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詭秘外國網(wǎng)友評論節(jié)選意譯 - 【1345-1347】【含本章說】

2023-03-02 17:13 作者:凌冰雪  | 我要投稿

【1345章(倒吊人-79章)又見面了】——本章說

【如果是阿蒙“寄生”格爾曼.斯帕羅這個秘偶,以克萊恩現(xiàn)在的位格和“源堡”之上“靈之蟲”們的全天候監(jiān)控,肯定能第一時間發(fā)現(xiàn)問題,而若是查拉圖將“靈體之線”轉(zhuǎn)接,也只能短暫瞞住他,且必須有“知識皇帝”或“隱秘之仆”這種天使輔助,達(dá)不到這樣突然襲擊的效果,唯有“觀眾”給予的人性能慢慢發(fā)酵,外表沒有一絲一毫異常。】

BreakBreakBreak

In my opinion,the man who was educated with betray would only know that relationship and never believe in friendship I remember that some said in this book different beyonders act different,would it influent their ability?such as Adam's humanity skill is full of betray,because thats all he ever know

在我看來,從小就只被教育了如何背叛的人也只會知道這一種相處方式,他們永遠(yuǎn)不會相信友誼。我記得這本書里之前有人說過,不同的非凡者行動方式也不一樣,這會不會也反映在他們的能力上?就比如亞當(dāng)?shù)母鞣N技能都是背叛,背叛和背叛,因為這就是他唯一知道的東西


【“源堡”內(nèi)的“靈之蟲”們接收到了他的意志,放棄了這個秘偶的“靈體之線”,并拿起“星之杖”,準(zhǔn)備給克萊恩致命一擊,自己殺死自己?!?/p>

Dex2

A final "giving the finger" to an unruly marionette ??

對于某個不守規(guī)矩的秘偶最后的“豎起某根手指”


【知道亞當(dāng)是幕后操縱者后,他已不抱任何僥幸?!?/p>

Shtriya

Now u have done it . Be ready to die adam .

既然你敢干出這些事情。準(zhǔn)備去死吧,亞當(dāng)。


【這漩渦延伸出一條條滑膩奇異的觸手,瘋狂地拍打著周圍,掀翻了雜物堆,毀滅了斑駁長桌?!?/p>

BarabanPlato

Nooo, not the junk pile!

不——,不要打垃圾堆?。?!


【克萊恩的分身與本體斷掉了聯(lián)系,而本體又未真正死去,所以,它們失控了,瘋狂了,就像當(dāng)初的查拉圖一樣?!?/p>

Aeonmist

1 worm of spirit can turn into the mythical creature form? Kinda op

1條靈之蟲就可以變成神話生物形態(tài)?那還有點(diǎn)掛壁的


【亞當(dāng)給予的只有人性,沒有空想出來的生命,因為后者會被發(fā)現(xiàn)?!?/p>

Frosty_Wings

That's cruel.

太殘忍了。


Skirata

why did giving him humanity make him stab Klein?

為什么給他人性他就會去背刺克萊恩了?


【他死在了這片廢墟中?!?/p>

Aby55

Died in the past? oh boy...a lot of shenanigans the author could do with this

死在了過去?哦,孩子……作者可是可以用這一點(diǎn)玩很多花樣的


【“于祂而言,你成為舊日,就意味著祂必然隕落,可如果是阿蒙成為舊日,祂只要表現(xiàn)出自己的忠誠,依舊可以保留現(xiàn)在的位格和層次,‘詭秘之主’總是需要‘詭秘侍者’的?!?/p>

CenserBearer

Im wondering who would be klein's attendant of mysteries when he become lord of the mysteries

我在想,等到克萊恩成為詭秘之主之后,誰會是他的詭秘侍者


(回復(fù)樓上)Zoruakun

He needs all three sequence 1 characteristics so he does not need nor can have an attendant of mysteries.

他需要所有3個序列1特性,所以他不需要,也不會有詭秘侍者。


(回復(fù)樓上)Santari

A sequence 0 means there cannot be a sequence 1 but if one is above the sequences (for example omnipotent and omniscient God or Lord of Mysteries) there can be sequence 1s. This is proven by the ancient sun god and 'His' Kings of Angels.

一個序列0意味著不會存在序列1,但是如果是序列之上(比如全知全能的上帝或者詭秘之主),那就可以有序列1。這一點(diǎn)已經(jīng)通過遠(yuǎn)古太陽神和“祂”的天使之王們證實了。


(回復(fù)一樓)Skyfiend13

Himself ??like always

他自己啊23333一如既往


【那是一塊灰撲撲的石板,表面多有斑駁痕跡殘留,顯得頗為滄桑?!?/p>

Anna_94

lmao imagine if the stone slab actually iPad ??

哈哈哈哈想象一下如果這塊石板其實是ipad


【殺了我吧……克萊恩在心里咕噥了一句?!?/p>

Redwinter

"Later..." Big bonus points to whoever gets this reference...

“過會再說……”如果有人懂了這個梗,給你們加分……

【一個出自TF2軍團(tuán)要塞2的梗,冰箱里spy的頭說了一句“殺了我……”然后醫(yī)生應(yīng)付道“過會再說”】


(回復(fù)樓上)Aaaalison

Call me by your name?

是Call me by your name?


(回復(fù)樓上)Redwinter

Meet the medic. look it up on YT

是醫(yī)生的梗。你在油管自己查下


(回復(fù)一樓)Manaworkz

spy should have quit while he was a head

spy應(yīng)該在他還只有個頭的時候就退出的


【上帝、創(chuàng)造者、造物主、全知全能者、星界之主:】

Observer98

Between this and Longinus having been a thing, it makes me wonder what pathway Jesus was from and what his Sequence was. Or perhaps it takes the idea of the father, son and holy spirit all being one and he was actually a smurf of the God Almighty that existed back then?

既然有這種設(shè)定,而且朗基努斯之槍真的存在,這就讓我開始思考,耶穌到底是哪條途徑的,他的序列又會是什么。或者也許這就是采用了圣父,圣靈,圣子三位一體的理念,祂其實就是當(dāng)時存在的上帝的一個小號?


(回復(fù)樓上)nguyensonhai

Well, Jesus can do the storm things, light and fire things, the Garden of Eden, made humans, know all,... so you guess

嗯,耶穌可以制造風(fēng)暴,閃電和火焰,還有伊甸園,還能制造人類,還知曉一切……所以你猜呢


【“混沌?!?“空想家”唯一性+“太陽”唯一性+“暴君”唯一性+“白塔”唯一性+“倒吊人”唯一性+1份“作家”非凡特性+1份“純白天使”非凡特性+1份“雷神”非凡特性+1份“全知之眼”非凡特性+1份“暗天使”非凡特性。】

SphereSama

wait... visionary uniqueness? so he is asg

等等……空想家唯一性?所以他是遠(yuǎn)太


(回復(fù)樓上)Tukang_Sampah

dude, Adam himself is a sequence 0 visionary, so he already has the uniqueness

兄弟,亞當(dāng)自己就是序列0空想家,所以他已經(jīng)有唯一性了


(回復(fù)樓上)shuiery

adam had the visionary uniqueness when asg still alive.

遠(yuǎn)太還活著的時候亞當(dāng)就有空想家唯一性了。


(回復(fù)樓上)idoking12

could be a persona

可能是他的身份之一


(回復(fù)樓上上)Tukang_Sampah

this will be explained in the next chapter

這個下一章會解釋


Observer98

White Tower and Omniscient Eye huh. The Reader pathway really feels like the most under explored one of all.

白塔和全知之眼哈?閱讀者途徑真的感覺是曝光最少,最需要探索的途徑之一。


(回復(fù)樓上)Anna_94

just like how author forgot about Edwina. she have big potential represent that pathway but Cattleya suddenly pop up and stole the spot.

就像作者現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)把艾德雯娜忘了一樣。之前明明感覺她在展示她的途徑這方面有很多的潛力,但嘉德麗雅突然出現(xiàn),然后把她的位置搶走了。


(回復(fù)樓上)tpk

Cattleya is from Mystery Pryer pathway (hermit)

嘉德麗雅是窺秘人途徑的(隱者)


(回復(fù)樓上)mxzptlk

you misunderstood their comment

你理解錯他的意思了


OLIYAN

So there can be a God and Sequence 1 Angel at the same time since it only need ONE Beyonder Characteristic of each path!

所以真神和序列1天使可以同時存在咯,因為每條途徑只需要一個非凡特性!


(回復(fù)樓上)Zoruakun

No, that is not possible. A Great Old One still needs to be a god from one pathway (three sequence 1 and an uniqueness) while incorporating the uniquenesses and sequence 1 characteristics of the neighboring ones. From the same path it is impossible even if a god became an old one, he needs to continue being a god in order to not fall to a king of angels' level and die of madness from his myriad characteristics from neighboring pathways.

不,這是不可能的。一個舊日還是需要成為某條途徑的真神(3個序列1+唯一性),而且還要融合相鄰?fù)緩降奈ㄒ恍院托蛄?特性。同一條途徑里,即使真神成為了舊日,也是不可能同時存在天使的,他必須要保持真神的狀態(tài)才能不會掉到天使之王的級別,不然他就會因為體內(nèi)相鄰?fù)緩降奈ㄒ恍院碗s亂的特性而發(fā)瘋死掉。


DJ_Yasaqua

I hope the White Tower pathway is explored upon more in the second book, it’s pretty cool

我希望白塔途徑能在第二部中得到更多的展示。這個真的很酷


【詭秘之主、時空之王、命運(yùn)道標(biāo)、源堡化身、靈界支配者:】

Anna_94

the MC from throne magical arcana also have ability related to space and time right?

奧術(shù)神座的主角好像也有和時空相關(guān)的能力對吧?


(回復(fù)樓上)idoking12

from what I know space time tends to be the peak of knowledge and power in cultivation

據(jù)我所知,時空經(jīng)常被設(shè)定為是修仙小說里最難最頂尖的能力


(回復(fù)樓上)Bard_Fall

Thats just a perspective From a more creative perspective Fire can burn space-time Water can manipulate space time Earth can seal speace time

我這也就是提供一個新角度,從有點(diǎn)創(chuàng)意的角度來說,火焰可以灼燒時空,水可以操縱時空,土可以封印時空


【“源堡”+“愚者”唯一性+“錯誤”唯一性+“門”唯一性+1份“詭秘侍者”非凡特性+1份“時之蟲”非凡特性+1份“星之匙”非凡特性。】

Observer98

Is this the first confirmation we've gotten that Sequence 0 of the Apprentice pathway is called Door? It's pretty much been hinted all along but I don't remember anyone outright confirming this.

這是不是我們第一次得到正式確認(rèn),學(xué)徒的序列0就叫做門?之前一直是這么暗示的,但我不記得有沒有人出來正面證實這一點(diǎn)了。


(回復(fù)樓上)OLIYAN

Yes, since I read the Chinese version and I don't remember anyone mentioned it, it is just Mr. Door call himself as Mr. Door.

是的,我看的是中文版,我不記得有其他任何人提到過這個,只有門先生管自己叫門先生這段。


idoking12

I see a preferential treatment toward the seer pathway

我看到了占卜家途徑的特殊待遇啊


(回復(fù)樓上)Bard_Fall

Author Worm of time Key of Star Oroburos Red priest Criminal Number 1 sequence they are all op in their own way...

作家,時之蟲,星之匙,水銀之蛇,紅祭司,罪犯,他們的序列1都各有自己的掛壁之處……


(回復(fù)樓上)idoking12

I meant in the lord of mysteries trio

我是說在茍三家里


【說到這里,祂微微一笑道: “我們又見面了,詭秘?!薄?/p>

TomoyaNagase

Has something awaked inside of Klein already?

克萊恩體內(nèi)是已經(jīng)有什么東西覺醒了嗎?


(回復(fù)樓上)OLIYAN

Yes, the original LOTM is awaking. It would be mentioned later.

是的,原初的詭秘已經(jīng)覺醒了。之后會提到的。


(回復(fù)樓上)Luofuchen

Do not post spoilers. What is spoiler? If you post/reveal content from future chapter. Do not spoil anything. Even if people are asking direct questions.

不要發(fā)劇透內(nèi)容。什么叫劇透?如果你發(fā)布/透露了任何未來章節(jié)的內(nèi)容,那就叫劇透。不要劇透任何內(nèi)容。即使有人發(fā)布了相關(guān)問題也不行。


(回復(fù)二樓)Santari

It has already been mentioned some chapters ago. This is not a spoiler. The Lord of Mysteries that is awakening is equivalent to The Original Creator (that is awakening inside Klein).

幾章之前其實已經(jīng)提到了。這不是劇透。和原初造物主同等的詭秘之主已經(jīng)在覺醒了(在克萊恩體內(nèi))。


(回復(fù)一樓)Bard_Fall

Beyounder is to become more and becoming more mean being less human and becoming more of the path the beyounder takes So any one reaching sequence 0 or Great old ones will embodi part of the previous entity in a way once you become sequence 0 or great old one you are immortal as a result (not spoiler this can be easily concluded from all previous chapters)

非凡者的晉升都是會有越來越多特性的,越來越多就意味著人性的部分更少,非凡途徑的部分更多,所以任何一個到了序列0或者舊日級別的人,都會體現(xiàn)出這條途徑之前的存在的某些特征,只要你到了序列0或者舊日級別,結(jié)果就是你已經(jīng)成為了不朽的非人存在(這不是劇透,你可以輕易從之前的章節(jié)里總結(jié)出來)


WarStrider72

Hello, Ancient Sun God

你好,遠(yuǎn)太


SphereSama

i knew it

我就知道


ThisDaddy

what? no, how is it possible?

什么?不,這怎么可能?


Shtriya

so he decided to tell him finally??

所以他終于決定要告訴他了


YuriLover212

I see... So it really is him.

我懂了……所以真的是他。


【1345章(倒吊人-79章)又見面了】

Demoneastz

“We meet again, Mysteries.” -Adam

“又見面了,詭秘?!薄獊啴?dāng)


All_Night

So Adam is actually the Ancient Sun God... because when Klein looked back in time using the Unshadowed Crucifix. He looked at him and called him “Mysteries”.

所以亞當(dāng)其實是遠(yuǎn)古太陽神……因為克萊恩之前用無暗十字架看到過去的遠(yuǎn)太的時候,他看向了他,然后叫他“詭秘”。


Tetractys

According to the second Blasphemy Slate, there isn't a ritual at all for ascension. I guess that makes it easier with just the Sephirot, Uniquenesses, and sequence one characteristics. At this point, Klein is definitely not going to free himself under his own power. It'll be up to him convincing "Adam" or getting outside help. At any rate, Klein is more or less under divine house arrest until Amon comes to collect his due. It'll probably be another exposition chapter coming up next. Looking forward to some juicy revelations!

根據(jù)第二塊褻瀆石板的內(nèi)容,晉升本身其實并不需要儀式。我猜只有源質(zhì),唯一性和序列1特性的話應(yīng)該會更簡單一點(diǎn)吧?,F(xiàn)在,克萊恩絕對沒辦法通過他自己的力量逃出去了?,F(xiàn)在完全取決于他能不能說服“亞當(dāng)”或者從外界獲得幫助了。不論如何,克萊恩差不多就是被鎖在神國里了,只能等到阿蒙來收取他的戰(zhàn)利品。下一章可能大部分都是揭秘說明內(nèi)容。迫不及待想看美味的揭秘環(huán)節(jié)了!


Whisky_007

Daddy creator back to the game.

造物主爸爸回到了游戲。


Sam_SG

Is Adam the ancient sun God or am I thinking of something else? Then what is The True Creator?

亞當(dāng)是遠(yuǎn)古太陽神嗎?還是說我想錯了?那真實造物主又是誰?


(回復(fù)樓上)Ozwin

He is the ancient sun god which means he is from the same era as Klein. “Mysteries” is what he said when Klein gazed far into the past when looking at the origin of the unshadowed crucifix... Adam is how the Ancient Sun God is reviving himself... *gazes high into the sky as this chapter had a lot to take in and consider*

他是遠(yuǎn)古太陽神,這就意味著他和克萊恩是來自同一個時代的。“詭秘”是克萊恩通過觀察無暗十字架的起源時瞥見遠(yuǎn)太,遠(yuǎn)太對克萊恩的稱呼……亞當(dāng)就是遠(yuǎn)古太陽神復(fù)活自己的方法……*遠(yuǎn)目中,這一章真的有很多需要仔細(xì)思考的地方*


(回復(fù)一樓)Ozwin

Oh sorry forgot the second question. The true creator is another piece the Ancient sun god cut off from himself when he discovered that he was losing his own will and slowly becoming the previous big god in an arrangement to defeat himself and try to get rid of the corruption via revival.

哦抱歉,忘記了還有第二個問題。真實造物主是遠(yuǎn)古太陽神發(fā)現(xiàn)自己正在逐漸失去自我意識,慢慢變成之前的那個造物主之后,從他自己身上切下來的另一個部分,這個部分被安排在將來擊敗他自己,試圖通過復(fù)活的過程來擺脫污染。


(回復(fù)一樓)Byakuei86

according to Klein theories the 1st God Almighty already perish but like how it goes with Klein and former Lord of Mysteries he can still revive using the body of people who in pathway that under it... if u talking about True Creator that in forsaken Land of god and god for Aurora Order it was said in previous chapter that it 1 of persona created by ASG to resist primordial

根據(jù)克萊恩的推測,第一個上帝已經(jīng)消亡了,但就像克萊恩和上一代詭秘之主的關(guān)系一樣,他還是可以在任何一個走他的途徑的人身上復(fù)活……如果你說的是真實造物主,也就是在神棄之地生活的那個神,也是極光會信仰的神,前幾章有提到過,他是遠(yuǎn)太為了抵御初始制造出來的一個身份


TomoyaNagase

All of these developments are quite thrilling I am looking forward to the next couple of chapters!

這些劇情發(fā)展也太驚心動魄了吧,我迫不及待想看接下來幾章了?。?/p>


ThisDaddy

We meet again ?? but no one seems to be the same, Klein is not Klein, Adam is not Adam.

我們又見面啦~但倆人看起來都和以前不太一樣了,克萊恩不再是克萊恩,亞當(dāng)不再是亞當(dāng)。


Zarivon

Man, this means the ASG took over his own son to revive himself? Harsh. I wonder why Adam and not Amon? The Lord of the Mysteries requirements sound like an easier path to being a Great Old One. 3 pathways to murder instead of 5.

天啊,這就意味著遠(yuǎn)太其實占據(jù)了自己兒子的身份來復(fù)活自己?真是嚴(yán)酷。不知道為什么是亞當(dāng)而不是阿蒙?詭秘之主途徑成為舊日的要求聽起來好像要簡單一點(diǎn)。只需要?dú)⒐?個途徑,而不是5個。


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

It doesn't even have to be his son. It could just be another "separated identity" of himself. We've seen/heard of Visionary pathway do this before - that Barros Hopkins (president of psychology alchemists) mentioned several identities of his, some that even died out; Hermes...

其實甚至都不一定需要是他的兒子。完全可以是他自己的隨便哪個“獨(dú)立身份”。我們都已經(jīng)見到/聽到了,之前空想家途徑的人就干過這件事——那個巴洛斯·霍普金斯(心里煉金會的首席)提到過他有好幾重身份,有些身份甚至已經(jīng)宣布死亡;赫密斯……


Byakuei86

still think what Adam/ASG doing kind of pointless for himself(only benefit Amon since he still can become great old one IF Klein is not the MC)... to become great old one he need to fight at least 3 deity class for the uniqueness and i doubt they will be willing to give it him too everytime sequence 2 Error pathway is mention i laugh because it remind me of computer virus XD still what about the last sentence from Adam?? did he think Klein is like him or this is another preparation from author to give us more surprise

我還是覺得亞當(dāng)/遠(yuǎn)太做得事情對他自己來說有點(diǎn)毫無意義?。ㄟ@一切只對阿蒙有好處,因為如果克萊恩不是主角,他還是能成為舊日)……為了成為舊日,他得戰(zhàn)勝至少3個真神,拿到他們的唯一性,我很懷疑他們會不會樂意主動把這玩意給他……每次提到序列2錯誤途徑我都想笑,因為我總是會想到電腦病毒XD但是,亞當(dāng)這最后一句話到底是啥意思??他是覺得克萊恩和他情況一樣嗎,還是說這是作者準(zhǔn)備給我們來點(diǎn)大驚喜的前搖


elm_in_eden

Wouldn't this mean that Ankewelt was a great old one or at least attempting to become one? Since he had a Sequence 1 subsidiary,

這不就意味著安格爾威德其實之前是個舊日嗎,或者至少試圖成為舊日過?因為他已經(jīng)有一個序列1從神了。


(回復(fù)樓上)HeinousFox

I think that was something a sequence 0 of his pathway can do, not necessarily a great old one I think. Maybe the same as Amon, who can even create a clone who have the strength of sequence 1 if he get enough characteristics. I would think about that as he creating a new persona of himself, that probably make he more weak than a pure sequence 0, but it allowed him to create a sequence 1. But if he was a Great Old One, since he only needs 1 characteristics and the uniqueness of each pathway, he could separate 2 spare ones he used to ascend to sequence 0 in the beginning to create a King of Angels, or if he tried using more than one characteristics from another pathway he can give up on the idea and pass it on.

我感覺這一點(diǎn)應(yīng)該在他這條途徑的序列0能力范圍之內(nèi),并不一定非要成為舊日才能做到。也許就和阿蒙一樣,如果他獲得的特性足夠多,他甚至能制造一個和序列1同等強(qiáng)度的分身。我會覺得他應(yīng)該是創(chuàng)造了自己的一個新身份,也許這讓他比純粹的序列0更弱了,但這也讓他能夠制造出一個序列1。但如果他之前真的是舊日,既然他只需要1個特性和每條途徑的唯一性,那他剛開始創(chuàng)造天使之王的時候,完全可以分出他原本用來晉升序列0的2個空余特性。又或者如果他曾經(jīng)嘗試過使用其他途徑的特性來創(chuàng)造天使之王,那他完全可以放棄之前這個主意,轉(zhuǎn)而使用這個方法。


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

You're right that it is a specialty of Visionary but on the separating the characteristics, if you look at it again, a great old one can't separate the characteristics they need to become a deity to give to someone else. According to Adam, they only need seq 1+uniqueness of neighbouring paths but for their own pathway, they need them all. Otherwise, it would be no issue for Zaratul to survive since Klein wouldn't have needed the seq 1 he has.

關(guān)于空想家的特殊你的確說對了,但是關(guān)于分裂特性的部分,如果你再重看一遍的話,你會發(fā)現(xiàn)舊日是沒辦法把特性分離出去給別人的,因為他們需要成為真神才能做到這一點(diǎn)。根據(jù)亞當(dāng)?shù)恼f法,他們只需要相鄰?fù)緩降男蛄?+唯一性,但對于他們自己的途徑,他們需要全部的特性。否則的話,對查拉圖來說活命也沒什么問題了,因為克萊恩就沒必要非要拿到他的序列1特性了。


Foxvolant

To get caught like that... was that the idea from the get go...? Or did mysteries arrange this meeting?

就這么被抓住了……是一開始就埋藏了這樣的想法嗎?還是說是詭秘安排了這次會面?


【1346章(倒吊人-80章)“空想家”的特殊】——本章說

ThisDaddy

not uniqueness...huh .

是特殊,不是唯一性嗎……哈。


【真實造物主等于收回了薩斯利爾人格后的遠(yuǎn)古太陽神“惡靈”?!?/p>

bookoflogos

So Rosago was killed by LOTM (Klein) and ASGs’ (TCC) ganged up

所以羅薩戈是被詭秘(克萊恩)和遠(yuǎn)太(真實造物主)聯(lián)手才殺死的……


【又見面了,詭秘……亞當(dāng)?shù)扔谶h(yuǎn)古太陽神?或者遠(yuǎn)古太陽神的復(fù)活后手?祂知道這一點(diǎn),卻依舊想要復(fù)活祂的父親,所以被梅迪奇稱為“偏執(zhí)狂”?克萊恩腦海內(nèi)閃過了一個又一個念頭,對之前的某件事情有了全新的理解:】

TomoyaNagase

Well it's his own father and if he thinks it's the only way to stop the apocalypse then it seems like a reasonable decision. I believe quite alot of people would take an option of sacrificing themselves to not only revive a passed away relative but save all of the planet at the same time.

嗯,這可是他的親爹,而且如果他覺得這是唯一能拯救世界阻止末日的方法,那這個決定看起來也挺合理。我相信很多人如果知道犧牲自己不僅能復(fù)活過世的親人,還能拯救這顆星球的話,都會做出一樣的選擇的。


【他沉默了兩秒后,看著亞當(dāng)似乎不含一點(diǎn)雜質(zhì)的淡色眼眸道: “你是遠(yuǎn)古太陽神?”】

Verez

can't wait for the next meeting.

迫不及待想看下次塔羅會了。


【亞當(dāng)保持著牧師和煦的微笑,用啟發(fā)的口吻說道: “你不覺得八大天使之王里,我是最為特殊的那個嗎?】

SmolSardine

You're also the most narcissistic ??

你也是最自戀的那個


Pl4yful_5k3p71c

Bruh: ??

噗……


SilverCompass

somehow this "warm smile" makes him look punchable. probably bcs of how he acts

不知為何這個“和煦的微笑”讓他看起來非常欠揍。也許是因為他的表現(xiàn)就是很欠揍吧


【“正常的序列0由‘唯一性’加三份序列1非凡特性組成,缺失任何一個,都不能稱為真神,只能算天使之王,而‘空想家’可以在成為序列0后,分離兩份序列1非凡特性出來,以‘空想’出的相應(yīng)特性代替。】

Tukang_Sampah

so OP

這也太掛壁了


Anna_94

so if seer bullsht skill is "grafting" and this one is "envision" imagine the other 20 pathways.

所以如果占卜家的掛壁技能是“嫁接”的話,那空想家的就是“空想”……想象一下其他的20條途徑會是啥。


(回復(fù)樓上)Tukang_Sampah

envision is sequence 0 skill while grafting is sequence 1 skill, so seer ultimate skill is not yet revealed

空想是序列0級別的技能,而嫁接是序列1,所以占卜家的終極大招還沒揭露過呢


memehilist

Tyrant seq4: "MOAR LIGHTNING" seq3: "MOOAR LIGHTNING" seq2: "MOOOAR LIGHTNING" seq1: "EVEN MOOOAR LIGHTNING" seq0: food for the Almighty

暴君序列4:“大閃電!”序列3:“超大閃電!”序列2:“超超超大閃電!”序列1:“究極無敵大閃電!”序列0:上帝的盤中餐


(回復(fù)樓上)Observer98

Tyrant might legit be the worst pathway. The highest level ability Leodero has used is just bigger lightning, something that everyone and their father can avoid with the ubiquitous teleportation.

感覺暴君就是貨真價實的最差途徑了。列奧德羅目前用過的最高階技能真的就是劈大號閃電而已,這東西每個人和他們的爹都可以通過使用超遠(yuǎn)距離傳送來規(guī)避吧。


(回復(fù)樓上)Bone_God

hey the lightning gets faster too!!

嘿,高級的閃電劈下來的速度也更快呢!!


【“而對‘全知全能者’來說,可以‘創(chuàng)造’一份介于真實與虛幻之間的‘唯一性’來維持自身狀態(tài),只要不超過必要的限度?!薄?/p>

Tukang_Sampah

once again, so OP

重復(fù)一次,這也太掛壁了


(回復(fù)樓上)Fantasmal

well he is omnipotent and omniscient

嗯,他畢竟是全知全能啊


Observer98

I'm starting to think God Almighty might be more powerful than Lord of the Mysteries. Envisioning alone seems more impressive than anything the cowards can do.

我開始覺得上帝可能比詭秘之主還要強(qiáng)了。光是空想這個技能就比任何茍三家的技能都強(qiáng)了。


(回復(fù)樓上)Observer98

Also does this not mean he can envision himself back to God Almighty status or is the Uniqueness thing limited to his own pathway?

而且這不就意味著他可以用空想把自己恢復(fù)到上帝狀態(tài)的時候了嗎?還是說唯一性會有限制,讓他只能留在自己目前途徑的狀態(tài)?


(回復(fù)一樓)HeinousFox

Well, it is 5 pathway while Lord of the Mysteries is 3, God Almighty is probably the most powerful and very combat related. Lord of the Mysteries is probably the most annoying one and it can even seal a great old one like the genie. On the other hand I pit your dear Will Icecream, his pathway don't have any neighbor, but this also mean he can become above the sequence with his sefirot alone, but is probably the weakest.

這畢竟是5條途徑,而詭秘之主才3條,上帝可能是最強(qiáng)也最擅長戰(zhàn)斗的。詭秘之主可能是最難搞的一個,甚至還能像封印那個燈神一樣封印舊日。另一方面,我還得提到親愛的威爾·冰淇淋,他的途徑連相鄰?fù)緩蕉紱]有,但這也意味著,盡管他只需要他的源質(zhì)就可以成為序列之上,但他可能也是最弱的序列之上。


Loach_that_Leaps

I wonder if Lord of the Mysteries can actually do this too with Historical Projections of the Sequence 1 Characteristics or the Uniquenesses themselves at that level.

不知道如果到了詭秘之主這個級別,是不是也能通過對序列1特性或者唯一性使用歷史投影的方式來實現(xiàn)同樣的效果了。


【這,就是“空想之龍”安格爾威德和祂孩子“噩夢之龍”阿勒蘇霍德的關(guān)系?我曾經(jīng)以為“占卜家”和“偷盜者”途徑最為詭異,現(xiàn)在看來,都比不過“觀眾”……哎,小心觀眾……克萊恩徹底解開了心中的一大疑惑,也明白了為什么“空想之龍”安格爾威德要安排“0—08”這支羽毛筆與《格羅塞爾游記》相遇?!?/p>

idoking12

what you don't understand is naturally scarier

你不能理解的東西天然地就更恐怖


【一旦它們相遇,“0—08”這支源于“噩夢之龍”阿勒蘇霍德的羽毛筆就會“蘇醒”,成為降低了位格的“空想之龍”安格爾威德,然后,這位復(fù)活的古神將利用青銅之門后封印的自身負(fù)面人格,間接調(diào)動“混沌海”的力量,瞬間達(dá)到真神之下最強(qiáng)天使之王的層次?!?/p>

MMarci

So he did imagine his son! :D

所以他的兒子的確是空想出來的!:D


【“不過,‘空想之龍’本身受到了侵蝕,且有其他途徑的特性,狀態(tài)不是太好,只能分離一位‘作家’出來,否則會直接失控?!薄?/p>

SmolSardine

We know he had 3 eyes of different colours. Other than the golden draconic eye, he had a red eye and a third eye that seemed veiled by a shadow. (?) We know Herabergen was one of his subsidiary gods, so ASG most likely retrieved the Tower pathway as well from Anklewelt. The potion formulas didn't exist before ASG's ascension, and it was said that the ancient races used to consume the characteristics that shared a common element. So, the other pathways he possessed? Either "Steam" or Hermit, or even both? But there were no info so far about the appearance of these two pathways before the 4th Epoch. ??

我們都知道他有三只不同顏色的眼睛。除了金色的龍眼之外,他還有一只紅色的眼睛,第三只眼睛似乎是被陰影遮住的。(?)我們也知道赫拉伯根以前是他的從神之一,所以遠(yuǎn)太很有可能也從安格爾威德那里收走了高塔途徑。魔藥配方在遠(yuǎn)太晉升之前都不存在,而且之前也說到,古代種族以前都是直接吃有共通點(diǎn)的途徑的非凡特性的。所以,他擁有的其他途徑又是啥呢?要么是“蒸汽”,要么是隱者,又或者是兩者都有?但目前為止,還沒有任何關(guān)于這兩種途徑在第四紀(jì)之前出現(xiàn)的相關(guān)信息。


(回復(fù)樓上)SmolSardine

"So, what other pathways could he have possessed?"* I was too lazy to delete the comment and write all that stuff again lol

“所以,他可能擁有的其他途徑都是什么呢?”我實在懶得把剛才這條評論刪了再把這些東西重寫一遍了2333


【“阿蒙如果能成為‘錯誤’,同樣可以制造至少兩個序列1分身?!薄?/p>

CaCao

Amon does not deny himself, it is a real ERROR!

阿蒙可從來沒有否定他自己,他就是貨真價實的錯誤本誤!


【“不是?!眮啴?dāng)目視前方,神情溫和地回答道,“在我隕落,‘真實’誕生時?!薄?/p>

wokaodeshi

Amon lost one dad! Amon got two new dads!

阿蒙死了一個爹!阿蒙有了兩個新爹!


WayneZ

The Visionary never existed. Amon is the only child after all.

空想從未存在過。結(jié)果阿蒙是唯一的獨(dú)子啊。


【如果眾神知道遠(yuǎn)古太陽神早就在亞當(dāng)身上“復(fù)活”,第四紀(jì)的歷史恐怕就是圍剿所羅門帝國、黃昏隱士會加阿蒙家族?!?/p>

Nila_Ameliena

I've always been perplexed, "This Amon guy has family?! And all of them are blasphemer?" And now I realised that all his family members must be just a bunch of himself...

我之前一直都很疑惑,“阿蒙這種人竟然還有家族的嗎?!而且所有人都是瀆神者?!”然后現(xiàn)在我才意識到,他所有的家族成員就是一大群他自己……


【想到這里,他又低頭看了下插在自己胸口的染血十字木樁,覺得自己更值得同情?!?/p>

Ryien

Got stabbed by his own marionette... In short, got betrayed by himself. XD

被自己的秘偶背刺了……總之,就是被自己背叛了XD


LowlifeLurker

??


【“你以為祂為什么能在成為惡靈后存活那么多年而沒被發(fā)現(xiàn)?”】

MMarci

Is this implying He is to be replaced by Amon for the god ritual? Actually Amon was really buddy buddy with him so that wasn't ever a good sign for Him xD

這是在暗示他要在成神儀式上被阿蒙頂替了嗎?其實阿蒙和他看起來真的還挺像好兄弟的,所以這對他來說絕對不是個好兆頭啊XD


(回復(fù)樓上)Bard_Fall

???? Spoiler Hes arranged to become a sequence Zero Amon is obviously arranged to become Lord of Mysteries...

???劇透一下,他被安排成為序列0了,阿蒙絕對被安排要成為詭秘之主了……


【“執(zhí)掌好運(yùn)的黃黑之王……”】

Solterage

Genie: What's your wish? Klein: Kill me.

燈神:你的愿望是什么?克萊恩:殺了我。


Solterage

Also, as Visionary, Adam/ASG should have forseen this, right? This is no different than letting Klein go willingly.

而且,作為空想家,亞當(dāng)/遠(yuǎn)太應(yīng)該已經(jīng)看到了這一招,對吧?這和自愿放走克萊恩幾乎沒區(qū)別。


(回復(fù)樓上)Frosty_Wings

Wishing Lamp is a level higher than a deity.. At least he used to be. Adam might not even forseen this..

許愿神燈的位階比真神還要高……至少他以前是如此。亞當(dāng)可能沒辦法預(yù)見到這個……


(回復(fù)樓上)Solterage

Imo, I think it currently sealed self can't really block Adam vision.

我說真的,我覺得目前被封印的他沒辦法真正抵擋住亞當(dāng)?shù)囊暰€。


(回復(fù)樓上)SendNuds

Visionary here has the conotations of dreamer, not someone that sees everything, so no Adam/ASG doesn't know about this as long as Klein doesn't tell him (willingly or not)

這里的空想家指的是夢想家,不是能看見所有東西的人,所以答案是不會,只要克萊恩沒有告訴亞當(dāng)/遠(yuǎn)太(不管是自愿告訴還是非自愿告訴的),他就不會知道這些事情。

【這里存在一個歧義,就是visionary這個詞原本是由vision(視覺)衍生出來的,從字面上來看的確很有“看見一切”相關(guān)的屬性,但作為空想家,他們的能力更多與想象有關(guān),而非真實視野】


(回復(fù)一樓)bookoflogos

Maybe that's also one of Adam's plans

也許這也是亞當(dāng)計劃的一環(huán)


Braccer1

TRAP!!!

陷阱!?。?/p>


MMarci

To be honest I knew Klein had a backup plan because before descending he threw some stuff into a prayerlight as a precaution and it was never mentioned since xD Lots of big stuff happened right after in a chain, but as long as you give time to prepare, the performance of the Fool doesn't tend to dissapoint :D

說實話,我知道克萊恩肯定有后手,因為在他降臨之前,他把一些東西扔進(jìn)了祈禱光點(diǎn)以防萬一,而且之后就再也沒提過那到底是啥了XD突然就發(fā)生了這么多大事,還有一連串的連鎖反應(yīng),但只要給了準(zhǔn)備的時間,愚者的表演就永遠(yuǎn)不會令人失望:D


【1346章(倒吊人-80章)“空想家”的特殊】

CKtalon【英文譯者本人】

Adam/ASG/TC = Holy Trinity. Why hasn't anyone noticed that?

亞當(dāng)/遠(yuǎn)太/真造=三位一體。為什么就沒人意識到這個?


(回復(fù)樓上)ThisDaddy

Because author didn't want to.....duh

因為作者不希望我們意識到……噗


Tetractys

Okay, so it seems that the Adam we've come to know has always been ASG. He already managed to resurrect in some capacity beyond the contingencies of his other path through the True Creator. As for Red Angel being a sacrifice, has the Medici trio already perished off-screen for the Red Priest Uniqueness? That part, I'm a little confused.

好吧,所以目前看來我們知道的亞當(dāng)其實一直都是遠(yuǎn)太。他已經(jīng)成功以某種方式復(fù)活了,還繞過了他在另一條途徑通過真實造物主部署的后手。至于紅天使其實是個被犧牲的祭品,梅迪奇三人組不是已經(jīng)因為紅祭司唯一性在屏幕外的地方死過一次了嗎?這部分我還有點(diǎn)困惑。


(回復(fù)樓上)Bone_God

Unless ASG was trading the uniqueness to the Demoness then I don't think so. He's probably referring to how he was sacrificed by the Blood Emperor although I could be wrong and he got shafted a second time ??

除非遠(yuǎn)太是和魔女交易了唯一性,不然我覺得事情不是你說的這樣。他可能指的是他被血皇帝當(dāng)了犧牲品,不過我也可能猜錯了,也許之后他又被騙了第二次2333


(回復(fù)一樓)Aaaalison

Medici perished due to Adam’s scheme. He was always loyal to ASG (true creator later) so Klein felt pity for him

梅迪奇的隕落是因為亞當(dāng)?shù)年幹\。他一直都對遠(yuǎn)太很忠誠(還有后來的真實造物主),所以克萊恩對他感到憐憫


(回復(fù)一樓)Dex2

Do you remember waaaay back when Klein and Sharron spoke to that evil spirit Medici though Klein didn't know it was Medici? Klein said he had not heard of the Medici family and that evil spirit said, "they are a bunch of corrupted angels..." Perhaps this is why Medici had to be killed; something, either an outer deity or the sefirot had corrupted him. The other seq 1 angels at the time were likely just a bonus, killed "by the way"

你還記得很久很久以前,克萊恩和莎倫在克萊恩還不知道那是梅迪奇的時候,和紅天使惡靈的那次對話嗎?克萊恩說,他沒聽過梅迪奇家族,然后惡靈說,“那是一群被污染的天使……”也許這就是梅迪奇必須要死的原因:有一些不知道是外神還是源質(zhì)的東西,污染了他。同一個時代的另一個序列1天使很可能只是個添頭,“順手”就一塊殺了


Ozwin

Rofl don’t tell me, Klein left his worms up in the fog to regularly send the old fashioned “if you are receiving this message that means I was unable to prevent it from being sent due to being either dead or captured” but probably reversed so if Bernadette loses some feeling of being blessed or gazed upon, she is to wish for the death of Sparrow or something similar after trying to pray to the Fool and not receiving a response? Hmm maybe not that direct as it could lead her into thinking they are one and the same... but this is very likely a safety trigger set up by our ever prepared Klein.

我笑死,別告訴我,克萊恩在迷霧中留下自己的蟲子,只是為了定期給他發(fā)一條過時得不能更過時的“如果你收到了這條消息,那就意味著我要么死了,要么被抓了”……但也許是反過來的,這樣如果貝爾納黛發(fā)現(xiàn)被眷顧著或者被注視的感覺消失了,她就會先向愚者祈禱,如果沒有收到回復(fù),就試著許愿讓斯帕羅死,或者其他類似的行動……?唔,也許沒有這么直接,因為這可能會導(dǎo)致她覺得他們其實就是同一個人……但這很可能就是我們永遠(yuǎn)有準(zhǔn)備的克萊恩同學(xué)設(shè)置好的安全開關(guān)。


Demoneastz

Hahaha the man Himself had confirmed His identity! GG ASG! of all 7 deities, only Evernight had the suspicions? guess they are more brawny than I thought And, guess Magic Wishing Lamp is the back up plan, kek. I hope it won't make things worse for Klein

哈哈哈這個人已經(jīng)自證了他的身份!打得不錯啊遠(yuǎn)太!在所有七神之中,竟然只有黑夜有所懷疑?看來他們腦袋里的肌肉應(yīng)該比我之前猜的還要多一些。而且,我猜許愿神燈應(yīng)該就是后手了,科科,希望這不會讓克萊恩的情況變得更糟糕


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

But the high level trickery going on is no joke. Even Lilith who had the fate of Omebella managed to trick those like Ouroboros so they thought it was truly Omebella. The lie even lasted 1000+ years ????

但高層次的互詐技巧可不是開玩笑的,即使擁有歐彌貝拉命運(yùn)的莉莉絲也成功騙過了像烏洛琉斯這樣的存在,所以他們覺得那真的是歐彌貝拉。這個謊言甚至持續(xù)了超過1000年23333


Demoneastz

Btw, the way Adam/ASG calling the Hanged Man is cute, "True" ??

順便一提,亞當(dāng)/遠(yuǎn)太稱呼倒吊人的方式真可愛,“真實”


Sollkiri

Now the final battle between the Clown and Joker remains.

現(xiàn)在小丑和小丑之間的最終決戰(zhàn)還是注定要發(fā)生。


PyCode

I guess the outer deity in the wishing lamp really hates the Lord of the Mysteries.

我猜許愿神燈里的外神應(yīng)該真的很討厭詭秘之主。


AKirchner

Ha ha, so when Klein thought "Sasrir, you became Eve" (when he heard from Snowman that Sasrir was created of one of ASC's ribs) it was kind of a foreshadowing. ^^ Since Eve was created from Adam's rib according to Genesis.

哈哈,所以之前克萊恩吐槽道“薩斯利爾,你成為了夏娃”的時候(他從斯諾曼那里聽到薩斯利爾是通過遠(yuǎn)太的肋骨創(chuàng)造的時候),這在某種意義上也暗示了未來。^^畢竟夏娃在《創(chuàng)世紀(jì)》里也是由亞當(dāng)?shù)睦吖莿?chuàng)造的。


Surely_Panda

I wonder what ASG was like as a normal person before the whole change. He came from that facility so he may be a scientist and also deeply religious. What he is now though scare the heck out of me. The absolute lack of malice and anger in the way he commit atrocities such as encouraging a war is so unnerving. It feels like if one of his victim chewed him out in person, he would just smile, patch the poor guy kindly then break his neck without his smile slipping a inch.

不知道在世界劇變之前,遠(yuǎn)太作為普通人是一個什么身份。他是從那座設(shè)施里走出來的,所以他可能是個科學(xué)家,而且也有很深的宗教信仰。但他現(xiàn)在的樣子真的讓我覺得很恐怖。他一邊施行諸如鼓動戰(zhàn)爭之類的暴行,一邊卻又毫無惡意與憤怒之情,這個樣子實在令人覺得毛骨悚然。這感覺就像是,要是有個他導(dǎo)致的災(zāi)難的受害者之一當(dāng)面怒罵他,他只會微笑著,溫和地拍拍這個可憐的家伙,然后帶著他紋絲不動的微笑扭斷他的脖子。


Byakuei86

again i will say Visionary is too OP!! please nerf!! it look like this pathway is unbeatable even at same level deity vs deity if it 1 vs 1... i really want to see how Klein escape this crisis... for now i can only see 2 choice its either Evernight personally help him to die or that genie in the lamp that he meet before(since it is mention in this chapter.. i doubt cuttlefish will mention it without purpose)

我還是得說,空想家太掛壁了??!拜托削一下吧??!看起來這條途徑就算是在同等級真神1對1的情況下也根本打不了啊……我真的很想看看克萊恩要怎么逃脫這場危機(jī)……現(xiàn)在我只能看到2個選擇,要么黑夜親自出手幫他死掉,要么神燈里的燈神(既然這一章里也提到了……我覺得烏賊是不可能隨便就提這件事的)


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

It isn't unbeatable or else Ankewelt would have been the strongest among the ancient gods. Each has its advantages and mainly depends on a good user.

肯定不會打不了,不然安格爾威德早就是古神里最強(qiáng)的那個了。每條途徑都有自己的長處,這基本取決于使用者用的好不好。


【1347章(倒吊人-81章)支柱】——本章說

【永恒之暗、萬物奇點(diǎn)、時空歸一者:】

Observer98

So both this and LoM control space and time? How does that work?

所以這個和詭秘之主都能控制時空?這是什么原理?


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

It's different. LoTM is "King of time of space". This one the emphasis seems to be on the "singularity" bit where everything "starts" or "ends". Also, we've seen before that even when abilities overlap, the way they are achieved or the one with greater authority is different. For example, Seq 2 Klein can affect fate by changing the probability of something and Seq 2 'Error' can also tinker with someone's fate and even steal it...

這兩個不一樣。詭秘之主是“時空之王”。這個存在的重點(diǎn)似乎更多落在“奇點(diǎn)”上,奇點(diǎn)是一切的“開始”與“結(jié)束”。而且,我們之前也看到過,即使某些能力有重合,他們實現(xiàn)能力的方式或者擁有更多權(quán)柄的存在也是不一樣的。比如,序列2克萊恩可以通過改變某件事情的概率來影響命運(yùn),而序列2“錯誤”同樣也可以修改某人的命運(yùn),甚至竊取……


(回復(fù)樓上)Daoist3NDFA8

do you know balck hole,it’s kind of “space-time in one” that means end of the space-time.

你知道黑洞嗎,它在某種意義上就是“時空歸一”,也就意味著時空的終結(jié)。


MMarci

Wait if Klein becomes 'the King of Spacetime' and Evernight becomes 'Space-Time-in One' does that mean....well this can be interpreted in interesting ways :D

等等,如果克萊恩成為了“時空之王”,而黑夜成為了“時空歸一者”,這是不是意味著……嗯,這個可以用一些很有意思的方向來解讀:D


(回復(fù)樓上)Bard_Fall

different singularity is kinda obvious lol is more blackhole related than space time so more about gravity or death or cycle

奇點(diǎn)顯然很不同吧23333這更像是黑洞,而不是時空相關(guān)的概念,所以應(yīng)該是和重力,或者死亡,或者循環(huán)更相關(guān)


(回復(fù)樓上)MMarci

I was thinking more along the lines that one title seems to suggest a ruling relationship over spacetime, while the other title implies being spacetime itself :D If Klein is the king of spacetime and Evernight is Space-time itself that sounds kinda fun :P

我更多是沿著這條邏輯線來推測的,其中一個頭銜暗示的是對時空的掌控關(guān)系,而另一個頭銜暗示的是成為時空本身:D如果克萊恩是時空之王,而黑夜就是時空本身,那聽起來就挺有意思了:P


【“永暗之河”加“黑暗”唯一性、“死神”(永眠者)唯一性、“黃昏巨人”唯一性加1份“厄難騎士”非凡特性、1份“蒼白皇帝”非凡特性、1份“神明之手”非凡特性】

Tukang_Sampah

sequence 1 of Evernight is Knight of Misfortune?

黑夜序列1是厄難騎士?


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

Yes and the seq 0 should be "Darkness" (we see 'Darkness' uniqueness...???)

是的,而序列0應(yīng)該是“黑暗”(上面也寫了“黑暗”唯一性……)


idoking12

for a moment I thought it said you needed 3 more pathways for this...

有那么一瞬間,我還以為這個意思是說需要額外的3條途徑才能湊齊……


【“母巢”加“母親”唯一性、“月亮”唯一性加1份“自然行者”非凡特性、1份“美神”非凡特性。】

Tukang_Sampah

basically, Evernight and Lilith only need their respective sefirot to become a Great Old Ones

基本上,黑夜和莉莉絲只需要她們自己的源質(zhì)就可以成為舊日了


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

Though Lilith is in a bit of trouble since she also has to resist the corruption from the outer deity of whom the sefirot used to belong since that outer deity still has influence over it and the pathway. At least Evernight doesn't have an outer deity influencing her pathway ??

雖然但是,莉莉絲現(xiàn)在遇到了一些麻煩,因為她還必須得抵抗來自外神的污染,而那個源質(zhì)原本也是屬于外神的,所以對源質(zhì)本身和途徑都還有一些影響。至少黑夜沒有一個影響她途徑的外神233


(回復(fù)樓上)idoking12

...at least an alive one

……至少沒有一個還活著的影響她的外神


Tyrannical_Book

I i i i i i i sus everknight

我我我我我懷疑黑夜


【失序者、秩序陰影:】

Observer98

The combination of order and disorder leads to...anarchy? Seems to lean a bit too much to the Black Emperor side. Even the phrase "shadow of order" was once used to reference the pathway.

結(jié)果秩序與失序的結(jié)合竟然是……失序者?看起來似乎也太傾向于黑皇帝那一側(cè)了吧。甚至連“秩序陰影“這個詞都曾經(jīng)是專指黑皇帝途徑的啊。


(回復(fù)樓上)Skyfiend13

Yeah it came from Son of Chaos

是啊,畢竟是來自混亂之子的途徑


【“災(zāi)禍之城”加“魔女”(混沌魔女、原初魔女)唯一性、“紅祭司”唯一性加1份“末日”非凡特性、1份“征服者”非凡特性?!?/p>

elm_in_eden

So Demoness is always a woman and Red Priest is always a man... Is the Calamity of Destruction male or female!?

所以魔女肯定是女的,紅祭司肯定是男的……那災(zāi)禍之城到底是男的還是女的?!


(回復(fù)樓上)usernamenotfound

Good sir, may I introduce you to the wonderful world of futanari...

這位先生,請允許我為您介紹我們美妙的扶她世界……


(回復(fù)樓上)Dr_SaltedFish

So the end game of this pathway is futanari eh... That's really ********.

所以這條途徑的最后是扶她啊……那可真是xxxx


(回復(fù)一樓)IncarnationOfFate

It was answered by the author in a QA session that it will be a hermaphrodite

之前作者在問答環(huán)節(jié)回答過,這個存在會是雌雄同體


Dex2

I see. Seq 0 of demoness is "Chaos Demoness" or "Primordial Demoness"

我明白了。魔女序列0是“混沌魔女“或者”原初魔女“


bukvyrm

whatever they want to be.

隨便他們想變成啥吧(反正都能變)


【“知識荒野”加“隱者”唯一性、“完美者”唯一性加1份“知識皇帝”非凡特性、1份“啟蒙者”非凡特性?!?/p>

Braccer1

hermit??

隱者??


(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2

Seq 0 of Mystery Pryer = Hermit. Seq 1 of Mystery Pryer = Knowledge Emperor Seq 0 of Savant = Paragon. Seq 1 of Savant = Illuminator [Nodding head]

窺秘人序列0=隱者。窺秘人序列1=知識皇帝

通識者序列0=完美者。通識者序列0=啟蒙者(點(diǎn)頭)


Tyrannical_Book

not turtle hermit kinda disappointed

不是龜仙人我還有點(diǎn)失望

【龜仙人=英文譯作turtle hermit,海龜隱士】


【光之鑰、無盡的混亂、命運(yùn)化身:】

Anna_94

holy sht Baby will become the Fate itself,

我去,小蛇寶寶要成為命運(yùn)本身了


(回復(fù)樓上)Braccer1

he knows the fate of ice cream well

畢竟他對冰淇淋的命運(yùn)了如指掌


【“光之鑰”加“命運(yùn)之輪”唯一性加1份“巨蛇”非特性?!?/p>

TomoyaNagase

So the fate pathway only needs the key of light sephirot to reach great old one status.

所以命運(yùn)途徑只需要光之鑰源質(zhì)就能達(dá)到舊日狀態(tài)了。


(回復(fù)樓上)orenji0kun

so if baby will just accomodates the uniqueness and gets his hands on the sephirot, he doesn't even need to defeat the other angel of fate and can just jump straight to the status of great old one!

所以如果小蛇已經(jīng)融合了唯一性,然后把源質(zhì)拿到手,他甚至都不需要擊敗其他命運(yùn)天使,就能直接跳到舊日狀態(tài)了!


(回復(fù)樓上)Dr_SaltedFish

He probably has to brush up goodwill with like universal fate or something so the sefriot can appear at a particular spot, at a particular time that just happens to be in front of him lol

他也許必須要用類似萬能的命運(yùn)或者其他之類的東西來刷一刷好運(yùn)值,這樣源質(zhì)才會在某個合適的時間點(diǎn)出現(xiàn),最好是某個正好能直接出現(xiàn)在他面前的時間點(diǎn)23333


(回復(fù)樓上)Daoist3NDFA8

Yeah,this is the Fate Pathway,anything can be happen in any situation.....

是啊,這畢竟是命運(yùn)途徑,任何情況下任何事都可能會發(fā)生……


(回復(fù)二樓)Bard_Fall

Yeah at the same time is very fate dependent

是的,同時這條途徑又是非??疵?/p>


DJ_Yasaqua

We got all the Above The Sequences! Woohoo! \(^-^)/

我們已經(jīng)看到所有序列之上的名字啦!蕪湖!


【如果他和羅塞爾大帝能早點(diǎn)了解這方面的神秘學(xué)知識,各自都不會落到如今的處境。】

Shtriya

Yeah

是啊


Daoist3NDFA8

If you known earlier,then Great Old One and Outer God in cosmos will also notice you. you will be polluted and pregnant.

如果你早點(diǎn)知道的話,舊日和星空里的外神也會注意到你的。你會被污染然后懷孕的。


【聽到亞當(dāng)最后那句話,克萊恩忍不住低頭看了眼自己的左袖,“魔鏡”阿羅德斯就藏在里面。】

Tetractys

Arrodes! What are you doing there? Sneaky fellow.

阿羅德斯!你在這做啥呢?鬼鬼祟祟的。


ThisDaddy

Arrodes, Dear Arrodes

阿羅德斯,親愛的阿羅德斯


SilverCompass

but what will happen to arrodes if klein is to die here and revive in the grey fog? what about arrodes :(

但如果克萊恩死在這里,然后在灰霧中復(fù)活的話,阿羅德斯會怎么樣呢?阿羅德斯該怎么辦?


【要不是胸口插著一根染血的十字木樁,克萊恩肯定覺得當(dāng)前的交流氛圍不錯,好幾次恍惚間,他都認(rèn)為自己和亞當(dāng)是朋友,正在愉快地討論一些神秘學(xué)知識,等待對方的孩子阿蒙回家用餐。】

Chikage

Lol! It's been a while since he lampooned

哈哈哈哈哈!他已經(jīng)吐槽了有好一會了


【當(dāng)然,我是那個“餐”……不得不說,“觀眾”影響他人認(rèn)知、體驗和狀態(tài)的能力實在是太強(qiáng)了……克萊恩一邊告訴自己要警惕,一邊疑惑說道:】

bookoflogos

I'm dinner ??

我是那個“餐“哈哈哈哈哈哈


(回復(fù)樓上)Bunnybell

foodie become food! XD

當(dāng)吃貨成為被吃的貨!XD


draculemorningstar

heh kìnky

哎呦真騷2333

【弔圖】


【“簡單來說就是,如果黑夜能成為‘永恒之暗’、‘萬物奇點(diǎn)’、‘時空歸一者’,那祂可以更進(jìn)一步地占據(jù)‘魔女’和‘紅祭司’兩條途徑,包容‘災(zāi)禍之城’,成為真正的第四支柱,但到了那個時候,祂要么進(jìn)入沉眠,要么被動分裂,要么導(dǎo)致包括祂和我們在內(nèi)的整個宇宙消亡,重新開始?!薄?/p>

Tukang_Sampah

So, Evernight can becomes a legendary hidden boss

所以,黑夜是可以成為史詩級隱藏boss的


(回復(fù)樓上)BarbatosTheYonko

More like the most powerful suicide bomber.

更像是史上最強(qiáng)的自殺式炸彈襲擊者吧


(回復(fù)一樓)HeinousFox

I an looking forward for this plot, somehow I don't like her, but maybe she won't be a villain in this novel after all... Well, since she may go after the hunter pathway too, if she survives until the end of this novel, maybe in the sequel the new protagonist can have her as final boss, that can be good!

我還挺期待這個情節(jié)的,不知為何我不太喜歡她,但也許她在這本小說里根本不會成為反派……嗯,既然她也有可能會走獵人途徑,如果她成功活到了本書結(jié)尾,也許下一部的新主角會把她當(dāng)作最終boss呢,這就不錯!


(回復(fù)樓上)Hastev

why would a person want to become a bomb or a vegetable who will sleep and explode into smithereens when awaken

為什么會有人想要變成一顆大炸彈呢,或者一個只能睡覺,醒來就必須要爆炸成碎片的植物人


Anna_94

the fck klein your mom is scary, and that last sentence holy sht so there is possibility that Klein stuck in Limbo becauae evernight manage to ascend, it reset the entire universe again and again

我x,克萊恩你麻麻可太嚇人了,還有最后這一句,我去,也就是說有可能克萊恩會因為黑夜成功晉升被困在地獄邊境,她會不斷的重復(fù)重啟這個宇宙


Resirix

This seems more like a card to threaten the Outer Deities with rather than Evernight being the final boss. Like, "Stay away from our planet or we destroy everything"

這看起來更像是一張威脅外神的王牌,而不是真的讓黑夜成為最終boss?!半x我們的星球遠(yuǎn)點(diǎn),否則我們就摧毀所有一切“


Petyo1010

This seems like a giant foreshadowing for the end of the series.

這看起來像是對整個詭秘系列結(jié)局的重大暗示啊


XanTheInsane

So basically Azathoth, who dreams all of reality and if he wakes up... Reality itself just ends.

所以基本上就是阿撒托斯,他夢出了整個現(xiàn)實世界,一旦他醒來……現(xiàn)實本身就終結(jié)了。


Shtriya

somehow im more happy about this situation of her??????

不知為何我還對她這個遭遇挺開心的呢


【還有這樣的事情……到了序列之上這個層次,象征意義可能比權(quán)柄更重要……亞當(dāng),不,遠(yuǎn)古太陽神的神秘學(xué)知識簡直豐厚到恐怖,不愧是曾經(jīng)的準(zhǔn)舊日……克萊恩聽得一陣感嘆?!?/p>

Anna_94

damm so lord of the mysteries actually time travel. it symbolizes time and space right?, so do you guys remember in the earlier chapter when Klein meet a girl pretending to be Seer but she actually beast tamer from circus and then klein pick the Fool card. I wonder who she is. Maybe its LOTM travels back in time to help klein ??

我去,所以詭秘之主其實就是能進(jìn)行時間旅行咯。它象征的是時間和空間對吧?所以你們還記得不,之前的章節(jié)里,克萊恩遇到過一個假扮占卜家的女孩,但她其實是馬戲團(tuán)的馴獸師,然后克萊恩抽出了愚者牌。我在想她到底是誰。也許就是穿越時間的詭秘之主,為了推克萊恩一把……


(回復(fù)樓上)HeinousFox

I think you are thinking to low, he can be actually the first epoch Lord of the Mysteries you know, he can even be the one who sealed that other continent since it was where his home was supposed to be.

我覺得你想得太簡單了,你知道,他可能就是第一紀(jì)的那個詭秘之主啊,他甚至可能是那個封印了另一片大陸的存在,因為那里應(yīng)該就是他的家鄉(xiāng)所在的地方


(回復(fù)樓上)Tyrannical_Book

maybe 'He' is 'She'????

也許是“她“呢……


Shtriya

Emperor roselle is truly knowledgeable

羅塞爾大帝知道的真的很多


【他想了想道: “也就是說,‘不眠者’途徑的半神可以轉(zhuǎn)去‘魔女’途徑?”】

vincentatd

Bookmarked!

在這里加個書簽!


【“沒錯?!眮啴?dāng)目視前方道,“但這樣一來,就沒法成為舊日了,除非想辦法分離之前的非凡特性?!薄?/p>

Observer98

Demoness Leonard, coming soon to a theatre near you.

魔女倫納德,即將登陸您家附近的影院!


(回復(fù)樓上)LuluoO

Future madam Leonora

未來的列奧諾拉女士


Dex2

This means at just demigod levels, one can switch between any of the following: Sleepless ?? Death ?? Warrior ?? Red Priest ?? Demoness too bad those at lower levels will not know of this information.

這意味著在半神等級的時候,一個人可以在以下任意選項中互換:

不眠者??死亡??戰(zhàn)士??紅祭司??魔女

可惜的是,那些低序列的人根本不會知道這條信息。


【“初步擁有‘全知全能’權(quán)柄后,我就在推演成為舊日的方法和途徑,最終,找到了合適的配方,弄清楚了不同的象征。】

SilverCompass

hes so proud of himself, thats kinda cute tho

他對自己還真是挺自豪的,這還有點(diǎn)可愛


Daoist3NDFA8

Remember this!Math is useful in mystic world!

記住!數(shù)學(xué)在神秘學(xué)世界也是有用的!


【亞當(dāng)又一次側(cè)過腦袋,眼眸清澈地說道:“他太累了,想要休息,想要自由,哪怕只有幾秒?!薄?/p>

ldc2018

klein is so tired.

克萊恩實在是太累了。


LS10

Freedom, sure. Rest? He spent those seconds doing what he always does... hunting. Unless we're talking about the dying part... he's done that before also tho?

自由,當(dāng)然了。但休息?他在那幾秒的時間里做的也是他一直以來做的事情……那就是狩獵。除非我們說的是他想要死亡……但他之前已經(jīng)做到了不是嗎?


Tyrannical_Book

mountain Klein is very tired and want to retire

克萊恩扛了太多事情了,累了,想退休


pepepepeii

;_; oh klein

;_;哦克萊恩……


SilverCompass

klein needs healing :( hes been through a lot

克萊恩需要治療?他真是經(jīng)歷了太多了


【說到這里,克萊恩頓了一下,望向前方,嗓音低沉地問道:“你只剩下了神性?”】

HeinousFox

Is he asking if he still have his "humanity" side? (Let's pretend it's a good side.) Or just a power related question?

他這是在問遠(yuǎn)太還有沒有他的“人性“面嗎?(就讓我們先假裝他的人性面是善良面吧。)或者這個問題其實是和力量相關(guān)?


【現(xiàn)在,他收到了回報,那位貧民不僅沒有死亡,而且還實現(xiàn)了一些愿望!】

MellowtotheMax

Brainless Abraham indeed...

真是個沒腦子的亞伯拉罕……


【1347章(倒吊人-81章)支柱】

Foxvolant

...If I'm not mistaken isn't this Klein's chance to create a miracle? I feel like that's the only way out of this situation.

……如果我沒記錯的話,這其實是克萊恩創(chuàng)造奇跡的機(jī)會吧?我感覺在這種情況下這應(yīng)該是唯一的解法了


(回復(fù)樓上)Hegarde

Maybe Adam and Amon had already prepared countermeasures that would make his miracle useless

也許亞當(dāng)和阿蒙已經(jīng)準(zhǔn)備好了反制措施,能讓他的奇跡無效化的那種


Sollkiri

Now that everyone, is the right way to solve a puzzle. One more step for Klein's ultimate goal.

現(xiàn)在,所有人,都是解開這個謎題的正確方式。又向著克萊恩的終極目標(biāo)邁出了一步了。


Tetractys

A very nice exposition chapter. Klein probably has some ideas churning in his mind, but I'm not entirely sure how successful they'll be with a Visionary right next to him. It also seems Amanaises has some ways to go. Good luck to her! Also, Verdu is a simp.

非常優(yōu)秀的一章揭秘章節(jié)??巳R恩也許腦海中有一些想法正在翻騰,但我不是很確定如果有一個空想家坐在他旁邊,他們能有多大的成功幾率。而且看起來阿曼妮西斯面前也有幾條路等著她的選擇。祝她好運(yùn)!還有,維爾杜真是個癡漢。


(回復(fù)樓上)Chef_C

Klein is playing 20 questions, all these seemingly unhelpful to the situation questions will somehow help him figure out a way out of here.

克萊恩這是在玩海龜湯呢。這些看起來對現(xiàn)狀都沒什么幫助的問題,最終都會獲得火燒幫助他理清逃離這里的方法的。

【20 questions=字面直譯是20個問題,這是一種在19世紀(jì)的美國風(fēng)靡一時的口頭游戲,“回答者”選擇其他玩家(“提問者”)必須猜到的東西。他們輪流問一個問題,回答者必須回答“是”或“否”。這種形式其實和現(xiàn)在的海龜湯很相似,就暫且如此翻譯了】


(回復(fù)一樓)Gianoria

From what we just learn, if Amanises decides to be more than the Eternal Darkness, then she will be either asleep, dead or deadest (with everything else) So, no. Don't wish her good luck. And don't wish her misfortune either, she controls that.

從我們目前剛剛了解的情況來看,如果阿曼妮西斯決定要超越永恒之暗,那她要么得沉睡,要么得死亡,要么就是跟死了一樣(還有其他的一切)。所以,不會的。不要祝她好運(yùn)。也不要祝她倒霉,因為這是她掌控的領(lǐng)域。


(回復(fù)樓上)Dervyn

Amanises as the final, hidden big bad would be interesting if handled correctly.

如果操作得當(dāng),阿曼妮西斯作為最終隱藏大壞蛋應(yīng)該會變得很有意思。


(回復(fù)一樓)Reptile_Not_Alien

Who's he simping for?

癡漢?他癡漢的目標(biāo)是誰?


(回復(fù)樓上)Observer98

Mr Door probably. Despite a deity level existence telling him this is a bad idea he decides to mistrust that and seek the help of another deity level existence as long as they give him what he wants. This dude is definitely not going to have a good ending.

也許是門先生吧。盡管一個真神級別的存在告訴他這是個壞主意,他還是不相信,而且還想尋求另一個真神級別存在的幫助,就是為了讓這個神給他提供他想要的幫助。這哥們絕對不會有好下場。


Tyrannical_Book

mama Klein daddy Adam and daughter amon what a sweet family

克萊恩媽媽,亞當(dāng)爸爸和女兒阿蒙,多么溫馨美好的一家人啊


Byakuei86

thx for chapter now we all know all the above sequence... so even great old one have grade?? as expected of MC "luck" he on the right path to become 1 of the strongest great old one

感謝更新,現(xiàn)在我們已經(jīng)知道所有序列之上的名字了……所以甚至連舊日都有等級之分??不愧是有“主角運(yùn)”,他起碼走的是一條正確的途徑,能成為最強(qiáng)大的舊日之一


Lordfoxwillow

Just like Klien, ever the cowardly lion king, ask questions find clues pull himself out of the fire and create a miraculous scene that defies logic and makes you think he's not cowardly at all...he's a Fool!

就像克萊恩一樣,史上最茍獅子王,一邊問問題一邊試圖找到能讓自己逃出泥潭的線索,然后會創(chuàng)造一個奇跡般地場景,用一個縝密的邏輯,讓你覺得他其實一點(diǎn)都不慫……他是個愚者啊!


KriShna_Gurung

so this verdu mf doesn't trust the fool even tho he Clearly helped his family but he is willing to trust the god of war because he didn't killed a tramp and even fulfilled some of his wishes ? NANI?

所以這個混蛋維爾杜一點(diǎn)都不愿意相信愚者,即使愚者顯然是在幫助他的家族,但他還是寧愿相信戰(zhàn)神,就因為他沒有殺死一個流浪漢而且甚至實現(xiàn)了他的某些愿望?納尼?


Zarivon

Seems like Klein's only hope right now is the Tarot Club again? 1 prayer waiting, once enough of them pray will it be enough of an anchor for the worms in the castle to regain control and make a move? After this info dump I'm wondering if Klein will skip sequence 0 straight to Great Old One. Just has to beat the Half-Fool, Mr. Door, and Amon... probably in that order.

看起來克萊恩目前唯一的希望就又是塔羅會了對吧?1個祈禱者正在等待中,一旦湊夠了足夠多的祈禱,應(yīng)該就足夠構(gòu)建一個錨,讓源堡里留守的蟲子能重新獲得掌控權(quán),然后開展行動了?經(jīng)歷過這次的超大信息量之后,不知道克萊恩會不會直接跳過序列0達(dá)到舊日了。只需要打倒半個愚者,門先生,還有阿蒙……也許就是按照這個順序來的。


(回復(fù)樓上)Frosty_Wings

Doubt it, there's a deity completely blocking off his connection to the castle. Seems the wishing lamp is Klein's last hope.

我很懷疑這一點(diǎn),有個真神就能完全阻斷他和源堡之間的聯(lián)系??雌饋碓S愿神燈是克萊恩最后的希望。


LazyOracle

The other chapter not getting released?

今天沒有下一更了?


(回復(fù)樓上)HeinousFox

Sadly, I already come back to check more than 10 times in this last 6 hours, I am already starting to wish to get more busy in my work lol. But let's hope this is for the best, if I am not wrong the last chapter is the 1394 and we already at the 1375 in the privilege, maybe this is because a mass release to the end is comming! (And I am already feeling sad, lonely and empty now, I am feeling like an orphan without LOTM to read...)

悲傷的事,我在過去的6個小時里已經(jīng)來回檢查了超過10次了,我已經(jīng)開始希望我的工作能再多點(diǎn)了(好讓我不要再想),哈哈哈哈。但我們應(yīng)該先祈禱這就是最好的結(jié)果吧,因為如果我沒記錯的話,最后一章是1394章,而會員章節(jié)已經(jīng)到了1375,也許今天不加更就是因為結(jié)局爆更馬上要來了?。ㄎ乙呀?jīng)開始空虛寂寞冷了,沒有詭秘讀的日子我感覺我就像個孤兒……)

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