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I saw on the news that the age to buy cigarettes and other tobacco-related items would raise every year, in a bid to dissuade younger people from cigs and whatnot. So to buy cigs now you have to be 18, next year you’d have to be 19, then 20 in 2024 and so on.

我看到新聞上說購買香煙和與煙草有關(guān)的東西時(shí)，要求的年齡每年都會(huì)提高，以勸阻年輕人遠(yuǎn)離香煙。比如現(xiàn)在買香煙必須18歲，明年要19歲，然后到2024年要20歲這樣。

Personally I think this raises the issue of what are the government going to do when the taxes for cigarettes goes? Or what about the people who sell fake cigarettes? Or what about the people who go abroad for cheaper cigs and come back to sell their surplus?

在我看來，我認(rèn)為這引發(fā)了一個(gè)問題：當(dāng)香煙稅取消了，政府要怎么辦？或者那些賣假煙的人？還有那些出國買便宜香煙，然后拿回來賣的人呢？

What do you think?

大家怎么看？

評(píng)論翻譯

Harrry-Otter
I’d look forward to being in my 60s and seeing a gang of people in their 50s hanging around outside the corner shop asking if I can go in and buy them 20 B&H silver.

我期待著在我60多歲的時(shí)候，看到一群50多歲的人在街角的商店外徘徊，問我能不能進(jìn)去幫他們買包煙。
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ughiwokeup
yeah mate im 60 just forgot my ID at home

好的兄弟，我60了，然而我身份證忘家里了

AllRedLine
Sorry mate. No ID, no service. We're a 'Challenge 75' store.

抱歉老兄，沒有身份證就沒法買東西。我們是“挑戰(zhàn)75”商店

IpromithiusI
Smoking costs the economy more than the tax brings in. ￡17bn in lost productivity and healthcare vs ￡10bn raise in tax.

吸煙對(duì)經(jīng)濟(jì)的影響大于稅收。生產(chǎn)力和醫(yī)療費(fèi)用損失170億英鎊，而稅收100億英鎊。

noseysheep
Alcohol probably costs us even more, why aren't we getting rid of that then?

酒可能會(huì)讓我們損失更多，我們?yōu)槭裁床唤涞羲兀?/p>

helic0n3
I think there is more of a valid social argument for alcohol, it can be enjoyed in modesty and for its taste. Also it simply isn't ever going to happen, it can only be contained. Do the raise the age every year for cigarettes and it will be gone, fairly simply. Not even remotely workable for alcohol.

我認(rèn)為對(duì)于酒，社會(huì)上有更多合理的觀點(diǎn)證明它可以被適度地享用和品嘗。而且它也無法被消滅掉，只能被控制。如果每年都提高吸煙年齡，它就會(huì)消滅掉，很簡單。這對(duì)酒來說根本行不通。

Wizzpig25
Technically you could bring in the same policy for alcohol, but there is no societal pressure to do that. Smoking creates second hand smoke, so not only the smoker is affected by it. Alcohol itself only affects the consumer of it (though behavioural impacts of the inebriated can impact others).

嚴(yán)格來說，你可以對(duì)酒采取同樣的政策，不過是沒有這樣的社會(huì)壓力罷了。吸煙會(huì)產(chǎn)生二手煙，所以不僅僅是吸煙者會(huì)受到影響。酒只影響喝酒的人（盡管醉酒者的行為影響可能會(huì)影響其他人）。
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InconsistentEffort20
Smokers make the best anti-smoke campaigners but the truth is that 90% of them would be far less against it if the taxes didn't make it extremely expensive and the laws / social rules didn't make it extremely inconvenient.
But literally no one would want to be forced through nicotine withdrawal and no one at all wants a habit they are stuck with to become ever more expensive, inconvenient or socially unacceptable.
Vaping is akin to drinking a special kind of alcohol that doesn't wreck your liver and can only get you "very drunk" instead of "black out drunk". The opposition to it is baffling unless people are getting off on tutting at others and controlling others.

煙民是最好的反煙運(yùn)動(dòng)者，但事實(shí)是，如果稅收不讓煙變貴，法律/社會(huì)規(guī)則不讓吸煙變得麻煩，那么90%的煙民也不會(huì)那么反對(duì)它。
然而實(shí)際上，沒有人希望被迫戒煙，也沒有人希望他們所堅(jiān)持的習(xí)慣變得越來越昂貴、不方便或不被社會(huì)所接受。
吸電子煙類似于喝一種特殊的酒，不會(huì)損害你的肝臟，只會(huì)讓你有醉感，而不會(huì)“酩酊大醉”。反對(duì)電子煙實(shí)在讓人困惑，除非人們對(duì)控制他人感到興奮。

joshpriebe1234
Well said, and I want the vaping version of alcohol

說得好，我想要電子煙版的酒。

FishUK_Harp
My opposition to vaping is to vape users. More specifically, the inconsiderate ones who think all social norms regarding smoking don't apply to them (e.g. near others, in confined spaces, near people eating), and especially those who use extemely pungent liquid.

我反對(duì)吸電子煙是因?yàn)槲鼰熣摺８唧w地說，是那些粗魯?shù)?、認(rèn)為所有關(guān)于吸煙的社會(huì)規(guī)范都不適用于他們的人（比如在別人旁邊、在密閉空間、在吃東西的人旁邊），尤其是那些使用刺激性煙油的人。

TheLAriver
Well yeah, those social norms don't apply to vaping because of how it's different from smoking. There's no secondhand vapor danger. Your complaint might as well be about people wearing perfume. The social norms for smoking that you reference are all about the danger of secondhand smoke. None of them are about the smell.

是的，這些社會(huì)規(guī)范不適用于電子煙，因?yàn)樗c吸煙有很大的不同。它沒有二手煙的危險(xiǎn)。你的抱怨也可以用于噴香水的人。你提到吸煙的社會(huì)規(guī)范都是關(guān)于二手煙危險(xiǎn)的。這些規(guī)范與味道無關(guān)。

TastyTaco217
Except nicotine is one of the least harmful compounds found in cigarettes, despite being the main driver behind addictive behaviour.
Yes it acts as a stimulant and chronic use contributes to increased blood pressure and elevated resting heart rate, but compared to the other compounds it barely compares, mainly because it ISNT carcinogenic.
Vaping has been found to be magnitudes safer than smoking even if long-term studies are few and far between due to the recency in the cultural shift away from smoking towards vaping.
A society of vapers would be a much healthier society than a society of smokers, end of.

尼古丁是香煙中危害性最小的化合物之一，盡管它是導(dǎo)致上癮行為的主要因素。
是的，它是一種興奮劑，長期使用會(huì)導(dǎo)致血壓升高和靜息心率升高，但與其他化合物相比，它又微不足道了，主要是因?yàn)樗恢掳?br>人們發(fā)現(xiàn)吸電子煙比吸煙要安全很多，盡管從吸煙到吸電子煙的文化轉(zhuǎn)變是新近發(fā)生的，所以關(guān)于吸電子煙的長期研究很少。
電子煙社會(huì)比吸煙社會(huì)更健康。

Stlakes
As a smoker, honestly there are some times when I do really enjoy a cigarette, like after a good meal, or with a coffee first thing in the morning.
That being said, all of the things I enjoy about smoking could be achieved by just having 5 minutes to myself in the fresh air every couple of hours, and I absolutely wish I'd never started smoking to begin with.
It costs me about ￡22 a week, I used to be really fit and active in my late teens/early 20s, but now I get winded so much easier and it's had a massive impact on my health and fitness, and I'm only 27.

老實(shí)說，作為一個(gè)吸煙者，有些時(shí)候我真的很喜歡抽支煙，比如飽餐一頓之后，或者在早上喝咖啡的時(shí)候。
話雖如此，享受吸煙的所有事情都可以通過在新鮮空氣中呆5分鐘來實(shí)現(xiàn)，而且我非常希望我從一開始就沒有吸煙。
吸煙每周要花我22英鎊，我在20歲左右的時(shí)候非常健康，但我現(xiàn)在就很容易發(fā)虛，這對(duì)我的健康和健身產(chǎn)生了巨大影響，而我只有27歲。

Just-a-Guy87
You couldn’t do the same with alcohol at all! Do you realise how easy it is to brew your own beer, cider is even easier, you can even make your own spirits with the right kit (tad bit more dangerous though). Look at the prohibition era in America, totally didn’t work. Tobacco isn’t easy to grow in this country and processing it after isn’t easy either.

你根本不能將吸煙的規(guī)范用于酒。你知道自己釀造啤酒有多容易嗎？蘋果酒更容易，你甚至可以用合適的工具釀造烈酒（盡管有點(diǎn)危險(xiǎn)）?？纯疵绹慕屏顣r(shí)代，完全無效。而煙草在這個(gè)國家不容易種植，之后的加工也不容易。