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詭秘外國(guó)網(wǎng)友評(píng)論節(jié)選意譯 - 【1291-1294】【含本章說

2022-04-15 14:27 作者:凌冰雪  | 我要投稿

【1291章(倒吊人-25章)兩個(gè)儀式】——本章說

SuperSpecialShumai

it's been a while...????finally can do paragraph comment and earn points. The App doesn't show a lot of the chapters ?? still, awesome novel and will keep reading ???

有陣子沒上了……終于可以留本章說評(píng)論和賺經(jīng)驗(yàn)了。這個(gè)App上的章節(jié)好像不太多呀……但這本書還是很棒,會(huì)繼續(xù)追的


【“序列1:詭秘侍者?!?/p>

Skirata

sequence 2 is servant of sequence 0 god, then since sequence 1 is attendant of mysteries, does that mean sequence 1 is servant to old one level existence

序列2是序列0神明的仆人,然后序列1是詭秘侍者,這是不是意味著序列1是舊日級(jí)別存在的仆人?


(回復(fù)樓上)tomi97origin

It probably means, that sequence 1 can exist, when there is an Lord of Mysteries

這也許意味著,如果詭秘之主存在的話,那這條途徑是可以存在序列1的


【“輔助材料:九種靈界特產(chǎn);】

SuperSpecialShumai

i thought of food ??

……我還以為是食物呢


【這個(gè)城鎮(zhèn)的規(guī)模越大,秘偶越多,日常越精細(xì),不同的命運(yùn)越生動(dòng)真實(shí),延綿漫長(zhǎng),儀式的效果越好?!啊?/p>

Observer98

It was kinda obvious after seeing Kotar attempt to do this at least twice but it's good to get confirmation.

在看到科塔爾兩度試圖完成這件事之后其實(shí)這個(gè)儀式已經(jīng)很顯然了,但能確認(rèn)的確如此還是挺好的。


(回復(fù)樓上)bill123burns

can't forget half fool Antigonius' town of marrionettes at the top of hornacis mountain range where Klein just came from

而且還有半個(gè)愚者安提哥努斯在霍納奇斯峰頂建立的秘偶小鎮(zhèn),就是克萊恩剛經(jīng)過的那片地方


Shtriya

why i do feel like that there is chance of new legends among pirates again ??????

為什么我感覺海盜們之中又要流傳一個(gè)新的傳說了23333


Jak0b

One of the comments below me made me think of The Nation of Evernight that has been mentioned alot earlier in the story. Was that Antigonus's 'city'?

上面這幾條評(píng)論里有一條讓我想到了之前故事里提到過的“夜之國(guó)“。那是不是就是安提哥努斯的”那座城“?


【“這是真正的神靈,從某種意義上來說,祂就是對(duì)應(yīng)權(quán)柄的化身……祂擅長(zhǎng)以各種方式愚弄萬物,展現(xiàn)種種不可思議的神跡……】

Observer98

The Fool sounds like the most abstract out of all the deities. Everyone else seems to hold authorities relating to more "tangible", for lack of a Better word, concepts like war, order, time, space, life etc. "He" seems less like an god and more like an actual clown that just hAppens to wield great cosmic power. Though I suppose it makes more sense if you consider "him" just a small part of the larger "Mysteries".

目前聽起來愚者是所有神明里最抽象的一個(gè)。其他的神似乎都有一些更傾向于“有形之物“(想不到更好的詞了)的權(quán)柄,比如戰(zhàn)爭(zhēng),秩序,時(shí)間,空間,生命,等等等等。但”祂“不那么像是神明,更像是個(gè)恰好執(zhí)掌著一些強(qiáng)大的星空之力的小丑。不過我還是覺得,如果你把“祂”想作是更為龐大的“詭秘”的一部分,那就更能說得通了。


(回復(fù)樓上)Nox_Invictus_

I always wondered with the cowardly trio controlling space and time, but the seer pathway seeming to have no connection to space and time until the Scholar of Yore, and how high level seer pathway would work with this space-time motif. even with this description, I don't know how The Fool relates to the Error and such. Maybe it has to do with bending and controlling the rules of mysticism and the universe? with Error and Fool being about exploiting loopholes and such.

我一直在想,茍三家能控制時(shí)間和空間,但占卜家途徑似乎在古代學(xué)者之前和時(shí)間與空間都沒什么關(guān)系,而且高層次的占卜家途徑到底要怎么才能和時(shí)空這個(gè)主題扯上聯(lián)系呢。即使有了這段描述,我也還是不知道愚者和錯(cuò)誤之類的途徑到底有什么關(guān)聯(lián)。也許這還是和扭曲、控制神秘學(xué)規(guī)則還有宇宙有關(guān)系?畢竟“錯(cuò)誤”和愚者似乎都是利用漏洞什么的


Jordan_Whitmore

his authority is the razors edge Between facts and lies where truth is found, where the real becomes illusory and the illusory becomes real

他的權(quán)柄就是現(xiàn)實(shí)與謊言之間如刀刃一般鋒利的邊緣地帶,在那里存在著真理,也是真相成為幻象,幻想變?yōu)檎鎸?shí)的地方


Xariesz

Error? deceit natural law..

錯(cuò)誤?欺騙自然法則……


【“輔助材料:掌控至少四分之一個(gè)歷史迷霧;】

CaCao

Since when does the fog of history begin? ... If this starts from the beginning during the big bang is impossible!

那歷史迷霧又是什么時(shí)候開始產(chǎn)生的?……如果它從創(chuàng)世大爆炸的時(shí)候就開始存在的話,那(掌控它)簡(jiǎn)直是不可能的!

【因?yàn)闅v史迷霧和時(shí)間有關(guān),如果論及從創(chuàng)世大爆炸開始的歷史,的確人類是無法掌控的】


【“晉升儀式:愚弄一次時(shí)間、歷史或者命運(yùn)?!薄?/p>

Hulyo_july

????


(回復(fù)樓上)Hulyo_july

Let me guess, does it mean to fool time? History? And fate? At least once? Can anybody share their understanding of these ritual would Appreciate a feedback thnx.

讓我猜猜,這是說愚弄時(shí)間嗎?歷史?還有命運(yùn)?至少一次?有沒有人想分享一下他們對(duì)這個(gè)儀式的看法的,非常希望能看到大家的反饋,感謝感謝


(回復(fù)樓上)Redwinter

He is reaching a level where his spiritual intuition would naturally tell him what to do based on his own conjectures. He will figure it out

以他現(xiàn)在到達(dá)的級(jí)別,他的靈性直覺已經(jīng)能直接告訴他接下來需要做什么了。他會(huì)知道的


(回復(fù)二樓)Dex2

It says "or" not "and" meaning fooling one of them is enough.

它說的是“或者”,不是“與”,所以只需要愚弄其中一個(gè)就足夠了。


Bubba970

All I can imagine is Socrates preparing to drink the Hemlock, when suddenly a frat boy teleports in, smashes his face into a desk, then yells, "ITS JUST A PRANK BRO," as he slams the potion down and diaAppears.

我能想象的只有這個(gè):蘇格拉底準(zhǔn)備喝下毒芹汁的時(shí)候,突然傳送進(jìn)來一個(gè)男孩,把他的臉摁到了桌子上,大喊道:“吃我惡作劇啦兄弟!”然后把毒藥摔到地上之后就消失了


HeinousFox

Hmm, my guess is that Amon can be considered time, Mr Door fate, but I am not sure if Zaratul can be considered history since he dont have the uniqueness. Hehe, I am looking forward for Klein to fool Amon. ??

嗯,我的猜想是,阿蒙=時(shí)間,門先生=命運(yùn),但我不確定查拉圖算不算是歷史,因?yàn)樗矝]有唯一性。呵呵,我已經(jīng)迫不及待想看克萊恩愚弄阿蒙了。


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

I don't see how Mr. Door can be considered fate. From Apprentice pathway, what we've seen has mainly been space manipulation and other magical abilities but fate? We haven't seen that aspect really. At least Amon sort of represents Time but Zaratul being history is sort of meh. Doesn't fit

為啥門先生=命運(yùn)?不理解。學(xué)徒途徑目前看起來主要是關(guān)于空間方面的操縱,還有其他的一些魔術(shù)能力,但命運(yùn)?我們目前還沒怎么見到這方面的東西啊。至少阿蒙多少能算是時(shí)間方面的,但查拉圖代表歷史就不太行了。不合適


(回復(fù)樓上)HeinousFox

Yeah, it doesn't make much sense, I was only thinking in a way that could be cool. The monster pathway is probably the one more suitable to be fate, but since seer also has a portion of it, won't only a portion be enough for the ritual? (Something like fooling a prediction?) Also, I may be paying poor attention to this, but I think the "time" authority from Amon only come at sequence 1 right? Maybe Mr. Door also gained a lot of "fate" authority at sequence 1, I dont think we now enough of his pathway to say for sure he don't have. But I am pretty convinced that "history" is from Seer Pathway, so why cant Zaratul be one target to fool? Of course, all this is on the assumption that the target to fool can be a beyonder that represents history, fate or time, I feel like it would be more cool to fool Amon as example than fooling time itself.

是的,的確不太能說通,我只是覺得這個(gè)角度應(yīng)該挺酷的。怪物途徑也許更適合命運(yùn)一些。但既然占卜家也有它的一部分,那這對(duì)于儀式的需要來說不也足夠了嗎?(類似愚弄預(yù)言什么的?)而且,之前我也許沒注意到,但我感覺阿蒙的“時(shí)間”權(quán)柄也只是在序列1顯現(xiàn)的對(duì)吧?也許門先生也是在序列1才能獲得許多關(guān)于“命運(yùn)”的權(quán)柄呢?我不覺得我們對(duì)于他的途徑的了解已經(jīng)多到可以斷定他沒有這方面的能力了。但我很確信“歷史”肯定是占卜家途徑的,所以為什么查拉圖就不能是愚弄的目標(biāo)之一呢?當(dāng)然,這一切只是建立在“他愚弄的目標(biāo)可以是代表了歷史,命運(yùn)或者時(shí)間的非凡者”的假說的基礎(chǔ)上。我感覺把阿蒙當(dāng)作愚弄目標(biāo)比單純愚弄時(shí)間本身要酷多了。


(回復(fù)二樓)Unzo_Ivazaki

snake of mercury or snake of fate from the monster sequence

怪物序列的水銀之蛇或者命運(yùn)之蛇


(回復(fù)一樓)Crusix

fate? what about our little snake from monster pathway?

命運(yùn)?那我們怪物途徑的小蛇呢咋辦?


(回復(fù)一樓)Bone_God

it's not pointing to a specific beyonder but the world/universe itself

這不是指向某個(gè)特定的非凡者的東西,而是指向世界/宇宙本身的


Observer98

Klein about to pull the greatest scam of all scams.

克萊恩即將施展出世界上最偉大的騙局。


BrokenMortal

When Amon attempts to steal his advancement he will need to "fool" his fate and become a god. Maybe?

阿蒙試圖偷走他的晉升儀式的時(shí)候,他就得“愚弄”他的命運(yùn),然后成神?也許?


bukvyrm

hasn't he already done these? acting ahead of time counts too, right?

他不是已經(jīng)成功了嗎?都提前了好久扮演了,這也算吧?


【看著看著,克萊恩眉頭逐漸皺了起來,于心里無聲自語道:“比起‘詭秘侍者’的晉升儀式,‘愚者’的實(shí)在是太過抽象了……怎么才能算愚弄時(shí)間、歷史或者命運(yùn)?又怎么鑒定有沒有成功?】

Aby55

Yooo could he alter the past? Trick history??? This makes me think of the "illusions that fool the world" trope

他能改變過去嗎?欺騙歷史???這讓我想到了那種“欺騙了整個(gè)世界的幻象”之類的劇本


(回復(fù)樓上)Roland

psst... reveal in the later part of the story... keep reading...

噓……故事后半段會(huì)揭曉的……繼續(xù)讀……


(回復(fù)樓上)Aby55

annoying ass hints...smh

擱這暗示什么呢,真煩人……搖頭


Vessel_Scholar

el psy congroo

【出自命運(yùn)石之門,鳳凰院兇真的經(jīng)典臺(tái)詞,其實(shí)命運(yùn)石之門的劇情就很類似上面提到的猜想】


(回復(fù)樓上)Solterage

Yo, it would be awesome if the author pulls Operation Skuld on The Fool's ritual. It would be the most epic moment!

喲,如果作者在愚者的儀式上實(shí)行了skuld作戰(zhàn),那可就精彩了。那簡(jiǎn)直是最燃瞬間!

【同樣是出自命運(yùn)石之門的情節(jié)?!?/p>


Observer98

Now you know how Will feels about his ritual. Though Klein at least has a tangible goal.

現(xiàn)在你知道威爾對(duì)他自己的儀式是什么感覺了。不過克萊恩的目標(biāo)至少還更切實(shí)一點(diǎn)。


Solterage

Does alter the past counted as fool time or history? He did 'look' at the Ancient Sun God once and 'He' even replied to Klein in which, logically, shouldn't even be possible because they are from different 'Time'.

改變過去算不算是愚弄了時(shí)間或者歷史?他確實(shí)“直視”過遠(yuǎn)太一回,而且“祂”甚至還回復(fù)了克萊恩,這個(gè)邏輯上來說,難道不是根本不可能發(fā)生的嗎,畢竟他們可是不同“時(shí)間”的人啊


SRandom

Imagine Lord of the Mysteries is his future self, then he would have fooled time

想象一下,如果詭秘之主就是未來的他自己,那他就已經(jīng)愚弄過時(shí)間了


Zarivon

Advance ritual again? Depending on how you define fooling fate and time. Fate - He's not Klein Moretti but took over his life, his "fate," after Klein died. Or you could say Zhou Mingrui should have died millenia ago but was hidden away. Time - Zhou Minrui was hidden away in a sephirot and reAppeared after several millenia. Fool history... hm... I'd think that would mean hiding true events behind falsehoods, leaving no one else who knows the truth? The purpose of the ritual is to create an anchor in the fog of history that belongs only to The Fool?

又是提前完成儀式?這取決于你如何定義愚弄時(shí)間和命運(yùn)。命運(yùn)——他并不是克萊恩·莫雷蒂,但卻在克萊恩死后占據(jù)了他的人生,他的“命運(yùn)”。或者你也可以說,周明瑞本來幾千年前就該死了,但卻被藏了起來。

時(shí)間——周明瑞被藏在了源質(zhì)里,在幾千年后再度出現(xiàn)。愚弄?dú)v史……唔……我會(huì)覺得這應(yīng)該意味著用虛假掩藏真相,保證沒有人直到真相??jī)x式的目的應(yīng)該是為了在歷史迷霧中制造只屬于愚者的錨吧?


(回復(fù)樓上)Roland

the identity thing is quiet problematic, because in Faceless sequence he alr said his TRUE identity is not Klein nor Zhou, but mix of both and he accept it...

這個(gè)身份問題相當(dāng)大,因?yàn)闊o面人的時(shí)候他已經(jīng)說過了,他的真實(shí)身份不是克萊恩,也不是周,而是兩者的混合,而且他自己也接受了這一點(diǎn)……


(回復(fù)一樓)SnApplemonkey

I think it's less literall, and is referring to specific people, like the angels of fate, time and history would be someone else in his own sequence who can summon things from the past.

我感覺這段沒有那么局限于字面的意思,是可以指向于某幾個(gè)人的,比如命運(yùn)天使,時(shí)天使和歷史天使什么的,可以是他自己序列的其他人,能從過去召喚東西的。


jk315791

so zaratul full history, that he gone mad

所以查拉圖愚弄了歷史,然后他就瘋掉了


【“掌握至少四分之一個(gè)歷史迷霧對(duì)我來說還算簡(jiǎn)單,一方面我了解的古代隱秘足夠多,點(diǎn)亮的歷史碎片不少,另一方面,我是可以通過‘源堡’直接對(duì)歷史迷霧施加影響的……】

Dex2

Haha. The likes of Kalvetua and others who ascended to high levels directly

哈哈。這有點(diǎn)像卡維圖瓦還有那些其他直接晉升到高序列的人們


(回復(fù)樓上)ThisDaddy

ASG

遠(yuǎn)太


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

unfortunately in his case, he got the power and the primordial in him too ??. Not too good of luck this fella

不幸的是,他不止得到了力量,還有原初23333這老哥運(yùn)氣不算特別好


(回復(fù)一樓)SuperSpecialShumai

I keep thinking of liquor when I see it's name ??

每次看到卡維圖瓦這個(gè)名字我都感覺像是酒水的名字


【“說到‘原始月亮’的本體,那位最強(qiáng)大的舊日‘墮落母神’,從祂的稱號(hào)看,大帝會(huì)不會(huì)已經(jīng)不知不覺被玷污了……在月亮之上,也許生活著貝爾納黛未曾見過的許多弟弟和妹妹,當(dāng)然,不一定有性別區(qū)分……】

Strider1337

He still needs to one-up Rick Sanchez by f****** more planets

他想要超越瑞克·桑切斯還是得多禍禍幾顆星球

【也就是瑞克與莫蒂里的瑞克】


(回復(fù)樓上)Vanokkor

Xd


Shtriya

it says lot why he become half crazy ??????

這可真是很好地解釋了他半瘋的理由呢2333


idoking12

honey... I'm sorry, I cheated on you WITH THE FUCKING MOON

親愛的……我很抱歉,我和特么的月亮!出軌了!


(回復(fù)樓上)Manaworkz

Sokka is Big Mad

索卡很生氣

【降世神通中的索卡,前女友是月公主】


SuperSpecialShumai

??????


bukvyrm

if Bernadette succeds, wonder how mingrui and him will interact...our mc certainly has an 'interesting' opinion of him...

如果貝爾納黛真的成功了,不知道明瑞和他會(huì)有怎樣的互動(dòng)……我們的主角顯然對(duì)他有一些“很有意思”的看法……


【這都是克萊恩在神棄之地搜集到的秘偶,每次需要轉(zhuǎn)移,不方便隨身攜帶太多時(shí),他就會(huì)獻(xiàn)祭一批到灰霧之上?!?/p>

Hulyo_july

???? What a convenient storage sefira castle is.

源堡還真是個(gè)便利的儲(chǔ)藏室呢2333333


zcorpio

to THE GREAT JUNK PILE!

敬我們偉大的垃圾堆!


(回復(fù)樓上)Zarivon

If Klein died, his cocoon-mate successor would have quite the inheritance awaiting them.

如果克萊恩死掉了,他的光繭室友們可是能繼承一大筆遺產(chǎn)呢。


Nogardnoir

**** imagine how this would look to the tarot club if they were to see what is in this junk pile now and how big it must be ! ??

我去,想象一下,如果某天塔羅會(huì)看到了這個(gè)垃圾堆里面的東西,還有這個(gè)垃圾堆的規(guī)模!


【當(dāng)然,這和環(huán)保意識(shí)無關(guān),而是迷霧小鎮(zhèn)的遭遇和查拉圖展現(xiàn)的場(chǎng)景讓克萊恩直覺地認(rèn)為之后某個(gè)儀式大概率要用到很多秘偶,所以,他在這方面一直都很節(jié)儉?!?/p>

SuperSpecialShumai

?? gotta stock up on those marionettes

所以就囤秘偶是吧


【至于為什么不將這些秘偶都懸吊起來,而是讓它們坐到具現(xiàn)出來的劇場(chǎng)內(nèi),充當(dāng)觀眾,是因?yàn)榭巳R恩覺得安提哥努斯家族先祖和查拉圖的那些行為有點(diǎn)變態(tài)?!?/p>

ThisDaddy

a little he says

他只說“有點(diǎn)”


【他的狀態(tài)立刻有了變化,體表多了層五彩斑斕的衣物,腦袋上出現(xiàn)了極為華麗的頭飾,氣質(zhì)明明極為幽深恐怖,卻自帶幾分滑稽、戲謔、荒謬的感覺,呈現(xiàn)一種詭異矛盾的狀態(tài)?!?/p>

bookoflogos

like this https://files.catbox.moe/rrx0dn.jpg

就像這張圖


(回復(fù)樓上)Verez

looks like lelouch.

看起來很像魯魯修。


SherlockMoriarty

That's his lampooning persona

這是他的吐槽人格吧


【路過加爾加斯群島的時(shí)候,達(dá)尼茲和船員們購(gòu)買了一批還未煉制的鯨油,準(zhǔn)備帶回拜亞姆,用高價(jià)賣掉,誰知道,竟被白銀城的“半巨人”們“偷吃”了一部分。】

Dex2

Daniz is a true business pirate. He even had those houses back then

達(dá)尼茲真是個(gè)會(huì)做買賣的海盜。他之前甚至還有房產(chǎn)呢


【“當(dāng)然,語言天賦這種事情和智商有關(guān),你們也不用太勉強(qiáng)?!薄?/p>

zcorpio

heh, remember you and Anderson also doesn't know south continent language.

呵呵,我記得你和安德森好像也不懂南大路的語言吧。


LazySaltedFish

It's related to intelligence? I thought it was related to your crush on Edwina ??

這和智商有關(guān)嗎?我還以為只和你對(duì)艾德雯娜的迷戀程度有關(guān)呢~


【“神使大人,他們吃掉的是您買的那部分鯨油?!薄?/p>

Zuuhed

HAHAHAHA XD

哈哈哈哈哈XD


【“……狗屎!”達(dá)尼茲反應(yīng)比思緒更快地沖向了船艙。】

Observer98

He got out provoked by his own subordinate. Never change Danitz.

他被自己的下屬給挑釁了,然后直接沖出來了。真是完全沒變啊達(dá)尼茲。


【一陣紛亂后,達(dá)尼茲得到了一份序列8非凡特性做補(bǔ)償,也不知道自己是賺了,還是虧了,反正那份特性上殘留的怪物骯臟體液讓他有點(diǎn)惡心想吐。】

idoking12

just scrub the filth off of the characteristic that was once the core of someone's existence but has by now been dead for probably more than a thousand years

只是從一塊不知道是幾千年前死掉的某人的核心形成的非凡特性上擦掉污垢而已,嗯。


【他目光一掃間,突然看見海邊燈塔上立著位男子,他身穿繡風(fēng)暴符號(hào)的長(zhǎng)袍,頭發(fā)深藍(lán)近黑,如同絞成一團(tuán)的海草,臉龐線條粗獷而深刻。】

Shtriya

ahh.... Derrick's schemer grandpa ??????

啊……戴里克的智囊老爺爺~

【這里很搞笑,如果是scheme就是計(jì)謀,陰謀,但多加了一個(gè)r就變成了黃昏時(shí)刻,可以說是很巧妙的雙關(guān)了】


【視線交匯中,戴里克一下變得平靜,不再忐忑。】

Strider1337

Mr. Hanged-Man!

倒吊人先生!


Aby55

Trust this old fox!!! ahaha. I wonder if Alger will show his true face. Will the ruthless, cunning Alger show himself and we see Derrick's reaction? Whether he loses his admiration for Alger or follows in his footsteps, both would be interesting. Or has Alger been changed by this pure boy Little Sun? Alger truly allowing Little Sun into his heart and honestly helping, guiding, and mentoring him would be great too. To everyone else Alger would be a ruthless, cunning fox. But to Derrick he would be the wise, capable, and caring Uncle

相信這只老狐貍吧?。。」?。不知道阿爾杰會(huì)不會(huì)展示他的真面目呢。我們無情的、狡猾的阿爾杰會(huì)在戴里克面前展示真正的他嗎,我們能看到戴里克的反應(yīng)嗎?不管他是失去了對(duì)阿爾杰的敬佩之情,還是會(huì)選擇追隨他的腳步,哪一種都會(huì)很有意思?;蛘甙柦芤苍S會(huì)因?yàn)榧冋娴男√柖兴淖??他?huì)真正允許小太陽走進(jìn)他的內(nèi)心,真誠(chéng)地幫助他,引導(dǎo)他,作為導(dǎo)師指導(dǎo)他,這也很好。對(duì)其他人來說阿爾杰也許是個(gè)冷酷無情的狡猾老狐貍。但對(duì)戴里克來說,他是個(gè)智慧的、干練的、關(guān)心愛護(hù)他的叔叔


(回復(fù)樓上)idoking12

wtf are you talking about? they will probably just nod at each other and move on with their day for now xD

你特么在說啥?他們也許只是互相點(diǎn)個(gè)頭,然后就回到他們自己的日常生活中去了XD


(回復(fù)一樓)Shtriya

nah he is uncle scammer to others. for lil sun he is his 2nd granda who gives him schemes time to time .

不,他是其他所有人的陰謀老爺爺呢。對(duì)小太陽來說他是他的第二個(gè)老爺爺,一直以來為他提供謀略的那種。


Adam_Michael_Daw

Uncle Alger!

阿爾杰叔叔!


(回復(fù)樓上)Shtriya

he is 3rd grandpa of lil sun except former chief and klein himself . in mysticism world there are only grandpas and sugar mamas . for example , Leonard's grandpa aka zoroast , Klein's sugar mama evernight and last one emlyn's newly sugar mama Lilith .

除了前首席和克萊恩自己之外,他是小太陽的第三個(gè)老爺爺。神秘學(xué)世界里只有老爺爺和麻麻,舉個(gè)例子,倫納德的老爺爺就是索羅亞斯德,克萊恩的麻麻就是黑夜,而最后,埃姆林新近有了一個(gè)麻麻,莉莉絲。


Hulyo_july

Little Sun meets Uncle Alger.. This would be the most fitting title of this chapter. ??

小太陽遇到了阿爾杰叔叔……這應(yīng)該是本章最合適的標(biāo)題2333


(回復(fù)樓上)Shtriya

its grandpa , not uncle . Rule enforced by 00- 2 : in mysticism world their are only grandpas and sugarmama . No uncle- wuncle or others terms .

是老爺爺,不是叔叔。0-02規(guī)定的新法則:神秘學(xué)世界里只有老爺爺和麻麻。沒有什么叔叔舅舅之類的。


Skyfiend13

Papa!

爸爸!


【1291章(倒吊人-25章)兩個(gè)儀式】

Byakuei86

create a marionette town eh... come on Klein just build a Pirate City somewhere in Sonia Sea we all know u have favorite hobbies of hunting pirate... will be great surprise to those who go there seeing how the pirate is having normal life XD hahah again Danitz and his dog sh1t luck XD well im glad for Derrick tho at least they now have good life and without curse to kill their love one again...Bet if i in their shoe the possibility i've gone crazy is around 70~90%

創(chuàng)造一個(gè)秘偶小鎮(zhèn),哈?……拜托克萊恩,你就在蘇尼亞海上隨便什么地方建一個(gè)海盜城吧,我們都知道你最喜歡的事情就是狩獵海盜了……讓來到這里的人們發(fā)現(xiàn)這里的海盜竟然過著正常人生活,肯定是個(gè)大驚喜,哈哈哈哈XD達(dá)尼茲又來了,還有他那狗shi一般的運(yùn)氣XD嗯,不過我真為戴里克感到高興,至少他們現(xiàn)在有了不錯(cuò)的人生,不用再被詛咒要求著殺掉他們摯愛的人了……我敢打賭如果換成我像他們這樣生活的話,我有70-90%的幾率會(huì)發(fā)瘋


Chef_C

Derrick and Algar are about to have a moment. Probably something stoic yet emotional would be fitting, like Derrick walks up Algar and the exchange silent nods and a handshake than Algar will say “Good Job.” Derrick will keep up his strong Appearance but his eyes will redden as he holds back tears at all the hardships he has faced and all the advice Algar has given him to get to this point and Derrick will respond with a quite “Thank You.” However Cuttlefish decides to have this part play out it will definitely be a big moment considering the relationship Between the two. While Colin was like Derrick’s adopted father Algar is his reliable elder brother who was always willing to give advice and help him despite showing a sort of aloof personality most of the time.

戴里克和阿爾杰馬上就要有互動(dòng)啦。應(yīng)該會(huì)是一些非常隱晦但感性的描寫吧,比如戴里克走上前來,和阿爾杰相互沉默著點(diǎn)頭握手,然后阿爾杰會(huì)說“干得好?!?/p>

戴里克表面保持著堅(jiān)強(qiáng),但眼圈紅了,忍著眼淚,畢竟他一路走來面對(duì)過如此多的簡(jiǎn)單險(xiǎn)阻,而阿爾杰正是那個(gè)一直為他提供建議,支持他走到現(xiàn)在的人。戴里克的回答只是一句輕聲的“謝謝。”但烏賊如果真打算寫這部分情節(jié)的話,這絕對(duì)會(huì)是個(gè)重要的時(shí)刻,特別是考慮到他們倆之間的關(guān)系??屏志拖袷谴骼锟说酿B(yǎng)父一樣,阿爾杰像是個(gè)可靠的大哥,盡管大多數(shù)時(shí)候都顯得很冷漠,但對(duì)他卻一直樂意伸出援手提供建議。


(回復(fù)樓上)BluebellBerry

*coughs* Alger is also the kind of brother that occasionally takes advantage of you from time to time xD

*咳咳*阿爾杰也是那種時(shí)不時(shí)會(huì)從你這里占點(diǎn)小便宜的兄弟XD


BluebellBerry

Am I the only one curious about the other activation words? Besides the most obvious one, Bernadette, the ones we know of have already been opened. Still, with Roselle's character, there must have been some silly stupid code words. I am God? Harem master? Gah how embarrassing to have to shout it out! Imagine Adam going, "With this sword in my hand..." or "Tall, short, fat, skinny, demoness, I take them all!" ??????

我是唯一一個(gè)對(duì)其他的書簽激活口令感興趣的人嗎??除了這個(gè)最明顯的,貝爾納黛,我們已經(jīng)用它開啟過一次了。但,以羅塞爾的性格來說,肯定還有一些其他奇奇怪怪的超蠢密碼吧。我就是神?后宮之主?啊啊啊,要把這種話喊出來可太尷尬了吧!想象一下亞當(dāng)說出,“以我手中之劍……”或者“不管高矮胖瘦還是魔女,我全都要!”的樣子233333


Tetractys

For Spirit World specialties, does it mean something like "food" / delicacies? This reminds me of the ritual Zhou Mingrui once used to kickstart this whole novel.

這個(gè)靈界特產(chǎn),是說類似“食物”或者菜品之類的東西嗎?這讓我有點(diǎn)聯(lián)想到周明瑞在小說開頭引出后面所有故事的那個(gè)儀式。


(回復(fù)樓上)Chef_C

Could be food but not in the traditional sense and more of a concept that spirits sustain themselves off of. Like how spirits in some myths and stories feed on strong human emotions the things Klein needs could be something like crystallized emotion that forms in the Spirit World.

有可能是食物,但不是傳統(tǒng)意義上的那種,更有可能是類似的概念,靈界生物需要消耗它們來維持生存的那種。就像是在某些神話和故事里,靈魂需要攝取人類的強(qiáng)烈情感為食一樣,克萊恩需要的可能就是類似的組成靈界的情感結(jié)晶


Ryo_mancer

"Little" sun finally meets senpai.

“小”太陽終于見到他的前輩了。


julianphang24

The ritual is to fool time, history or fate once. It uses the word "or", meaning Klein only needs to fool one of them, not all of them. Since he already fooled time by being alive in a different era (not sure if that counts though), does that mean he has already done the ritual?

這個(gè)儀式要愚弄時(shí)間,歷史或者命運(yùn)一次。既然用了“或者”這個(gè)詞,也就是說克萊恩只需要愚弄其中之一,不需要全部。既然他已經(jīng)愚弄了時(shí)間一次,因?yàn)樗救司褪巧钤谕耆煌臅r(shí)代的(不知道這算不算就是了),這是不是意味著他已經(jīng)完成了儀式?


Atmaks

The Fool's ritual got me thinking. How do you fool history? By making everyone believe something false. How do you fool fate? By doing something you're not supposed to be able to do. How do you fool time? Uh, don't know about that one. Perhaps, by affecting the future or the past significantly. And what's the perfect way to achieve all three? To resurrect after several thousand years. Now, who's the one threatening to do just that in the nearest future? The Celestial Worthy Heaven and Earth for Blessings. I do realise that, being a Great Old One, he doesn't actually need to advance anywhere, but there could conceivably be a mysterious connection there allowing him to Fool even the dieties and replace Klein. This and the upcoming end of the novel got me mighty worried for our protagonist. Hold me, chat.

這個(gè)愚者的儀式就讓我開始思考了。你要怎么才能愚弄?dú)v史?肯定是通過讓所有人都相信一個(gè)錯(cuò)誤的東西。你要怎么愚弄命運(yùn)?肯定是要做一些你原本不應(yīng)該做的事情。你要怎么愚弄時(shí)間,呃,這個(gè)我就不知道了。也許,可以通過一些劇烈影響未來或者過去的方法。所以哪種方法可以完美實(shí)現(xiàn)以上三者呢?當(dāng)然是在幾千年后重新復(fù)活了?,F(xiàn)在,誰是那個(gè)最有可能在不遠(yuǎn)的將來實(shí)現(xiàn)這一點(diǎn)的威脅呢?福生玄黃天尊。我的確意識(shí)到了,作為一個(gè)舊日,他其實(shí)完全不需要再晉升了,但我們完全可以想見,他通過這種神秘的聯(lián)系,愚弄所有人,甚至神明,然后取代克萊恩的樣子。這個(gè)想法和這本小說將近尾聲的事實(shí)讓我非常非常擔(dān)心我們的主角了。不行了,大家快來點(diǎn)回復(fù),我要暈了


(回復(fù)樓上)Byakuei86

he already fulfill fool the time by hanging in cocoon i think.. that why he use the fool who didn't belong to this era... as fool fate he need to steal identity/fate of other like how Amon do thing..as fool history i really want to see how he achieve that

我覺得他因?yàn)樵诠饫O里吊了這么久已經(jīng)完成了愚弄時(shí)間的儀式……這也是他能使用“不屬于這個(gè)時(shí)代的愚者”名號(hào)的原因……至于愚弄命運(yùn),他得竊取別人的身份/命運(yùn)才行,就像阿蒙做的那樣……至于愚弄?dú)v史,我真的很想看看他要怎么完成這個(gè)


ResidentialPsycho

Big Bro Alger will take care of everything!

老大哥阿爾杰會(huì)搞定所有事情的!


【1292章(倒吊人-26章)初入拜亞姆】——本章說

【戴里克輕輕頷首道: “但這樣便于隱藏自身,不會(huì)太過顯眼,成為別人關(guān)注的焦點(diǎn)?!薄?/p>

ozush

it's not gonna help though

不過這應(yīng)該不會(huì)有什么用


ThisDaddy

says the giant

一個(gè)巨人如是說


【戴里克分析的一點(diǎn)也沒有問題,畢竟他們現(xiàn)在是外來者,且只有那么二十一人,能不引起別人注意,最好就不要引起,但他似乎忘記了一個(gè)關(guān)鍵的細(xì)節(jié)?!?/p>

Shtriya

yeah , bcoz ppl dont get the chance to see pseudo giants everyday afterall ??????

是啊,畢竟人們可不是每天都有機(jī)會(huì)看到半巨人的233333


(回復(fù)樓上)chillytaka

aand they can't speak the local language

而且他們還不會(huì)說當(dāng)?shù)卣Z言


Gamedevil

yup, those "little" details get you every time

沒錯(cuò),每次都是這種“小”細(xì)節(jié)


【他的身高也就160左右,這是當(dāng)前時(shí)代殖民地男性平民們的普遍高度,而白銀城眾人,除了戴里克剛兩米出頭,剩下的平均都在兩米三以上,最高超過了兩米五。】

Skyfiend13

Lol, talk about disguise

哈哈哈,說到偽裝……


Fancy_Swordsman54

tallest man in the world is around 2.7m. That's what google says at least

我們世界最高的人類差不多兩米七。至少谷歌是這么說的


【“弗薩克人?”一個(gè)戴禮帽,穿正裝,拿文明棍的魯恩人側(cè)頭對(duì)同伴道,“奴隸貿(mào)易又開始了嗎?”】

bookoflogos

hahahaha typical John Bull ??

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈不愧是典型約翰牛

【John Bull=直譯就是約翰牛,是對(duì)殖民時(shí)期經(jīng)典英格蘭紳士形象的一個(gè)諷刺性稱呼,類似于美國(guó)的“山姆大叔”。雖然早有這個(gè)綽號(hào),但被用來廣泛形容英格蘭人還是在蘇格蘭作家約翰·阿布斯諾特所出版的諷刺小說《約翰牛的生平》之后。小說主人公約翰牛是一個(gè)頭戴高帽、足蹬長(zhǎng)靴、手持雨傘的矮胖紳士,為人愚笨而且粗暴冷酷、桀驁不遜、欺凌弱小。討論這個(gè)形象的時(shí)候,切莫把英格蘭與蘇格蘭/愛爾蘭混為一談233】


【在弗薩克,雖然沒有明文規(guī)定,但在各行各業(yè),尤其是軍隊(duì)里,都存在以身高定尊卑的現(xiàn)象,當(dāng)然,這不是唯一的條件,還會(huì)綜合家世、爵位、職階等因素?!?/p>

Reptile_Not_Alien

One Piece ; Marines rule is be 10 feet to be admiral kekeke

海賊王里海軍的規(guī)定就是至少要10英尺高才能當(dāng)大將,科科科


【達(dá)尼茲滿意地看了眼這群被拜亞姆繁華場(chǎng)景弄得有點(diǎn)呆住的傻大個(gè),于心里嘀咕了一句: “這還只是拜亞姆,要是去了特里爾、貝克蘭德,你們是不是要跪下來親吻地面?”】

SuperSpecialShumai

really Danitz....

真的嗎達(dá)尼茲……


【這位世界知名的大海盜控制住了自己嘲諷的沖動(dòng),因?yàn)樗F(xiàn)在是“愚者”先生的使者,不能敗壞了神靈的形象?!?/p>

Tetractys

World famous, eh? ??????

世界知名,哈?


Shtriya

lord dani ur past is also not a good thing for god image??????

達(dá)尼大人,你過去的光輝歷史對(duì)于神明的光輝形象來說可能不是件好事呢23333


Frosty_Wings

I wonder how high his bounty is now

不知道他現(xiàn)在的賞金有多高了


(回復(fù)樓上)chillytaka

it... probably got nullified, I mean he walked out of the Storm Chruch with his head intact, no ?

它……應(yīng)該清空了吧,我的意思是,他可是從風(fēng)暴教堂走了出來,而且腦袋還是完好的一顆,不是嗎?


【鐵路……在塔羅會(huì)上補(bǔ)過課的戴里克知道這意味著什么,感激地點(diǎn)了點(diǎn)頭,再次于心中贊美起“愚者”先生?!?/p>

markl_ryushokan

Good anchor *pat pat*

是個(gè)好錨*拍拍*


【羅思德新政府剛建立沒多久,和外界的各種聯(lián)系都還不夠通暢,而讓他們想不到的是,在白銀城這件事情上,風(fēng)暴教會(huì)竟然主動(dòng)提供了幫助?!?/p>

Sarnik

Klein’s relationship with the Lord of Storms certainly is interesting.

克萊恩和風(fēng)暴之主之間的關(guān)系還真是有意思。


(回復(fù)樓上)Zarivon

Nothing to do with Leodoro... It's Alger's doing.

和列奧多羅沒關(guān)系……這是阿爾杰做的。


(回復(fù)一樓)Heaven_Bridge

that love-hate relationship *wink wink*

這是相愛相殺的關(guān)系~*瘋狂眨眼*


(回復(fù)一樓)CenserBearer

Nuke-calling relationship

是天天呼叫核打擊的關(guān)系


(回復(fù)一樓)Skyfiend13

He's called stormbro for a reason! ?????

他被稱為風(fēng)暴老哥可是有原因的!


【說到這里,達(dá)尼茲笑了笑道: “這條街道的盡頭右拐,就是‘紅劇場(chǎng)’……”】

Shtriya

lord dani?? , u r going off road ya know ??

達(dá)尼大人,你知道你現(xiàn)在車已經(jīng)開到路外邊了嗎


zcorpio

Don't corrupt little sun! ??

不要帶壞我們小太陽!


Hopehard

they don't have money anyway

他們反正也沒錢


【真是的,大帝說過,人類最古老的職業(yè)就是出賣自己的身體,他們竟然不知道我在說什么……達(dá)尼茲嘴角微有抽動(dòng),放棄了這方面的話題。】

Nogardnoir

of course not. do you even understand what kind of conditions they were living in ?

當(dāng)然不知道了。你到底有沒有理解他們是生活在什么樣的條件下???


【“每一張卡片上都有一些本地文字和對(duì)應(yīng)的巨人語單詞,你們需要什么服務(wù)或者食物,就拉響這里的鈴鐺,讓侍者過來,把卡片給他看,當(dāng)然,他們未必看得懂,但肯定會(huì)去找看得懂的人幫忙?!薄?/p>

faimherb

rofl bad move Danitz ?????? they're gonna eat you out of house and home; can you afford their dining at this expensive hotel for all 21 City of Silver residents

哈哈哈哈哈我笑死了,這招可是臭棋啊達(dá)尼茲23333他們會(huì)把你的房子和家整個(gè)吃空掉的,你能負(fù)擔(dān)得起這所有21個(gè)白銀城人的伙食嗎?還是在這家昂貴的旅店里?


【而這些事物將組成他們新的生活?!?/p>

markl_ryushokan

You got 10 years guys, have fun~

你們有十年的時(shí)間,好好享受吧~


IGulpAir

So hAppy for them but too bad yhe mushrooms didn't have that much screentime, lol.

真是為他們開心,但那個(gè)蘑菇?jīng)]能出鏡實(shí)在太可惜了,23333


【1292章(倒吊人-26章)初入拜亞姆】

Chef_C

Good thing Cuttlefish didn’t implement the head-exploding gimmick in this like he did in Throne of the Magical Arcana otherwise there’d be a lot of headless corpses. For those who haven’t read Cuttlefish’s other book in it when a mage gets there understanding of magic/science overturned and their metaphorically mind blown their head literally explodes if they’re not able to accept the new ideas or theories. It’s kinda funny in a really dark way, especially when it hAppens to an antagonist.

還好烏賊沒有像在《奧術(shù)王座》一樣,加入那個(gè)爆頭設(shè)定,不然現(xiàn)在地上肯定一堆無頭尸體。對(duì)于那些沒看過烏賊其他的書的人,我簡(jiǎn)單介紹一下,每當(dāng)一個(gè)法師對(duì)于魔法/科學(xué)的理解被顛覆的時(shí)候,他們立刻會(huì)炸裂,我不是在比喻三觀炸裂,是真的腦袋炸裂,如果他們不能接受這些新思想或者理論的話。這真的是種相當(dāng)黑色的幽默,特別是發(fā)生在對(duì)手身上的時(shí)候。


(回復(fù)樓上)Marukusius

Lol, yup the church would always debate if Lucien is a saint or a sinner because of that gimmick.

哈哈哈哈,沒錯(cuò),而且每次教會(huì)都會(huì)為路西恩到底是個(gè)圣徒還是罪人而爭(zhēng)論不休,就是因?yàn)檫@個(gè)爆頭的噱頭。


(回復(fù)一樓)Zarivon

You're actually recommending Throne of Magical Arcana? I started reading it because LoTM is so good, but I'm 500 chaps in and it's really bad. It was his first web novel, sure, but I wouldn't recommend it. A whole lot of time spent describing the MC plagiarizing/reproducing music/science like he actually accomplished anything himself.

你真的是認(rèn)真在推薦《奧術(shù)王座》這本書嗎?我因?yàn)樵幟靥每淳团苋タ戳诉@本書,但500章左右我就覺得實(shí)在太糟糕了。這是他的第一本網(wǎng)文,是的我理解,但我還是不會(huì)推薦它。一大堆時(shí)間都花在描寫主角是怎么抄襲/復(fù)制那些音樂作品/科學(xué)作品上,就好像他自己真的做出了這些東西似的。


(回復(fù)樓上)elm_in_eden

Cuttlefish's works tend to Appeal to non-mainstream audiences, Lord of the Mysteries not as much, but the rest of his are pretty niche. Doesn't mean they're not well written, and the ones who enjoy them will enjoy them endlessly!

烏賊的書傾向于吸引那些非主流的觀眾,詭秘沒那么明顯,但他其他的書都非常小眾。不是說它們寫的不好,喜歡的人會(huì)非常享受的!


(回復(fù)三樓)BurntCabbage

Then you'd probably hate this novel if Roselle was the protagonist instead since he pretty much plagiarized everything over. Though I wouldn't say Throne of Magical Arcana is that bad, just not as good as LoTM. And even if Lucien copied all those works, you can't really say he accomplished nothing himself. It still takes a lot of skill and intelligence to understand how to adapt and reproduce all that music and science for his new world.

那你可能會(huì)討厭詭秘的,如果羅塞爾是詭秘的主角的話。畢竟他幾乎抄盡了所有的東西。不過我不會(huì)說奧術(shù)王座有那么不好,只是沒有詭秘這么好。而且即使是路西恩抄了這些東西,你也不能說他自己什么事情都沒有做成。對(duì)她來說,要理解如何在這個(gè)新世界應(yīng)用和復(fù)制那些音樂和科學(xué)作品也是需要很多技巧和思考的。


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

Well said. And Lucien was even careful, avoiding any assumptions that things would work just as they did on earth till he proved it.

說得好。而且路西恩已經(jīng)很小心了,他一直在避免直接認(rèn)定事情就和他之前在地球上的完全一致,直到他自己證明出來。


(回復(fù)五樓)Real_spam_bot

I think the point is to describe the advancement of science in a thrilling and exciting way which it succeeds in my opinion. Also the fact that he deeply understands all these things and actually makes experiments to confirm them shows that he’s actually a good scientist. Later on he even diverges from the theory’s of earth to try to explain magic, and even solves unique conundrums of the world. He helps adapt technology from earth into a magical version, and he does write an original opera. I see how you are put off by the fact that many of his achievements aren’t entirely his own, but if you ignore that and focus on how he used the knowledge to improve his own power as well as the advancements of science that somewhat mirror the real world you might enjoy it.

我覺得重點(diǎn)其實(shí)是用一種令人激動(dòng),心潮澎湃的方式描寫出科技的進(jìn)步。而且,他深入理解了這些東西,而且還自己做了實(shí)驗(yàn)來確認(rèn)這些理論,這已經(jīng)展示了他本人其實(shí)就是個(gè)厲害的科學(xué)家的事實(shí)了。之后他甚至還偏離了地球已有的理論,試圖解釋魔法,甚至還解決了這個(gè)世界上才存在的獨(dú)有的難題。他把地球上的科技改造成了魔法版本,而且還寫了自己的原創(chuàng)劇目。我知道你對(duì)路西恩的很多成就都不完全是他自己做出來的這一點(diǎn)感到很崩潰,但如果你放下這一點(diǎn),專注于他使用這些知識(shí)來增強(qiáng)自己的力量還有促使科技進(jìn)步的方式的話(尤其是很多在某種意義上也反映了現(xiàn)實(shí)世界的進(jìn)步),你可能會(huì)喜歡它的。


(回復(fù)三樓)ResidentialPsycho

I really like Throne of Magical Arcana. Even if Lord of the Mysteries is Better, Throne of Magical Arcana is still one of the best novels on this site. It certainly has its translation quirks (the term "assassinator" has marred it forever), but it also shows a lot about the environment and music. It's great to see a series that isn't focused solely on action.

我真的很喜歡奧術(shù)王座。即使詭秘之主的確寫得更好,奧術(shù)王座依然是這個(gè)網(wǎng)站上最好的小說之一。它顯然有很多翻譯上的問題(“刺客”這個(gè)詞的翻譯永遠(yuǎn)玷污了它),但它也同樣展示了很多環(huán)境和音樂上的描寫。我很高興能看到一本不是只專注于打戲的書。


(回復(fù)樓上)ResidentialPsycho

Almost forgot the lesbian warrior princess, Natasha. Can't forget her.

差點(diǎn)忘了蕾絲公主戰(zhàn)士,娜塔莎。非常難忘的角色。


Tetractys

It must be so dream-like for Derrick and the others to experience this scene. I'm genuinely hAppy for them. They've finally started down the path of freedom from the dark. Praise The Fool!

對(duì)于戴里克和其他人來說,這一幕肯定就像做夢(mèng)一樣。我真是為他們開心。他們終于走上了擺脫黑暗的自由之路。贊美愚者!


ThisDaddy

The expressions and feelings of citizens of city of silver has been caught very genuinely

這段白銀城人的表現(xiàn)和感受的描寫真是抓得非常妙


maevalily

Just imagining the meeting of Derrick and Xio ??????

想象一下戴里克和休見面的樣子23333

【弔圖】


【1293章(倒吊人-27章)惡魔油畫】

Tetractys

I think that's the fastest anyone has ever completed a demigod ritual so far. What was that? Less than 10 seconds?

我覺得這應(yīng)該是所有完成半神儀式的人里面最快的一個(gè)了吧。這得多久?。?0秒鐘之內(nèi)?


(回復(fù)樓上)All_Night

When you get carried by your overleveled teammates. ??

這就是你被一隊(duì)滿級(jí)大佬一起帶的樣子。23333


(回復(fù)樓上)BluebellBerry

Clearly learning well from Klein on this aspect ???? I swear Klein is only second to Song Shuhang from Cultivation Chat Group when it comes to the Senior Summoning skill ??

顯然在這方面跟克萊恩學(xué)得挺好23333我說真的,克萊恩在召喚老司機(jī)帶帶我的技能方面,僅次于休閑聊天群的宋書航~


(回復(fù)一樓)Dex2

Yeah ????. It went like: - open the painting and the creature jumps out - lock it in a barrier with a small entrance - slow time hence pausing momentum - put painting on opening - time resumes, creature crashes into the seal, gets sealed.

沒錯(cuò)2333大概經(jīng)過就是這樣的:打開油畫之后,怪物跳了出來——把它縮進(jìn)一個(gè)只有小小入口的障礙里——使用時(shí)間流速減慢,然后就制造了一種時(shí)停的感覺——把畫放在門口——時(shí)間流速恢復(fù),然后怪物一頭扎進(jìn)了封印,就封印成功了。


(回復(fù)一樓)KriShna_Gurung

It depends on situation audrey didn't have to do anything as well . Klein had to kill a demigod as a seq.5

這個(gè)也分人吧,奧黛麗之前也基本上啥都不用做啊??巳R恩序列5的時(shí)候可是必須得殺個(gè)半神呢。


(回復(fù)一樓)MadThelric

Yes, but very stressful ??

是很短,但也非常緊張~


(回復(fù)一樓)ResidentialPsycho

She made it look so easy.

只是因?yàn)樗憩F(xiàn)得舉重若輕而已。


Chef_C

Woot!!! This just leaves Xio and all the main Tarot Club members will be demigods. Wonder if Klein will come out as a “l(fā)egitimate” organization any time soon. I mean he has the Church of Evernight to back him up and it’s possible the some of the other churches would too in order to prepare for the apocalypse. Klein’s pathway doesn’t overlap with any of the orthodox deities pathways after all so they would feel threatened by him and might just okay with another church popping up.

什么?。?!這樣的話除了休以外所有的塔羅會(huì)主要成員都要成半神了。不知道克萊恩會(huì)不會(huì)馬上就要以“合法”組織的身份在世界上亮相了。我的意思是,他背后有黑夜教會(huì)撐腰,而且其他教會(huì)很可能也會(huì)支持他,為了準(zhǔn)備即將到來的世界末日。畢竟克萊恩的途徑和其他任何正神教會(huì)的神明都不相鄰,所以他們不會(huì)視他為威脅,而且對(duì)新教會(huì)的出現(xiàn)也可能沒什么意見。


Kelicnite

listen to Mr Door? whats that? a suicide request? hasn't Klein already determined that the moon holds the most terrifying cosmos?

去聽門先生在說什么?這是在干嘛?讓她去自殺?克萊恩不是已經(jīng)確定了月亮上有一個(gè)最可怕的舊日了嗎?


(回復(fù)樓上)Kelicnite

that and he suspects the gods themselves sealed Mr Door due to him being corrupted and powerful

他懷疑是神明們自己封印了門先生,因?yàn)樗晃廴玖?,卻又那么強(qiáng)大


BluebellBerry

Late and off topic but Dorian sensei is definitely that Dorian Gray from A Picture/Portrait of Dorian Gray... No lie that book messed me up good in middle school. I blame my emo phase on that and Paramore xD wtf are schools making kids read?! They should be glad I'm not a sociopath!

這篇留言有點(diǎn)遲了,也有點(diǎn)跑題,但多利安老師絕對(duì)是《多利安·格雷的畫像》中的多利安·格雷……真不開玩笑,這本書在我中學(xué)的時(shí)候可是把我影響得不輕。我那會(huì)各種青春期叛逆和感傷全都怪這本書和paramore XD學(xué)校到底都讓小孩讀的什么書啊?!我沒變成反社會(huì)他們真該慶幸!

【《多利安·格雷的畫像》,奧斯卡·王爾德出版的唯一一本小說。Paramore=我傾向于認(rèn)為是帕拉摩爾樂隊(duì)】


【1294章(倒吊人-28章)對(duì)話】——本章說

【那一點(diǎn)點(diǎn)純凈的星輝與夜空里的不同星辰產(chǎn)生了無形的聯(lián)系,隨著那些光芒的閃爍,它們扭曲著,蠕動(dòng)著,蟲豸一樣鉆出了佛爾思的身體,想要投奔那條細(xì)碎鉆石鑲成般的銀河?!?/p>

Observer98

Welcome to the worm club.

歡迎加入蠕蟲俱樂部。


【與此同時(shí),“門”的另外一邊,被封印的那個(gè)恐怖生物似乎感應(yīng)到了仇敵的氣息,利用自身的神性,瘋狂地侵蝕起那虛幻之“門”,這恰好與外界星空對(duì)佛爾思的影響抵消。】

Reptile_Not_Alien

damnn, the reasons intertwine well

我去,這些因果交織得真不錯(cuò)


【它在求救!】

Crow60

It's a trap

這是個(gè)陷阱


【——那不是巨人語,也非精靈語和古赫密斯語,而是一種佛爾思從未接觸過的語言,但她一聽就能聽懂,只覺這像是當(dāng)前許多語言真正的源頭。】

faimherb

a pre First Epoch language?

第一紀(jì)之前的語言?


(回復(fù)樓上)AdventWalrus

probably English

也許是英語呢


Kioga

That must be the Blasphemy Slate language, which extra confirms the obvious, Mr Door either knows a lot about the cosmos, or has been hella corrupted by it. Hard to know considering the pathway he, or rather, 'He' is.

這肯定是褻瀆石板上寫的語言,這也額外證實(shí)了一個(gè)消息,那就是門先生顯然是對(duì)星空有許多了解,要么就是已經(jīng)被特么污染了??紤]到他,或者說“祂“的途徑,這一點(diǎn)很難確認(rèn)了。


PillGrandCreator

English

英語


【“門”先生每當(dāng)滿月就瘋狂地喊“救命”,簡(jiǎn)直是天使之王里的恥辱……不過,哪怕祂是在求助,對(duì)我來說,也是難以承受的恐怖……佛爾思腹誹了兩句,思考著是假裝沒聽到,等初步收斂了靈性,掌握了“秘法師”的非凡能力,于下次滿月再和“門”先生對(duì)話,還是現(xiàn)在就做一定的交流。】

Gamedevil

The Tarot Club is definately mutating into the Lampoon Club

塔羅會(huì)絕對(duì)是在逐漸變成吐槽會(huì)吧


【……我要把你寫進(jìn)書里!佛爾思暗咬了一下牙齒,開口詢問道:? “尊敬的‘門’先生,您是亞伯拉罕家族的先祖,伯特利殿下嗎?”】

Jay_Crew10

He's going to be the villain.

他肯定要被寫成反派了。


【“一個(gè)正常的天使,即使能自由地行走于地上,做自己喜歡的事情,不需要進(jìn)行額外的戰(zhàn)斗,也有可能逐漸被非凡特性影響,變得不像自己,甚至出現(xiàn)半瘋的情況,我一個(gè)被放逐被封印一千多年,連交流對(duì)象都沒有的天使之王,沒有全瘋已經(jīng)說明我足夠強(qiáng)大和幸運(yùn)?!?/p>

Bubba970

It means you *are* crazy, and the fact you seem sane means you must be dangerous in a very special way. Given what we now know about the foreign gods, your corruption must truly be something special. Odd that the Evernight hasn't done or said anything about this, though. You'd think she'd be more concerned about a crazy god in Klien's pathway, after what hAppened to Ross.

那這正好意味著你*已經(jīng)*瘋狂了,你現(xiàn)在看起來似乎很理智的樣子反而正說明了你肯定在某種意義上極度危險(xiǎn)?;谖覀兡壳皩?duì)外神的了解,對(duì)你的污染肯定也是很特別的那種。奇怪的是,黑夜竟然沒提到過這件事,或者插手做些什么。畢竟在羅斯城的事情之后,大家都覺得她可能會(huì)很在意克萊恩的相關(guān)途徑出現(xiàn)一個(gè)瘋狂的神明。


(回復(fù)樓上)Damick

she was the one who sealed him. I don't remember who helped her, I think it was the Lord of the Storms. She also sealed Zaratul and the half-fool and has always been paying attention to Amon. She has clearly acted to avoid a god to be born in those three pathways for thousands of years, awaiting for a good candidate that could ascend to lord of the mysteries. Since it is implied that she is from the cocoons in sefirah castle, she probably knows that someone from her time would Appear eventually and take a potion of one of the three pathways and control sefirah castle, thus she is klein's

她就是那個(gè)封印了他的人啊。我不記得還有誰幫她一起了,感覺應(yīng)該是風(fēng)暴之主。她還封印了查拉圖,還有半個(gè)愚者,而且一直很關(guān)注阿蒙的動(dòng)向。她顯然為了避免這三條途徑出現(xiàn)真神已經(jīng)做了幾千年的準(zhǔn)備,就等著一個(gè)能晉升詭秘之主的好人選。既然已經(jīng)暗示過了她也是來自源堡光繭的,那她也許能知道她那個(gè)時(shí)代的人最后一定會(huì)出現(xiàn),成為這三條途徑的一份子,最終控制源堡,所以她選克萊恩


【原來是這樣……如果我也被這么關(guān)起來,可能幾個(gè)月就瘋了……呃,如果能提供酒精飲料、報(bào)紙雜志、各種圖書、不同美食,我可以撐一年,不,半年……佛爾思有所恍然地點(diǎn)了點(diǎn)頭,相當(dāng)敷衍地問道:“有什么能為您做的嗎?亞伯拉罕們又該怎樣才能消除詛咒?”】

Ozwin

2020 would like to challenge this claim.

雖然想法很好,但……2020:接受挑戰(zhàn)。


【“門”先生笑了笑道: “如果我能因此脫困,我會(huì)幫助你成為天使……”】

Orabeoni

ofc you will, you will need her in the future ??????.

呵呵你當(dāng)然會(huì)這么干啦,你將來會(huì)需要她的。


BreakBreakBreak

r u another Nigerian prince?

你就是傳說中的尼日利亞王子?

【尼日利亞王子這個(gè)也是經(jīng)典梗了,其實(shí)就是我們說的“我,秦始皇,打錢”梗。國(guó)外也有很多人信這種“借我xxx錢,等我回去把錢拿回來,必有重謝”的套路】


Gamedevil

I can also sell you the Eiffel tower for a bargain price, just sign on the dotted line. ......

我也能折扣價(jià)賣你埃菲爾鐵塔呢,你只要在這條虛線上面簽個(gè)字……


【不過,這幕場(chǎng)景徹底淡化前,佛爾思透過它們,隱約看見了一片深紅巖石組成的廣袤大地,看見那里屹立著一個(gè)類似金字塔的古老建筑,看見那建筑的后方,黑暗深邃,星辰閃爍,與自己這“占星人”在地上所見的星空截然不同?!?/p>

ozush

wait, could it be Roselle's last mausoleum?

等等,這會(huì)不會(huì)是羅塞爾的最后一座陵寢?


(回復(fù)樓上)jckars

No. The pyramids of the emperor have to be built by he's subjects

不是?;实鄣牧陮嫳仨毜檬撬某济駛兘ㄔ斓牟判?。


(回復(fù)樓上)ozush

but what else could a pyramid signify? plus it's not like it's absolutely impossible to find other solutions. seer pathway's higher sequences can fool fate/time itself, I don't think knowledge emperor has to be any worse?

但金字塔還能代表什么呢?而且找一些別的方法來解決也不是絕對(duì)不可能。占卜家途徑的高序列本人還能愚弄命運(yùn)/時(shí)間呢,我不覺得知識(shí)皇帝在這方面會(huì)比他們差?


(回復(fù)一樓)Damick

it gives me the impression that this place is other planet. Since the advancement of Apprenttice pathway requires travelling the cosmos and creating legends, there might be monuments built for him. Perhaps he is sealed in one of them, like roselle is possibly at his last mausoleum. Since Apprenttice can use any beyonder powers, who knows what he is capable of

這個(gè)場(chǎng)景給我一種不存在于地球上的感覺。因?yàn)閷W(xué)徒途徑的晉升要求是在星空中旅行,還要?jiǎng)?chuàng)造傳說,那這個(gè)金字塔就有可能是為他建的紀(jì)念碑。也許他就被封印在其中一個(gè)這樣的地方,就像羅塞爾很可能就在他最后一個(gè)陵寢中一樣。既然學(xué)徒能使用任何非凡者的能力,誰知道他能做到什么程度呢


(回復(fù)樓上)Reptile_Not_Alien

well, there's only one planet that's red

嗯,只有一個(gè)星球是紅色的呢


【他終于教出了一位沒有反叛的序列4“秘法師”?!?/p>

bookoflogos

how hard ??

太艱難了233333


Randompasserby

my sympathies old man, that's gotta be rough

我真是同情這個(gè)老人,這一切肯定很艱苦


Terrorofthedeath

You guys really suck at choosing people with decent characters.

你們?cè)谔羧说难酃馍峡烧媸遣吮?,一個(gè)正經(jīng)人都挑不出


【“不要救我……不要救我……”】

Redwinter

Oh ****

哦我x


Randompasserby

frick, poor Roselle got suckered by this corrupted bastard then ??

我x,那可憐的羅塞爾是被這個(gè)被污染的混蛋騙了


bill123burns

So Mr Door is shouting "don't save me." The outer deity is altering/mimicking the transmission to "save me" to try to entice others to come. Unfortunately, among those enticed by the outer deity posing as Me Door is Roselle who was unknowingly corrupted.

所以門先生喊的其實(shí)是“不要救我”。外神把他傳出去的聲音修改了/模仿了,變成了“救我”,并且試圖引誘別人過來。不幸的是,那些被外神假裝的門先生吸引過來的人里,就有羅塞爾一個(gè),而且他也被無意識(shí)地污染了。


test124

"Floop is a madman, help us, save us"

“暗黑破壞王瘋了,救救我們,救救我們”

【Floop=Fegan Floop,費(fèi)根·暗黑破壞王(不知道為什么譯成這個(gè)),電影《特務(wù)小子》里的反派】


(回復(fù)樓上)MrLongo2

"I get this reference.jpg"

“我知道你用的哪個(gè)表情包.jpg”


(回復(fù)一樓)Jak0b

Haven't watched that in a while.

好久沒看了。


ThisDaddy

what the ****? so until now, we were being fooled by mother tree of depravity.

Wtf?所以直到剛才我們都被墮落母樹給騙了?


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

Mother tree captured Chained god but Mother goddess, the one who is also Primordial moon is the one who is occupying the moon so she is the one who likely did the shenanigans with Mr. Door

母樹抓了被縛之神,但沒抓住母神,也就是原初月亮,她也是現(xiàn)在占據(jù)了月亮的哪個(gè),所以她很可能就是對(duì)門先生施下了所有陰謀的人。


Frosty_Wings

Oh damn. Someone needs to kill em to end his suffering..

哦我去。得來個(gè)人殺了他,終結(jié)他的痛苦……


Shtriya

damn evernight and storm god did dirty to him .

我去,黑夜和暴風(fēng)對(duì)他都做了什么啊。


(回復(fù)樓上)Bone_God

Or they sealed him cuz he was already corrupted ??

有沒有可能他們只是封印了他,因?yàn)樗呀?jīng)被污染了呢(白眼)


lostwingman

Its a fraud yelling!

所以這是欺詐電話!


【1294章(倒吊人-28章)對(duì)話】

TomoyaNagase

We can be pretty sure that the one asking not to be saved is the real Mr. Door and not the other one. The reason is pretty simple, the corrupted one obviously is interested in getting out and messing with the world to help the primordial moon. I don't see any reason anyone would want to be permanently imprisoned aside from trying to old back some monster. The other hint is that only the one who is asking to be saved is offering enticing rewards to people. The sane part of Mr. Door is probably on purpose sending out those cries to make high ranking members of his family go mad as to prevent them from being able to reach the demigod realm and communicate with his corrupted side which could end up freeing this monster he has turned into.

我們現(xiàn)在可以完全確信的是,說不要救我的那個(gè)才是真正的門先生,另外一個(gè)是假的。原因很簡(jiǎn)單,被污染的那個(gè)顯然會(huì)想出去,把整個(gè)世界搞得天下大亂,好幫助原始月亮。一個(gè)人會(huì)想要永遠(yuǎn)被囚禁在外面,對(duì)此我實(shí)在是想不出除了“把某些怪物束縛住”之外的理由。門先生的理智面可能是故意對(duì)他家族里高序列的成員們發(fā)送那些呼救的,讓他們瘋掉,以此阻止他們抵達(dá)半神層次,也能阻止他們和他被污染的那一面進(jìn)行聯(lián)絡(luò),以免把他變成的那個(gè)怪物放出去。


Aby55

If Roselle was corrupted by the moon then Mr. Door definitely got corrupted. Maybe he's a trap and only during the ravings he is his old self/lucid. Or maybe he is in the throes of "ecstasy" under the influence of the moon and thats when he doesnt want to be saved. Idk which is worse

如果羅塞爾被月亮污染了,那門先生絕對(duì)已經(jīng)被污染了。也許他就是個(gè)陷阱,只在他囈語的時(shí)候,他才是原本的自己/清醒的?;蛘咭苍S他現(xiàn)在正在月亮的影響下,處于“亢奮”狀態(tài),這也是他不想要被救出去的原因。不知道哪種可能性算是更糟。


(回復(fù)樓上)ThisDaddy

How do we know if it's the real Mr. Door one is listening to, asking for all those rituals

我們?cè)趺粗纼A聽和回應(yīng)這些儀式的就是真正的門先生呢。


(回復(fù)一樓)BreakBreakBreak

dude I noticed a trap in your comment

哥們,我發(fā)現(xiàn)你的評(píng)論里提到了“偽娘”(陷阱)


Seion_Ozora

Dont save... so you r a good guy after all Mr. Door O_o

不要救我……所以你終究還是個(gè)好人啊門先生O_o


(回復(fù)樓上)Mapaglarong_Haraya

A rational person with a heart won't bear the consequences of losing all his loved ones because of his wrong doings..

一個(gè)心中有情,且有理性的人是承受不了因?yàn)樽约鹤鲥e(cuò)了事情而失去了所有摯愛親人的后果的……


BurntCabbage

Does the madness brought about by the full moon have something to do with the Mother Goddess of Depravity being on "Her" period?

是不是滿月帶來的瘋狂和墮落母神來“姨媽”有點(diǎn)關(guān)系啊?


(回復(fù)樓上)Damick

Thats.... very possible

這還……真挺可能的


(回復(fù)一樓)SomePeasant

Oh no... This sounds more plausible than I want to admit

哦不……這個(gè)想法聽起來很有說服力,但我并不那么想承認(rèn)


Tetractys

Bethel Abraham definitely shows signs of madness and lucidity. However, can we know for sure when he is crazy and when he is sane? How can we tell if the 'sane' Mr. Door we're communicating with isn't already in a crazed state?

伯特利·亞伯拉罕絕對(duì)展現(xiàn)出了某些瘋狂和清醒的征兆。但是,我們現(xiàn)在真的能確定他什么時(shí)候是瘋狂的,什么時(shí)候是清醒的嗎?我們要怎么判斷正在與我們交流的這個(gè)門先生是“理智”的,而不是已經(jīng)進(jìn)入瘋狂狀態(tài)了?


(回復(fù)樓上)Chef_C

Bethel Abraham is probably in a weird state where he was corrupted by an Outer Deity and went half-crazy than the part of him that was still sane somehow managed to seal himself to prevent the spread of the damage. The crazy part of him affected by the Outer Deity is trying to get people to release the seal via the “curse” on the Abraham family but the sane part of him is still sending the true message of not to release him which causes a conflicting message that makes the low sequence Abraham family to lose control preventing them from managing anything. Maybe Klein will be able to figure out a way to separate Bethel from the Moon or whatever corrupted him. Even if he doesn’t survive his characteristics could be passed down to Fors and considering that the Apprentice pathway is tied to the Sefirah Castle she could very well become Klein/The Fool’s first subsidiary god.

伯特利·亞伯拉罕可能處于一種奇怪的狀態(tài),他被一個(gè)外神污染了,變成了半瘋狀態(tài),而他依然清醒的那部分卻設(shè)法成功把自己封印了起來,防止了污染的擴(kuò)散。他被外神影響的瘋狂面正在試圖通過亞伯拉罕家族的“詛咒”吸引外人來解開封印,但他的理智面依然在向外界傳遞正確的信息,希望不要把他放出去,這就導(dǎo)致了兩種信息的沖突,這也讓亞伯拉罕家族的低序列失控,導(dǎo)致他們什么也做不了。也許克萊恩能找到一種辦法,把伯特利和月亮或者別的什么污染他的東西分離開。即使他沒能活下來,他的特性也能傳下去,給佛爾斯,考慮到學(xué)徒途徑是源堡相關(guān)的途徑,她也很可能會(huì)成為克萊恩/愚者的第一個(gè)從神。


(回復(fù)樓上)Baewha_Main

i think it's the opposite actually. i think the raving one that's saying "dont save me" is the real Mr door, and the one that fors just talked to is an outer diety.

我和你想的恰恰相反,我覺得囈語“不要救我”的那個(gè)是真正的門先生,佛爾斯剛剛對(duì)話的那個(gè)才是外神。


SaintBookwormLich

?? Wow, that was a not so unexpected yet still surprising revelation...

哇哦,最后這個(gè)揭示真相雖然不能說是毫無預(yù)料,但依然很令人震驚……

詭秘外國(guó)網(wǎng)友評(píng)論節(jié)選意譯 - 【1291-1294】【含本章說的評(píng)論 (共 條)

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