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This year’s new iPhones might not have as much in the box as you’re used to. According to well-connected analyst Ming-chi Kuo, Apple is planning to stop including a power adapter and EarPods in the box with 2020 models, and will even remove the power adapter from the new iPhone SE’s packaging later this year. Kuo’s research note was reported on by AppleInsider, MacRumors, and 9to5Mac.

本年度的iPhone的盒子里可能不像往常那樣、有那么多東西了。根據(jù)著名分析師郭明琪稱，蘋果計(jì)劃停止在2020款手機(jī)的包裝盒中配備電源適配器和耳機(jī)，甚至計(jì)劃在今年晚些時(shí)候從新款iPhone SE的包裝中移除電源適配器。AppleInsider、MacRumors和9to5Mac都報(bào)道了郭的研究報(bào)告。

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Apple is attempting to offset the cost increases that come with upgrading the iPhone range to 5G, according to Kuo. Smaller packaging would be more eco-friendly and also reduce shipping costs, since more phones could fit into a single shipment. (Encouraging more sales of AirPods can’t hurt, either.)

據(jù)郭稱，蘋果正試圖抵消iPhone升級(jí)到5G所帶來的成本增加。更小的包裝會(huì)更環(huán)保，也能降低運(yùn)輸成本，因?yàn)橐淮芜\(yùn)輸可以裝載更多的手機(jī)了（也可以鼓勵(lì)銷售更多的AirPods的，這樣也沒有啥壞處。）

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Right now Apple includes EarPods with all iPhones, a 5W USB-A adapter with the 11 and SE, and an 18W USB-C adapter with the 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max. Last year’s inclusion of the 18W charger came after years of widespread complaints regarding the slow 5W adapter, so it would be surprising to see it disappear so quickly. It’s not clear, however, whether that will be the case across the whole iPhone line.

現(xiàn)在，所有的iPhone都包含了一個(gè)EarPods耳機(jī)，iPhone11和iPhoneSE中帶有一個(gè)5瓦的充電器，iPhone11 Pro和11 Pro Max則配有一個(gè)18瓦的USB-C充電器。那個(gè)龜速的5瓦充電器已經(jīng)被廣泛抱怨了多年，去年蘋果終于引入了18瓦充電器。然而如此之短的時(shí)間里、這個(gè)充電器就消失了，這將是令人驚訝的。不過，目前還不清楚iPhone的整個(gè)系列是否都會(huì)出現(xiàn)這種情況。

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Separately, Apple is said to be developing a new 20W fast charger that will come alongside new iPad models. Kuo believes a 10.8-inch iPad is coming at some point this year, with an 8.5-inch iPad mini set for the first half of 2021. These iPads will apparently come with the new 20W charger, which will otherwise be available as a separate purchase for iPhone owners.

另外，據(jù)說蘋果正在開發(fā)一款新的20W快充，它將與新的iPad型號(hào)一同推出。郭明琪認(rèn)為，今年某個(gè)時(shí)候，10.8英寸的iPad將會(huì)面世，8.5英寸的iPad mini將于2021年上半年面世。顯然，這些ipad將配備新的20W充電器，否則iPhone用戶也可以單獨(dú)購(gòu)買。

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zedx79
No EarPods? Yeah I can see that. No charger and usb cable? Courage.

沒有耳機(jī)？是的，我預(yù)料到了，但是沒有充電器和USB數(shù)據(jù)線？勇氣可嘉！

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NigelTufnel
If they change Lightning to USB-C, I’d be a lot more OK with it.

如果他們將lightning接口換成USB-C，給會(huì)更滿意一些。

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FORESEE
iPhone will never have USB-C. Let that dream die. Port-less is its next step.

iPhone永遠(yuǎn)都不會(huì)有USB-C接口，死了這條心把，接下來就是無接口了。

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Novotus
They’ll have to switch to USB-C unless the portless phone is ready for this fall. The EU has a new law that requires all phones to use USB-C in an effort to reduce e-waste.

他們必須切換到USB-C接口，除非今年秋天就能有無接口的iPhone。歐盟有一項(xiàng)新法律，要求所有手機(jī)都要使用USB-C接口，以減少電子垃圾。

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Ualdazan
The phrase ‘if they include the charger, you’d have no choice but pay for it’ makes it sound like somehow we are going to see a price cut equal to what it would cost to get a power supply. We all know that isn’t how it works. Instead what happens is they will continue to charge you whatever they think you will pay, and their profit margins will be higher.

“如果他們配了充電器，那么你別無選擇，只能為之付錢…”,
這句話讓人覺得，不知何故，我們將看到與充電器成本相等的降價(jià)？我們都知道，事情可不是這樣的，相反，蘋果將繼續(xù)向你收取他們認(rèn)為你會(huì)支付的任何費(fèi)用，他們的利潤(rùn)率還會(huì)更高。

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Intosh
Why would you expect a price cut?! Makes no sense. You are getting a phone with newer tech. You could expect a price cut if they sold you the exact same phone but without the charger. But the new phone is a different phone.
You have TWO of many variables affecting the price here — X the phone and Y the charger. Both variables change and are independent from each other.

你為什么會(huì)期待降價(jià)？這說不通，你得到的是一部充滿新科技的手機(jī)。如果他們賣給你的是一部一樣的手機(jī)、但沒有充電器，你可以期待降價(jià)，但新款手機(jī)是一款不同的手機(jī)呀。
有兩個(gè)影響價(jià)格的變量，X是手機(jī)本身，Y是充電器，兩個(gè)變量都是變化的，彼此是獨(dú)立的。

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Smartyflix
That makes sense though. When you’re only charging $700 for your phone you have to cut corners somewhere…

說得有點(diǎn)道理，當(dāng)你的手機(jī)只賣700美元時(shí)，你就必須偷工減料了。

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Turbofrog
This is a weird time for technology, when I legitimately cannot tell if you are being facetious or not. "Only charging $700" still feels like a bizarro phrase when $300 phones are so amazing these days.

這對(duì)于科技界來說、是一個(gè)奇怪的時(shí)代，我無法判斷你是否在開玩笑，當(dāng)300美元的手機(jī)都如此驚人的時(shí)候，你說“只賣700美元”？我感覺這是一句很離奇的話。

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Tekon
While yes they’re probably cheap to manufacture, including it with the phone increases the box size and therefore increases shipping costs by probably a good deal. Smaller boxes mean more phones can be shipped at a time thus reducing costs.

是的，雖然這玩意造起來很便宜，但放在包裝盒里、會(huì)增加盒子的尺寸，因此會(huì)大幅增加運(yùn)輸成本，更小的盒子、意味著一次可以運(yùn)輸更多的手機(jī)，從而降低成本。

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Marv89
And 5$ saved on a device that is sold 10million times is 50million $

一部手機(jī)省5美元，1000萬部就是5000萬美元了。

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FORESEE
People don’t understand economies of scale. They just want to complain that the phone they already have headphones & a shit ton of chargers for, won’t include one. They’re gonna be super mad once the whole industry follows in suit, as they usually do, and only the budget brands pack in "the essentials." It’s a very smart way to reduce a shit ton of waste & save a ton of money. People will get over it.

人們不了解什么叫規(guī)模經(jīng)濟(jì)，他們只是想抱怨而已。他們已經(jīng)有配備耳機(jī)的手機(jī)了，有一堆的充電器，然后還抱怨不帶充電器的手機(jī)。一旦整個(gè)行業(yè)像想往常一樣、跟進(jìn)蘋果的舉動(dòng)，他們會(huì)非常生氣的。而且只有廉價(jià)品牌才會(huì)將“必需品”放在包裝盒中。
這是一個(gè)非常聰明的方法，可以大幅減少垃圾，節(jié)省大量資金，人們將會(huì)克服的。

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asarathy
Apple definitely needs the extra 50 million….

蘋果肯定需要多賺那額外的5000萬美元。

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Trackster
Pretty sure his comment was sarcasm.

“什么叫“只賣700美元”？你是認(rèn)真的？…”
我很確定他的評(píng)論是在諷刺。

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GoodTroll
Honestly, this is probably for the best. Especially the loss of the EarPods. That’s really a waste to ship around the world only to end up in the drawers of most and eventually in the trash. The charger too. Most have a good number floating around at this point and, if not, they are readily available. No mention of the charging cable in the article. Considering how easily they wear out, hopefully they’ll still be providing a new one with a new phone purchase.

說實(shí)話，這可能是最好的方法，特別是不配備耳機(jī)，這真是一種浪費(fèi)，運(yùn)送到世界各地，然后卻被扔進(jìn)了大多數(shù)人的抽屜里，最終被扔進(jìn)垃圾桶，充電器也是如此。大多數(shù)人都有很多充電器和耳機(jī)，如果沒有的話，也很容易得到。文章中沒有提到數(shù)據(jù)線，考慮到數(shù)據(jù)線很容易磨損，我希望他們?nèi)匀辉谛率謾C(jī)中配備數(shù)據(jù)線。

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friseurtermin
As much as I hope your right about this, I really doubt Apple will ever offer any "freebie"..

對(duì)于這一點(diǎn)，雖然我希望你是正確的，但我真的懷疑蘋果是否會(huì)提供任何“免費(fèi)”的服務(wù)。

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mrgnarchr
Do they still do stickers?

他們現(xiàn)在還有l(wèi)ogo貼紙么？

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dootrick
To be fair, if your Airpods have lasted half a decade when they were only released three and a half years ago (December 2016) you’re going great guns. At that rate you’ll have have them a decade by Christmas.

公平地說，如果你的AirPods的已經(jīng)用了5年的話，那你真是太牛逼了，這玩意三年半之前才發(fā)布的（2016年12月）。按照這個(gè)速度，到圣誕節(jié)的時(shí)候，你該用了10年了吧？

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Turbofrog
If it’s actually about being environmentally friendly (which I can totally get behind), they should pass on the savings from omitting them to the consumer. Or simply unbundle them, and allow buyers to get a free charger with the purchase of an iPhone, if they want it.
As it stands now, Apple gets to pocket a few hundred million extra dollars in profit.

如果真的是為了環(huán)保（這個(gè)我完全支持），那么他們應(yīng)該用省下來的錢對(duì)消費(fèi)者讓利?；蛘吒纱嗖灰咽謾C(jī)和配件捆綁銷售，允許購(gòu)買者在購(gòu)買iPhone的時(shí)候、免費(fèi)獲得一個(gè)充電器，如果他們?cè)敢獾脑挕?br/>而從現(xiàn)在的情況來看，蘋果又可以多賺幾億美元了。

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iamantman
Yeah exactly. That’s why I was saying it’s a win win. They’re making more money, and besides the initial rift it causes, it ends up being a net positive from a marketing/brand perspective.

說的沒錯(cuò)，所以我說這是雙贏，他們賺到了更多的錢，除了剛開始會(huì)造成一些分歧，從營(yíng)銷/品牌的角度來看，這最終會(huì)是一個(gè)利好的舉動(dòng)。

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GoodTroll
The article says they’re also doing this to defray the extra cost of 5G. Not sure I really buy it but there is at least some truth to it. Any innovation is going to cost more. You can argue that year to year improvements are expected, though. It’s still a net positive for the environment, so I approve.

文章說了，他們這樣做也是為了抵消5G帶來的額外費(fèi)用，我不確定我是否真的會(huì)買，但至少有點(diǎn)道理，任何創(chuàng)新都將付出更高的代價(jià)，雖然你也可以說、本來就應(yīng)該每年都有進(jìn)步。這對(duì)環(huán)境來說也是一個(gè)利好，所以我是贊成的。

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IamsureItisnot
Lol! Apple, the one fighting like crazy against the law for right to repair and sending lawyer letters to independent shops to prevent them to repair Apple devices, Apple which does not allow any upgrade of components (every solder), no swappable SSD (like the Surface), no SD card support for their phone or tablet, …
You dare to imply that Apple does that for environment reason? That was golden!

笑死了，蘋果公司，這家瘋狂反對(duì)法律要求的“維修權(quán)”的公司，它們向獨(dú)立商店發(fā)送律師函，阻止他們修理蘋果設(shè)備，蘋果公司不允許這些商店對(duì)其部件（所有焊料）進(jìn)行任何升級(jí)，不允許更換固態(tài)硬盤（這跟微軟的surface一樣），而它們的手機(jī)和平板也不支持SD卡。
這竟敢說蘋果這樣干是出于環(huán)保的原因？你可真敢說。

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OpssYourBad
If this is true, then that means the iPhone is still not going USB-C…

如果這是真的，那就意味著蘋果仍然不會(huì)使用USB-C接口。

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DemocraticSocialist
God damn it

天殺的蘋果

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FrozenJackal
iPhone will go completely wireless and will never have a usb-c port, sorry bud!

對(duì)不起兄嘚，iPhone將全面無線化，而且永遠(yuǎn)都不會(huì)有USB-C接口

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Illabo
And it’s developers disaster. Xcode over the air debugging are still not reliable all the time. Backups through the cable are much faster too.

這將是開發(fā)者的噩夢(mèng)，Xcode無限調(diào)試仍然不可靠，而且通過數(shù)據(jù)線進(jìn)行數(shù)據(jù)備份也快得多。

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Tgggm
They might provide the cable…

他們可能會(huì)提供數(shù)據(jù)線吧。

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MicroGoogApplMazon
I’m confused as to why the whole USB-C thing is even a talking point with iPhones.
There has never been any indication that Apple is even considering switching from Lightning to USB-C. It’s not like USB-C is so new that Apple is waiting to jump on-board. They themselves made USB-C the (only) port of choice on their MacBooks years ago, and even made the switch on the iPad Pro in 2018. If they wanted it on the iPhone, they would done it by now.
It’s not happening.

我很困惑，為什么說起iPhone、要扯到USB-C接口上去呢？
從來沒有任何跡象表明蘋果正考慮從Lightning接口切換至USB-C接口，并不是說USB-C接口技術(shù)比較新，以至于蘋果正在等待加入U(xiǎn)BC-C陣營(yíng)。幾年前，蘋果就在自家的MacBook上提供了USB-C接口的選擇（也是唯一的選擇），甚至在2018年iPad pro上切換成了USB-C接口，如果他們想在iPhone上使用USB-C接口，他們現(xiàn)在就會(huì)這樣做。
反而這個(gè)并沒有發(fā)生。

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zduboss
I’m actually alright with this. I’m willing to assume 99.999% of this site’s readership already has a USB-A power brick (something that basically never wears out), and I have countless unused EarPods from my iPhones. EarPods and 5W power bricks are basically e-waste at this point.

其實(shí)我對(duì)這個(gè)沒啥問題，我會(huì)假設(shè)這個(gè)網(wǎng)站上99.999%的人都擁有USB-A充電頭（基本上沒有什么磨損），而且我已經(jīng)有無數(shù)個(gè)EarPods耳機(jī)了，在這一點(diǎn)上，EarPods和5瓦充電頭基本上就是電子垃圾。

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DemocraticSocialist
I still have the USB-A charger from my iPhone 3g recharging my water flosser.

我仍然留著我的iPhone 3G上的USB-A充電頭，用來給我的電動(dòng)牙刷充電。

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2003aaa
Better yet, I still use the brick that came with my iPod 5.5th gen to charge my iPhone XR. Pretty fast, too.

我還在用iPod 5代的充電頭給我的iPhone XR充電，也挺快的

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BlatantNinja23 Moderator, The Verge
Completely agree with this, how many earpods remain in the box and just get thrown away? I know for sure I don’t need another lightning cable. Nintendo has been doing this for years in japan, if not what, decades? Its not really that crazy of an idea. Maybe just drop the price of the standard cables/plugs for the apple new comers that might feel cheated.

完全同意這一點(diǎn)，有多少耳機(jī)躺留在盒子里、然后被扔掉？我確定我不需要另一根lightning數(shù)據(jù)線了。在日本，任天堂這樣干已經(jīng)好多年了，可能有幾十了？這個(gè)想法其實(shí)沒那么瘋狂，也許還能降低標(biāo)準(zhǔn)數(shù)據(jù)線/插頭的價(jià)格，對(duì)于蘋果新用戶來說，他們可能會(huì)覺得受騙了。

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I am not Spartacus
I just keep the new charger and the earbuds in the box. After a year or two, when it’s time to upgrade, I add them to the Swappa listing to increase the resale value of the device. It always helps, and I never need a new charger when I already have about 15-20 of them sitting in my cable drawer.

我會(huì)把新充電器和耳塞放在盒子里，一兩年后，當(dāng)我需要升級(jí)設(shè)備時(shí)，我會(huì)把它們添加到Swappa列表中，以增加二手設(shè)備的轉(zhuǎn)售價(jià)值。這種方法百試不爽，而且我從來都不需要一個(gè)新充電器，因?yàn)樵谖业某閷侠铮呀?jīng)有15-20個(gè)充電器了。

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ben492
Most "regular" people I see around me, aka not tech enthusiast, use their default headphones that came in the box. Earpods are still very popular in my country because they’re more convenient to use without a dongle, and not everybody wants to upgrade to AirPods.
Let’s also not forget that most people are cheap when it comes to buying accessories like chargers or cables. I don’t think it’s a good idea to stop including chargers, so that the average Joe plugs his brand new iphone 12 pro max to a 5$ charger. Because let’s be honest, official Apple accessories are too expensive for the average buyer.
And when people upgrade their iphone, they usually sell their previous model, with their old charger. So I don’t think it’s that obvious that people have multiple quality chargers lying around at home.

我周圍的大多數(shù)“普通”人，也就是說、他們不是技術(shù)愛好者，都會(huì)使用盒子里默認(rèn)的耳機(jī)。EarPods在我們國(guó)家仍然很受歡迎，因?yàn)闆]有加密鎖，它使用起來也更加方便，而且不是人人都想升級(jí)到AirPods。
我們也不要忘了，大多數(shù)人在購(gòu)買充電器或數(shù)據(jù)線等配件時(shí)都很吝嗇。我不認(rèn)為去除充電器是一個(gè)好主意，這樣一來，普通人都會(huì)將他們嶄新的iphone12 promax插到一個(gè)5美元的充電器上。因?yàn)檎f實(shí)話，蘋果官方配件對(duì)普通用戶來說也忒貴了。
當(dāng)人們升級(jí)iphone時(shí)，他們通常會(huì)賣掉之前的老設(shè)備，帶著舊充電器。所以我不認(rèn)為人們家里到處都有充電器在吃灰。

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MicroGoogApplMazon
I don’t think the cost of the accessories is the problem, to be honest. If you’re spending $1,000 on an iPhone, you can surely afford the $30 or whatever the headset costs. To me, it’s more the annoyance of buying the headset separately. We’ve come to expect, over many years, that headsets are included in the box. And, of course, not everyone has a Lightning headset lying around.
For instance, I’m an Android user, so I definitely don’t have any Lightning accessories. But I have a work-issued iPhone 8. If it hadn’t come with EarPods, that would leave me a choice between either not having headphones to use with it, or spend money on buying EarPods (or a dongle) which I wouldn’t want to do since it’s not even my phone.
And when people upgrade their iphone, they usually sell their previous model, with their old charger. So I don’t think it’s that obvious that people have multiple quality chargers lying around at home.
Exactly. I’m seeing a lot of comments here about people saying they have loads of adapters lying around. I don’t understand why. I’ve owned several phones over the years, but I don’t have multiple extra chargers, because I obviously give those along when I sell my old phone. Are people here giving away their old phones without the brick and just hoarding on chargers?

老實(shí)說，我不認(rèn)為配件的價(jià)格是問題所在。如果你花1000美元買一部iPhone，你肯定也買得起30美元的耳機(jī)把、或者其他價(jià)格。對(duì)我來說，這更多是在于：要單獨(dú)購(gòu)買耳機(jī)，這很惱人。多年來，我們一直期待著盒子里會(huì)包含耳機(jī)，還有，并不是人人家里都有l(wèi)ightning接口的耳機(jī)在吃灰。。
例如，我是一個(gè)安卓用戶用戶，所以我絕對(duì)沒有任何lightning接口的配件。但我有一部iphone8，是我的工作用機(jī)，如果它沒有配備耳機(jī)，那我就只能選擇要么不帶耳機(jī)、要么花錢去買耳機(jī)（或藍(lán)牙耳機(jī)），因?yàn)檫@部iPhone8不是我的，所以我不想花錢去買耳機(jī)。
“當(dāng)人們升級(jí)iphone時(shí)，他們通常會(huì)賣掉之前的老設(shè)備，帶著舊充電器。所以我不認(rèn)為人們家里到處都有充電器在吃灰?！?--
說的一點(diǎn)沒錯(cuò)，我在這里看到很多人都說他們有一堆充電器在吃灰，我不明白這是為什么。這些年來，我用過好幾部手機(jī)，但我并沒有多個(gè)額外的充電器，因?yàn)楹苊黠@、我賣掉舊手機(jī)的時(shí)候會(huì)把這些都送給買家。這里的人賣舊手機(jī)的時(shí)候是不是都不送充電頭？只是為了囤積充電器？

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GoodTroll
Yes? I think the only charger I’ve sold with a device was with an iPad that was pretty new. I’ve sold a few to gazelle and on ebay or whatever and I don’t think they’ve ever requested chargers or cables.

是的，我想我賣舊設(shè)備、唯一帶有充電器的是一臺(tái)很新的iPad。我在gazelle和eBay上賣過一些東西，但我想他們從來沒有要求過帶充電器、或帶數(shù)據(jù)線。

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MicroGoogApplMazon
Okay… So basically there are people who are actively contributing to the e-waste problem by hoarding on chargers and cables that they don’t need, at least some of which will inevitably have to be disposed, as opposed to selling it along with the phone (which reduces your own waste and also means the buyer doesn’t have to buy another charger and potentially create more waste and add to the problem). And then those same people (or some of them, at least) are now patting Apple on the back by saying that excluding chargers is a fantastic move for the environment.

好吧…所以，基本上有些人就是通過囤積他們不需要的充電器和數(shù)據(jù)線、來解決電子垃圾問題的！至少其中一些不可避免地要被扔到，而不是和手機(jī)一起出售（這樣可以減少你自己垃圾，也意味著買家不必再另行購(gòu)買充電器，可能會(huì)產(chǎn)生給多的垃圾、并加劇環(huán)境問題）。然后，還是這些人（或者至少其中一些人）現(xiàn)在卻在拍蘋果的馬屁，聲稱不配備充電器對(duì)環(huán)境來說是一個(gè)極好的舉措？

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GoodTroll
Okay. Sure. I mean, wouldn’t the buyer already have their own chargers? The point is that there are billions of USB charges out there, most of which are likely compatible with charging phones and which have a much longer life cycle than phones. So it makes sense to hold onto them rather than send them on to someone who already has their own. Also, we happen to use all those chargers in the house. We’ve got 3 phones, 4 tablets, wireless headphones, battery powered speakers and other gadgets that use them. Holding onto a few chargers from my past phones has permitted me to have enough of them around so we can (usually) find one when it’s needed. The key is not throwing them out or shipping them off when you still need them. Otherwise it’s me definitely buying a new one instead of the other guy potentially buying one.

好吧，我的意思是，買家不是已經(jīng)有自己的充電器了嗎？關(guān)鍵是，有數(shù)十億的USB充電器了，其中大部分都能與手機(jī)充電兼容，而且它們的使用壽命比手機(jī)要長(zhǎng)得多。因此，留著這些充電器是有意義的，而不是把它們送給一個(gè)已經(jīng)有充電器的人。
而且，恰好我們也可以在整座房子里使用到這些充電器呀。我們有3部手機(jī)、4部平板電腦、還有無線耳機(jī)、電池驅(qū)動(dòng)的音箱、以及其他小玩具，都要使用充電器。留著之前老手機(jī)的充電器，充電器數(shù)量就足夠多，這樣我就可以在需要用的時(shí)候找到一個(gè)。關(guān)鍵是，不要在你還需要它們的時(shí)候把它們?nèi)拥?、或者送給別人。否則，需要買新充電器的就是我了，而不是買我設(shè)備的人。