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- And the master raised his finger and said,

- 并且禪師豎起他的手指說(shuō)到，

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"Enter zen from there from here."

“從那里（這里）入禪。”

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Every point is...

每個(gè)點(diǎn)都是。。。

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These things cannot be explained,

這些不能被解釋，

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that you spoil them if you explain them.

否則它們會(huì)被你糟蹋掉。

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I've just explained it unfortunately.

糟糕的是我剛剛就是在解釋。

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(audience laughing)

（觀眾的笑聲）

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(screen dinging)

（叮）

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Do you remember the story I recounted I believe

你們是否還記得應(yīng)該是在《新世界》中的

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in "A New Earth?"

一個(gè)故事？

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The story of a zen master who is on a pilgrimage.

那是一個(gè)關(guān)于一位禪師進(jìn)行朝圣之旅的故事。

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That's the ancient word for a hike.

朝圣是遠(yuǎn)足的古語(yǔ)

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(audience laughing)

（觀眾的笑聲）

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He's on a pilgrimage somewhere with a disciple.

他正在進(jìn)行朝圣之旅，有一個(gè)信徒跟著他。

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And so they're walking in silence, of course,

當(dāng)然，他們一路無(wú)言，

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except, of course, the disciple hasn't quite arrived yet

除了這個(gè)信徒還沒(méi)有到達(dá)

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at the realization that zen aims at.

察覺(jué)到禪的旨意的境界。

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So the disciple is walking

因此這個(gè)信徒走著，

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but obviously thinking while he's walking.

顯然一路上他產(chǎn)生了很多念頭。

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Finally, they sit down somewhere for a little picnic,

終于，他們?cè)谀硞€(gè)地方坐下來(lái)吃點(diǎn)東西

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a break, and then the disciple says to the master,

休息一下，然后信徒對(duì)禪師說(shuō)道，

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"Master, I've been thinking.

“大師，我一直在想。

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I still don't get it.

但是我仍然沒(méi)明白。

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I've been here for five years

我來(lái)這里已經(jīng)有五年了。

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and I still don't get what is the essence of what you teach?

但是我仍然沒(méi)明白您所教內(nèi)容的精髓。

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What is that essence?

精髓是什么？

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I just can't get.

我不明白。

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I've trying to figure it out but I can't."

我試著弄清楚但是我做不到。

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And the master said,

禪師說(shuō)到，

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"Can you hear the sound

“你能聽(tīng)到山間小溪

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of that mountain stream, that little?"

的聲音嗎？

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And the disciple said, "What mountain stream?

信徒說(shuō)到，“什么山間小溪？

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I don't hear anything."

我沒(méi)聽(tīng)到任何聲音?！?/p>

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The master said, "Listen carefully."

禪師說(shuō)到，“仔細(xì)聽(tīng)。”

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And so the disciple goes, and then in the very far distance,

信徒就繼續(xù)聽(tīng)，然后在非常遙遠(yuǎn)的地方，

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the disciple hears the sound of water,

他聽(tīng)到了流水聲，

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of a little mountain stream, very distant.

來(lái)自非常遙遠(yuǎn)的山間小溪。

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And then the disciple says,

然后信徒說(shuō)到，

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"Yeah, I can hear it now, master."

“現(xiàn)在我聽(tīng)到了，大師?！?/p>

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And the master says,

然后禪師說(shuō)了大概這樣的話：

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something like "That is the portal

“這就是入禪的法門。”

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into zen or there is the beginning of zen.

或者是“禪就是從那里開(kāi)始。

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That's it. That's it."

就是如此，就是如此。”

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And for a moment,

不久。。。

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I don't know how long, the disciple actually gets it.

我不知道過(guò)了多久，信徒悟到了。

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Wow.

哇。

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And he gets it because his mind stops and awareness remains.

他悟到了是因?yàn)樗男闹峭Ｖ沽耍X(jué)察保留了下來(lái)。

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And why did that happen?

為什么會(huì)這樣呢？

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Because all his consciousness,

因?yàn)樗乃幸庾R(shí)，

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conscious attention was required

注意力被感官知覺(jué)所占用了，

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for the sensory, in this case, auditory perception.

在這個(gè)例子里是聽(tīng)覺(jué)。

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There wasn't enough left so to speak

可以這么說(shuō)，沒(méi)有足夠的注意力

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to be consumed by thinking.

讓念頭使用了。

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So there was a cessation of thinking

所以思維停止了，

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and arising of presence.

臨在浮現(xiàn)了。

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The master very cleverly arranged it, I mean, in that way

大師很聰明地回答了這個(gè)問(wèn)題，

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rather than saying stop thinking, which wouldn't work.

而不是直接說(shuō)停止思考，這樣不會(huì)起作用。

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So the disciple got it.

因此信徒領(lǐng)悟了。

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In some versions, there's a continuation of the story.

在其他版本中，這個(gè)故事還有后續(xù)。

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So they finish their picnic, they walk on

他們吃完了，繼續(xù)上路。

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and an hour later, by then the disciple has fallen back

一個(gè)小時(shí)后，信徒又回到了

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into a stream of useless thinking, of course.

無(wú)盡的無(wú)用思考當(dāng)中。

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And the disciple says, "I have another question, master.

這個(gè)信徒說(shuō)到，“我還有另外一個(gè)問(wèn)題，大師。

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What would you have said

如果我沒(méi)有聽(tīng)到山間小溪的聲音，

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if I hadn't been able to hear that mountain stream?

您該如何應(yīng)對(duì)？

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What would you have said then?"

您會(huì)怎么說(shuō)？”

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Okay.

好的。

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Slight correction.

略微糾正一下。。。

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in how I told the story before I finish it.

在我說(shuō)完這個(gè)故事之前稍微糾正一下。

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(audience laughing)

（觀眾的笑聲）

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When the disciple originally says,

當(dāng)時(shí)這個(gè)信徒的原話是這樣的，

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"Yes, I can hear the mountain stream.

“是的，我能夠聽(tīng)到山間小溪的聲音。

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Yes, I can hear it."

是的，我能夠聽(tīng)到它?！?/p>

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The master says, "Enter zen from there or from here.

大師說(shuō)到，“從那里（這里）入禪。

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Enters zen from there, enter zen from here."

從那里入禪，從這里入禪?！?/p>

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In other words, that's the entry point into zen

換句話說(shuō)，在此時(shí)此刻，那就是進(jìn)入禪境的

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in this moment.

法門。

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And then hours later

一個(gè)小時(shí)后，

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when the disciple has been thinking again,

當(dāng)這個(gè)信徒重新開(kāi)始思考，

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they're walking again.

他們又上路了。

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"What would you have said if I'd said to you

“如果我說(shuō)我無(wú)法聽(tīng)到山間小溪的聲音，

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I can't hear the mountain stream?"

您會(huì)怎么回答？”

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What would you have said then?"

您會(huì)說(shuō)什么？”

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The mind is weird.

心智很奇怪。

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It never stops ruminations.

它從來(lái)不會(huì)停止反復(fù)思考。

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And the master raised his finger and said,

這位大師豎起他的手指說(shuō)到，

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"Enters zen from there, from here.

“從那里（這里）入禪。

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Every point is...

每個(gè)點(diǎn)都是。。。

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These things cannot be explained.

這些不能被解釋，

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You spoil them if you explain them.

否則它們會(huì)被你糟蹋掉。

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I just explained it unfortunately.

糟糕的是我剛剛就是在解釋。

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(audience laughing)

（觀眾的笑聲）

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The mind that doesn't stop.

心智不會(huì)停止。

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You have the mind.

你擁有。。。

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Such a wonderful tool,

心智是一個(gè)很棒的工具，

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such a wonderful instrument for creation.

一個(gè)很棒的用于創(chuàng)造的工具。

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The ability to think

思考的能力和

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that's inseparable from the rising of language,

語(yǔ)言的出現(xiàn)是分不開(kāi)的，

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related to use language

和語(yǔ)言的使用密不可分。

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and thinking is a kind of inner talk.

思考是一種無(wú)聲的講話。

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And it grew and grew

它越來(lái)越膨脹，

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and gradually, it took over.

漸漸地，它接管了一切。

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And so humans lost their connectedness with being,

所以在察覺(jué)到思考是無(wú)意識(shí)的之前，

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which before the realizing of thinking was unconscious

人類失去了他們和存在的連接。

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but they have felt that deep...

但是他們?cè)?jīng)感受到那個(gè)深層的。。。

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They did not live in a problem-making state of anxiety.

他們沒(méi)有活在一個(gè)制造問(wèn)題的焦慮狀態(tài)。

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Or if there was fear, it was short-lived

或者如果感到恐懼，它只是存在很短的時(shí)間，

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because there was immediate danger, but there was no anxiety

因?yàn)橹挥屑纯痰奈ｋU(xiǎn)，而沒(méi)有焦慮，

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or fear generated by the thinking process

也沒(méi)有由思考過(guò)程所產(chǎn)生的恐懼，

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because there was no thinking process.

因?yàn)椴淮嬖谒伎肌?/p>

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There was no identities that were before the time

在納西索斯（希臘神話人物）在水中

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that Narcissus saw his image in the pool of water

看到自己的樣貌并癡迷于它之前，

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and became obsessed with it

不存在身份認(rèn)同，

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that I talked about yesterday.

我昨天說(shuō)過(guò)這些。

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The first selfie,

第一個(gè)自拍，

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the world's first selfie, me, that's me.

世上的第一個(gè)自拍。。。我，這是我。

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And then people began

然后人們開(kāi)始產(chǎn)生

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to have a relationship with themselves.

和自己的關(guān)系。

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I hate myself.

我恨自己。

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I love myself.

我愛(ài)自己。

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Sometimes I hate myself and sometimes I love myself.

有時(shí)我恨自己，有時(shí)我愛(ài)自己。

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Hmm. (audience laughing)

唔。（觀眾的笑聲）

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Loving yourself is certainly preferable

愛(ài)自己顯然要比恨自己

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to hating yourself.

更合適。

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I would've recommend it, but it's not the last step.

我會(huì)這么建議，但是這不是終點(diǎn)。

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It's an intermediate step.

這只是中間步驟。

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Beyond loving yourself

超越愛(ài)自己

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is no longer having a relationship with yourself.

是指不再和自己存在關(guān)系。

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(Eckhart laughing)

（埃克哈特的笑聲）

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I'm ending the relationship with myself.

我要結(jié)束和自己的關(guān)系。

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(audience laughing)

（觀眾的笑聲）

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Goodbye. (audience laughing)

再見(jiàn)。（觀眾的笑聲）

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This is it. (audience laughing)

到此為止了。（觀眾的笑聲）

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So after loving yourself,

所以在愛(ài)自己之后，

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the next step is simply being yourself.

下一步就是簡(jiǎn)單地成為自己。

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Oh, then you neither, you don't hate yourself.

然后你既不恨自己（也不愛(ài)自己）。

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You can't really say I love myself

事實(shí)上你不能說(shuō)愛(ài)自己，

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because the moment you say I love myself,

因?yàn)楫?dāng)你說(shuō)愛(ài)自己時(shí)，

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you have created duality, I and myself.

你制造了二元對(duì)立，我和自己。

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So who is that self that you either love or hate?

那么誰(shuí)是那個(gè)你愛(ài)或恨的自己？

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And who are you?

并且你是誰(shuí)？

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(Eckhart laughing)

（?？斯氐男β暎?/p>

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(water rushing)

（流水聲）