好得令人難以置信。為什么埃隆不探索這個(gè)項(xiàng)目呢?我的意思是,如果這項(xiàng)技術(shù)比目前的技術(shù)更好,我認(rèn)為特斯拉會(huì)采用它,把豐田打敗。


23salmo24
Some Chinese mobile company gonna put that charger in their next phone.

一些中國移動(dòng)公司會(huì)在他們的下一款手機(jī)上安裝這種充電器。


NikkolaiV
That seems like a HUGE leap...and honestly that charge time would require some insane chargers, which seems pretty dangerous to be putting into a consumers hands. Still, I hope they at least have something that can compete with Tesla. I’m all for a bit of competition driving innovation.

這似乎是一個(gè)巨大的飛躍……老實(shí)說,這樣的充電時(shí)間需要一些瘋狂的充電器,如果把它交到消費(fèi)者手中,這似乎是非常危險(xiǎn)的。不過,我還是希望他們至少有可以與特斯拉競爭的產(chǎn)品。我完全支持通過競爭來推動(dòng)創(chuàng)新。



Jlchevz
If this is true, then EVs will take over the world in the next few years (which of course is going to happen but this confirms it). Range and charge time were the biggest drawbacks to EVs.

如果這是真的,那么電動(dòng)汽車將在未來幾年接管世界(這當(dāng)然會(huì)發(fā)生,但這證實(shí)了這一點(diǎn))。
續(xù)航里程和充電時(shí)間是電動(dòng)汽車最大的缺點(diǎn)。


herbw
It will also have to be efficient and inexpensive. That's not been shown by the above.

它還必須是高效和廉價(jià)的,上面沒有顯示出來。



chimaera1718
Not many technical details provided..... I still believe ICE vehicles will dominate the global automotive market at least for another 50 years.... oil is plenty, fuel is cheap and emissions control technology is improving so not financially viable to switch to EV for the final consumer

沒有提供很多技術(shù)細(xì)節(jié).....我仍然相信ICE(內(nèi)燃機(jī))汽車將主導(dǎo)全球汽車市場(chǎng)至少50年....石油充足,燃料便宜,排放控制技術(shù)正在改善,因此對(duì)于最終消費(fèi)者來說,轉(zhuǎn)向電動(dòng)汽車在經(jīng)濟(jì)上是不可行的



Whydoibother1
EVs will be cheaper to buy and run in just a few years. Not to mention faster and more reliable. Plus more and more countries are planning to ban the sale of ICE vehicles by 2030 or so. Your prediction will not age well.

幾年后,電動(dòng)汽車將更便宜地購買和運(yùn)行。更不用說更快更可靠了。此外,越來越多的國家計(jì)劃在2030年左右禁止銷售ICE車輛。你的預(yù)測(cè)不會(huì)過時(shí)。



IAmOgdensHammer
Toyota has FUCK it money as well as two decades of prius hybrid battery usage data, I think those two combined really put them well ahead in terms of development of a more efficient EV system. But seriously the amount of money they make year over year compared to other manufacturers is ridiculous.

豐田他媽的有錢,還有20年的普銳斯混合動(dòng)力電池使用數(shù)據(jù),我認(rèn)為這兩個(gè)結(jié)合在一起真的讓他們?cè)陂_發(fā)更高效的電動(dòng)汽車系統(tǒng)方面遙遙領(lǐng)先。但說真的,與其他制造商相比,他們每年賺的錢實(shí)在是太多了。


Whattheshite
Lots of armchair experts in here, everything is vaporware until it isnt.

這里有許多紙上談兵的專家,一切事情在變成現(xiàn)實(shí)之前都是虛無縹緲的。


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