Yes, Prime Minister S02E08 The Tangled Web

Humphrey: Ah, Bernard, how is our great statesman this afternoon?

Bernard: Well, he's very cheerful.

Humphrey: Bernard, do you find something to be cheerful about?

Bernard: Well, at Question Time he did very well.

Humphrey: Indeed. In whose opinion?

Bernard: Everyone's. Everyone was impressed with his answer on tapping MPs' telephones.

Humphrey: Yes, I heard about that, but regrettably not from you.

Bernard: I didn't see any point.

Humphrey: Bernard, I coordinate all government security. Why was the question not referred to me first?

Bernard: It was an unforeseen supplementary.

Humphrey: A foreseeable unforeseen supplementary.

Bernard: It was a good answer. "Much as I respect and value the opinions of this house, I must confess I have no desire to listen to honourable members for any longer than I actually have to." It got a quite good laugh.

Humphrey: From you.

Bernard: Yes, and from his own party.

Humphrey: The ones hoping to be promoted or the ones afraid of being sacked?

Bernard: That's just about all of them.

Humphrey: I gather he denied that he'd authorised the bugging of an MP's telephone.

Bernard: Well, yes. Well, he hasn't, has he? Has he? He has? Crikey!

Humphrey: It's all here, Bernard, including the transcripts. Shall we…um…

Bernard: Come in even a bit longer? He doesn't get many moments of unalloyed pleasure.

Humphrey: I suppose he gets all he deserves.

Bernard: Prime Minister.

Hacker: Ah, come in, come in Humphrey!

Humphrey: Prime Minister, I want to talk to you about Prime Minister's Question Time this afternoon.

Hacker: Thank you, I accept your congratulations!

Humphrey: Well, I…

Hacker: Wasn't I brilliant?

Humphrey: Well, I'd…

Hacker: Didn't you think so?

Humphrey: Well, I wasn't there, but…

Hacker: Wasn't I brilliant, Bernard?

Bernard: Er…Well, I believe your replies this afternoon will not be quickly forgotten.

Hacker: Let me tell you what happened, Humphrey. The first question was about that Home Office cock-up over the shortage of prison officers. My reply was masterly! I said, "I refer the Honourable Member to the speech I made in this House on October the 28th."

Humphrey: Did he remember what you'd said?

Hacker: No, of course not. Neither did I, come to that. Still, it shut him up. The next one was about unemployment and whether the Department of Employment fiddle the figures.

Bernard: You mean, periodically restructure the base from which the statistics have been derived without drawing public attention to the fact?

Hacker: Exactly. Fiddle the figures.

Humphrey: Well, of course they do.

Hacker: I know they do. But I said I'd found no significant evidence of it.

Bernard: That's because you haven't been looking.

Humphrey: And because we haven't shown you.

Hacker: I know, well done, Humphrey. Then we went straight on to a googlie about the Department of Energy's plans for the disposal of nuclear waste. The question was trying to get me to admit that the Cabinet's divided.

Humphrey: Well, it is.

Hacker: I know that. So I said, "My cabinet took a unanimous decision."

Humphrey: That's only because you threatened to dismiss anyone who wouldn't agree.

Hacker:? It certainly made them agree unanimously. By this time, my back benchers were cheering my every word. We…then there we had a question about why it has been spent so much money on it, our new anti-missile missile was scrapped as obsolete the day before the first one came off the production line.

Humphrey: And how did you wriggle out of that one?

Hacker: Wriggle out? This was my master-stroke. My reply, Humphrey, was sheer genius. I simply said our policy adopted has not been as effective as we'd hoped. Clearly we had got it wrong.

Humphrey: You admitted that?

Hacker: Yeah. Brilliant! Wasn't that? Took the wind right out of his sails! Honesty always gives you the advantage of surprise in the House of Commons.

Bernard: There was actually a supplementary the Prime Minister was asked when he would request the resignation from the responsible minister.

Hacker: Too easy, I said I'd ask for his resignation when he makes a mistake that could've been seen at the time and not with the benefit of hindsight. They were on their feet cheering, stamping, waving their order papers!

Humphrey: I gather that there was a question about the bugging of an MP's telephone.

Hacker: Oh yes, I got a terrific laugh with that. I said…

Humphrey: I know, Bernard told me.

Hacker: I said, "Much as I respect" …

Humphrey: Yes, I know,? Bernard told me.

Hacker: Oh. Well, anyway, that was stupid. Why should we bug Hugh Halifax's telephone? One of my own administration! Where did they get such a daft idea? Sheer paranoia.

Humphrey: Yes, the only thing is…

Hacker: I mean, why should we listen in to MPs? Boring, stupid, ignorant windbags! I do my best not to listen to them. And he's only a PPS. I have enough trouble finding out what's going on at the Ministry of Defence. What could he know?

Humphrey: So I gather you denied that Mr Halifax's phone had been bugged?

Hacker: Obviously. It was the one question today to which I could give a clear, simple, straightforward, honest answer.

Humphrey: Yes, unfortunately, although the answer was indeed clear, simple and straightforward, there is difficult to justifiably assign to it the fourth of the epithets you applied to the statement inasmuch as the precise correlation between the information you communicated and the facts insofar as they can be determined and demonstrated is such as to cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear.

Hacker: Epistemological? What are you talking about?

Humphrey: You told a lie.

Hacker: A lie?

Humphrey: A lie.

Hacker: What do you mean, a lie?

Humphrey: I mean, you lied. I know this is a difficult concept to get across to a politician. You er…(MUTTERS) Ah, yes, you did not tell the truth.

Hacker: You mean, we ARE bugging Halifax's telephone?

Humphrey: We were.

Hacker: We were? When did we stop?

Humphrey: Um…17 minutes ago.

Hacker: Well, you can't call that lying!

Humphrey: What would you call the opposite of telling the truth?

Hacker: I mean, there was no intent. I didn't mean to deceive them. I'd never knowingly mislead the House.

Humphrey: Nonetheless you have done so.

Hacker: It wasn't my fault. I didn't know he was being bugged!

Bernard: Prime Minister, you are deemed to have known. You are ultimately responsible.

Hacker: Why wasn't I told?

Humphrey: The Home Secretary might not have felt the need to inform you.

Hacker: Why?

Humphrey: Perhaps he didn't know either. Or perhaps he'd been advised that you did not need to know.

Hacker: I did need to know.

Bernard: Apparently the fact you needed to know was not known at the time that the now-known need to know was known. And therefore those that needed to advise the Home Secretary perhaps found that the information he needed as to whether to inform the highest authority of the known of the information was not yet known, and therefore there was no authority for the authority to be informed because the need to know was not at this time known or needed.

Hacker: What?

Humphrey: We could not know you'd deny it in the House.

Hacker: Obviously I would if I didn't know and were asked.

Humphrey: We did not know you'd be asked when you didn't know.

Hacker: I was bound to be asked when I didn't know if I didn't know!

Humphrey: What?

Hacker: What?

Humphrey: It was thought that it was better not to inform you. You see, Hugh Halifax is one of your government team and as such it was thought it was better not to create distrust. We only tell you when you should be aware.

Hacker: When's that?

Humphrey: You should now be aware because you've just denied it.

Hacker: It would've been helpful if I'd been aware before I denied it.

Humphrey: On the contrary, Prime Minister, if you had been aware before you denied it, you wouldn't have denied it.

Hacker: But I needed to know!

Humphrey: We do not always tell you about bugging when you need to know.

Bernard: You see, at times, Prime Minister, we need you not to know.

Hacker: Why did you decide I didn't need to know?

Humphrey: I didn't.

Hacker: Who did?

Humphrey: Nobody. It was just nobody decided to tell you.

Hacker: It's the same thing!

Humphrey: On the contrary, Prime Minister. To decide to conceal information from you is a heavy burden for any official to shoulder, but to decide not to reveal information to you is routine procedure.

Hacker: Humphrey, I need to know everything.

Humphrey: Everything?

Hacker: Everything.

Humphrey: Very well. Stationery deliveries this week to the Cabinet office comprise four dozen packets of size two paperclips…

Hacker: No, Humphrey, Humphrey, don't be silly. I mean important things.

Humphrey: Who should decide what is important?

Hacker: Humphrey, how can you possibly defend this cock-up?

Humphrey: As you said in the House, we got it wrong.

Hacker: YOU got it wrong.

Humphrey: I, Prime Minister, I am merely a humble servant, a lowly official. The Home Secretary made the decision.

Hacker: And do you think of any reason I shouldn't ask him to resign?

Humphrey: With respect, Prime Minister, you should only ask him to resign when he's made a mistake which could've been seen at the time and not with the benefit of hindsight. But, you see, the trouble today has arisen because of your own error of judgement in making this denial.

Hacker: What?

Humphrey: You should not have denied something about which you did not know.

Hacker: That was your fault. You just admitted keeping secrets from the Prime Minister.

Humphrey: Not at all, Prime Minister, the system works perfectly well as long as the Prime Minister tells the Civil Service everything he's going to say before he says it. But if, precipitantly, he says something without first clearing it with his officials, he has only himself to blame. You must not say anything in public without first clearing it. With respect, Prime Minister, you must learn discretion.

Hacker: I didn't know anything to be discreet about!

Humphrey: In government, there's always something to be discreet about.

Hacker: Anyway, why are we bugging Hugh Halifax? Is he talking to the Russians?

Humphrey: No, the French, actually. That's much more serious.

Hacker: Why?

Bernard: The Russians already know what we're doing.

Hacker: But the French are our trusted allies, whatever you think of them and who doesn't!

Humphrey: No, Prime Minister, actually the French are our mistrusted allies. And that is why talking directly to the French is regarded as prima facie an act of treason by the Foreign Office who authorised it.

Hacker: I don't know.

Humphrey: You don't know what?

Hacker: I don't know who authorised it. Who authorised it?

Humphrey: Is there an echo?

Hacker: Humphrey, who authorised this bugging??

Humphrey: The Foreign Office! I've just said. Anyway, the less said the better. Wouldn't you agree, Prime Minister?

Hacker: About what?

Humphrey: About everything.

Humphrey: Obviously, one cannot refuse to appear before the committee of a House. And obviously, one shall have to tell them everything.

Bernard: Everything they can find out from other sources.

Humphrey:? Precisely. But they are likely to ask me if the Prime Minister has ever authorised the bugging of an MP's telephone. So, how should a loyal public servant reply?

Bernard: Er, well, you could say it was a question for the Prime Minister or the Foreign Secretary or the Home Office. Or there was a security matter not liberty to confirm or deny.

Humphrey: If I dodge the question, Bdo you know what the next question will be? Why will I not give the same clear denial that the PM gave the House yesterday?

Bernard: Ah.

Humphrey: What should I say then, Bernard?

Bernard: Well, you could say the Prime Minister knows more about it than you do.

Humphrey:? Then they'd know I was lying.

Bernard: ?So what will you do?

Humphrey: I don't know, Bernard. I just thought you should be aware of the dilemma. Would you like a glass of sherry, Bernard?

Bernard: Oh, yes, thank you. Sweet.

Humphrey: There's only dry. Incidentally, Bernard, the BBC rang this morning.

Bernard: The BBC know about it?

Humphrey: No, of course not, Bernard. They want to interview me for a documentary they're making on Radio 3 about the structure of the government.

Bernard: Gosh. You won't do it, will you?

Humphrey: Why not?

Bernard: They may want you to say things.

Humphrey: That is quite normal on radio.

Bernard: No, no, I mean interesting things. Controversy.

Humphrey: On the other hand, Bernard, one has a duty to put the record straight.

Bernard: You mean you want to do it?

Humphrey: Well, not for oneself, of course. No inclination for petty vanity, you know, being a celebrity. But one can be too self-effacing.

Bernard: I thought we were supposed to be faceless.

Humphrey: They don't show your face on the radio. Anyway, they've said if I don't do it, Arnold has said he would.

Bernard: Perhaps that would be better.

Humphrey: Arnold? For myself, I would rather not do it. But I think one's sense of duty compels one to see that Arnold is not held up as an example of a top civil servant.

Bernard: You'll need clearance from the Prime Minister…

Humphrey: Yes.

Bernard: …but that won't be a problem.

Humphrey: How do you know?

Bernard: Well, it's on Radio 3. Nobody'll be listening.

Humphrey: Ah, Prime Minister.

Hacker: Humphrey.

Humphrey: The Cabinet agenda, Prime Minister.

Hacker: Is it today you do your interview?

Humphrey: Oh, yes.

Hacker: Any problems?

Humphrey: Oh, no, no, no. I have some experience in dealing with difficult questions.

Hacker: How? If you're evasive or confusing on the radio, they just edit you out. You've really got to say something.

Humphrey: Say something?

Hacker: Something simple and interesting.

Humphrey: Simple and interesting. Or perhaps you could advise me, Prime Minister, particularly if the questions are aggressive.

Hacker: Oh, the more aggressive the better. That puts listeners on your side.

Humphrey: Nonetheless I may have to answer them.

Hacker: Why? You've never answered my questions.

Humphrey: No, no, no, that's different, Prime Minister. Ludovic Kennedy might ask me some perceptive questions. His researchers mentioned that lots of people are interested to know why so much power is centralised in my hands.

Hacker: Lots of people? Hardly anybody's ever heard of you, Humphrey!

Bernard: Perhaps they meant lots of Radio 3 listeners.

Hacker: That's a contradiction in terms! If he does say that lots of people want to know the answer to that question, you say, "Name six." That'll fix him. He'll never be able to remember more than two.

Humphrey: Oh, excellent, Prime Minister. Any more tricks?

Hacker: Tricks, Humphrey? This is technique. Attack one word in the sentence. Like frequently. "Frequently? What do you mean, frequently?" Or attack the interviewer, say, "You've clearly never read the white paper yourself, have you?" Or else ask your own question like "That was a very interesting question. Now let me ask you a question." See?

Humphrey: Oh, thank you, Prime Minister. Incidentally, that reminds me, I have shortly to appear before the committee to answer questions about the alleged bugging of an MP's telephone.

Hacker: Yes. Yes, Bernard told me. Well, you'll just have to confirm what I said in the House.

Humphrey: But that would be lying.

Hacker: Well, nobody'd know.

Humphrey: Oh, what a tangled web we weave.

Hacker: Humphrey, you must. Otherwise it'll look as though I was lying. Humphrey, you have a loyalty.

Humphrey: To the truth. I'm sorry, Prime Minister, I cannot become involved in some shabby cover-up.

Humphrey: So, whereas there must be inevitably be some element of shared responsibility for the governance of Britain, as between the legislators on the one hand and the administration on the other, the precise allocation of cause to consequence or agency to eventuality in any particular instance is invariably so complex as to be ultimately invalid if not irresponsible.

Ludovic: Yes, yes, I see, but could you be a bit more precise? I mean, how far is the Civil Service to blame for the present level of unemployment?

Humphrey: Yes, of course, unemployment is a single name applied by the media to what is a wide range of socio-economic phenomena whose most politically visible manifestation happens to be

Ludovic: Can you be a little bit more precise…

Humphrey: I'm so sorry, Mr Kennedy. You've asked me the question. Do allow me to answer it. There happens to be a current frequency of weekly registrations on the National Unemployment Register which is deemed to be above what has historically been held to be an acceptable level. But even separating out the component causes, let alone allocating the responsibility for them, is a task of such analytical delicacy as not to be susceptible of compression within the confines of a popular radio programme.

Ludovic: Sir Humphrey Appleby, thank you very much.

Staff: If that was a popular programme, what would an unpopular programme be like? Thank you very much, Sir Humphrey. Absolutely splendid.

Humphrey: My pleasure. Was I all right?

Ludovic: Well, couldn't you have said a bit more especially about unemployment?

Humphrey: Such as?

Ludovic: Well the truth.

(HUMPHREY LAUGHS)

Ludovic: Why do you laugh?

Humphrey: Oh, my dear Ludo, nobody tells the truth about unemployment.

Ludovic: No? Why not?

Humphrey: Because everybody knows you can halve it in a few weeks.

Ludovic: But how?

Humphrey: Cut off all Social Security to any claimant who refuses two job offers. There's genuine unemployment in the north, but the south is awash with layabouts, many of them graduates, living off the dole and housing benefit plus quite a lot of cash they pick up without telling anybody.

Ludovic: You mean moonlighting?

Humphrey: Well, sunlighting, really. Most employers will tell you they're short-staffed, offer the unemployed a street-sweeping job or a dish-washing job, they'd be off the register before you could say "parasite". Frankly, this country can have as much unemployment as it's prepared to pay for in Social Security. And no politicians have got the guts to do anything about it.

Ludovic: Oh, I do wish you'd said that.

Humphrey: I'm sure you do.

Bernard: Sir Humphrey.

Humphrey: Oh, come along.

Bernard: What's this for?

Humphrey: The BBC have just sent me this tape. Apparently, it's part of my interview. They say it's particularly interesting.

Bernard: Your interview?

Humphrey: You're surprised I said something interesting?

Bernard: No, no, it's just that I thought you intended to say nothing, as always.I mean…

Humphrey: Switch it on, Bernard. You may learn something.

Humphrey: My dear Ludo, nobody tells the truth about unemployment.

Ludovic: Why not?

Humphrey: Because everyone knows you can halve it in a few weeks. Cut off all Social Security to all claimants who refuse two job offers…

(WINDS TAPE FORWARD)

Humphrey: No politicians have got the guts to do anything about it.

Bernard: Sir Humphrey, that wasn't you, was it?

Humphrey: Yes, Bernard.

Bernard: But how could you say such things? Is there any more?

Humphrey: Yes, Bernard.

Bernard: As damaging as what we've just heard?

Humphrey: More damaging. I believe I referred to parasites.

Bernard: How could you be so indiscreet?

Humphrey: The interview was over! We were just chatting harmlessly!

Bernard: Harmlessly?!

Humphrey: It was off the record!

Bernard: It was on the tape!

Humphrey: Oh, my God, I've just realised! Blackmail.

Bernard: Blackmail?

Humphrey: Read that.

Bernard: "Here is a copy of your off-the-record part of the interview. We found it very interesting. We will contact you shortly."

Humphrey: What do they want of me, Bernard?

Bernard: The BBC? Licence fee up 50%?

Humphrey: Maybe it's a private blackmail by the producer.

Bernard: Maybe.

Humphrey: Doesn't he know I'm a poor man?

Bernard: Maybe he hasn't read you live in abject poverty on 81,000 a year.

Humphrey: Well, that, what am I going to do?

Bernard: Keep your mouth shut in future.

Humphrey: And so must you, Bernard! Don't breathe a word about this to anyone! Anyone!

Bernard: My duty to the…

Humphrey: Bernard!!! (SPLUTTERS)?

Humphrey: Oh, Bernard, what am I going to do?

Bernard: Well, perhaps you should put out a press statement expressing sympathy for the unemployed.

Humphrey: Sympathy?

Bernard: You may be joining them any moment.

Hacker: Yes, Bernard?

Bernard: Excuse me, Prime Minister, are you busy?

Hacker: As a matter of fact, I am. I'm expecting Humphrey at the minute. I've got to decide what to tell the Cabinet about this bugging business. Do I tell them the truth or do I tell them what I told the House?

Bernard: Prime Minister, if I may venture to suggest, perhaps you should behave to the Cabinet as you would expect the Cabinet to behave to you.

Hacker: Yes, you're quite right. I'll tell them what I've told the House.

(COUGHS SIGNIFICANTLY)

Hacker: Something else, Bernard?

Bernard: Yes, there is something that you need to know.

Hacker: Need to know?

Bernard: Yes, it's about Sir Humphrey's broadcast.

Hacker: Boring?

Bernard: Initially, yes. And then it livened up immensely as he became more and more indiscreet.

Hacker: Humphrey? Indiscreet?

Bernard: Well, he thought the broadcast was over. He was just chatting unofficially, but the tape was still running.

Hacker: He fell for that old dodge?

Bernard: Yes.

Hacker: You should always treat every microphone as if it were a live microphone. Doesn't he know that?

Bernard: Well, I don't think he has done a lot of broadcasting.

Hacker: Oh dear, what did he say?

Bernard: Something about being able to halve unemployment tomorrow, but the government hasn't got the guts.

Hacker: What?!

Bernard: He didn't know he was being recorded.

Hacker: And the BBC has the original? You know what this means, don't you? It means all over the papers tomorrow morning. You must do something, Bernard!

Bernard: Well actually, Prime Minister, I have already done it. I just had lunch with the producer. He and I were at Oxford together. And he didn't have any intention of releasing the tape, so I got him to give me the indiscreet bit from the master tape.

Hacker: This is the original? Does Humphrey know you've got it?

Bernard: Shall I tell him?

Hacker: Why??

Bernard: I think he'd like to know.

Hacker: I'm sure he would. But does he NEED to know?

Bernard: Ah, you mean somebody needs to know, but now you know, Sir Humphrey doesn't need to know, and you need to know Sir Humphrey doesn't know, but he doesn't need to know you know he doesn't need to know.

Hacker: Thank you, Bernard, I couldn't have put it less clearly myself.

Bernard: Would you like to hear the tape?

Hacker: Can you play this?

Bernard: Oh, no, not that. I got him to give me a copy.

Hacker: Oh, no, hold on. I think this deserves a wider audience. I think Humphrey ought to hear this.

(BUZZER)

Bernard: Yes? Oh. It is Sir Humphrey.

Hacker: What a happy coincidence. Would you ask him to join us, Bernard?

Bernard: Will you hold on a moment? Prime Minister, I did tell you all this in confidence.

Hacker: Of course, Bernard, and I respect your confidence. This is serious, you know, Bernard.

Bernard: Oh, er, yes, Prime Minister.

Bernard: Sir Humphrey.

Hacker: Ah, Humphrey, come in, come in, come in!

(CHUCKLES)

Hacker: How did your broadcast go?

Humphrey: Oh, very well, very well.

Hacker: What did you say?

Humphrey: Oh, nothing in particular. I pointed out some of the difficulties in allocating responsibilities as between politicians and civil servants.

Hacker: But you were discreet?

Humphrey: Why do you ask?

Hacker: Were you or weren't you?

Humphrey: Yes.

Hacker: Yes, you were or yes, you weren't?

Humphrey: Yes.

Hacker: Humpy?

Humphrey: Wouldn't you expect me to be discreet?

Hacker: Yes, of course.

Humphrey: There you are, then.

Hacker: Good. Well, that's all right, then.

Humphrey: Why do you ask, Prime Minister?

Hacker: Well, it's just that the BBC sent me a tape.

Humphrey: A tape? What tape?

Hacker: A tape of your broadcast. I thought we might listen to it. Together.

Humphrey: No, no, no, no, no!

Hacker: Why not?

Humphrey: It isn't at all interesting.

Hacker: Not interesting? The Cabinet Secretary talking to the nation?

Humphrey: Not VERY interesting.

Hacker: So you were too discreet? Play it, would you, Bernard?

Humphrey: My dear Ludo, nobody tells the truth about unemployment.

Ludovic: Oh, why not?

Humphrey: Because everyone knows you can halve it in a few weeks.

Ludovic: How?

Humphrey: Cut off all Social Security to all claimants who refuse two job offers. There's genuine unemployment in the North…

Hacker: Humphrey!?

Humphrey: I'm terribly sorry, Prime Minister, I didn't know! They didn't tell me! The interview was over!

Hacker: The indiscretion! The irresponsibility! Is there any more?

Humphrey: No.

Bernard: Yes.

Hacker: Play it, Bernard.

Humphrey: No.

Humphrey: They'd be off the register before you could say "parasite". This country can have as much unemployment as it's prepared to pay for in Social Security. And no politicians have the guts to do anything about it.

Hacker: You said that?!

Humphrey: It was Mike Yarwood.

Hacker: I'm in somewhat of a difficulty as to know what to do about this, Humphrey. I think I need advice.

Humphrey: Advice?

Hacker: Perhaps I ought to play it to the Cabinet, get their reaction.

Humphrey: Oh, please!

Hacker: Or the Privy Council.

Humphrey: Please!

Hacker: Or Her Majesty?

Humphrey: Oh, God!

Hacker: Do you realise what damage it would do if it got into the papers? How much damage do you think it would do to me? And the government?

Humphrey: I could say I got it wrong! I've checked and it isn't true!

Hacker: But it is true.

Humphrey: I could say it isn't! Nobody can prove it, it's never been tried!

Hacker: You'd tell an untruth in public?

Humphrey: Yes, for YOU! Prime Minister! We can issue a clarification.

Hacker: I think you've already made yourself very clear.

Humphrey: No, Prime Minister, a clarification is not to make oneself clear, it is to put oneself in the clear.

Hacker: Oh, what a tangled web we weave. Give me the tape, would you, Bernard? Now I've got something to tell you. This is a copy, but this is the original, the master.

Humphrey: You mean…

Hacker: They were retrieved from the BBC.

Humphrey: By whom?

Hacker: Intelligence.

Humphrey: So no one else will ever know?

Hacker: Well, that rather depends on what I choose to tell them. Of course, I could just hand over the tapes or I could hold onto them while I consider the security and disciplinary implications. I certainly have no intention of joining "some shabby cover-up". Oh, that reminds me, have you decided yet what you'll tell the Privileges Committee?

Humphrey: Oh, yes, yes, Prime Minister. I've decided that, in the interests of national security, that, um, the only honourable course is to support your statement in the House.

Hacker: And say that Hugh Halifax's telephone has never been bugged?

Humphrey: And say I have no evidence…

Hacker: No, Humphrey! And say the government has never authorised the bugging of MPs' telephones.

Humphrey: And say the government has never authorised…Supposing they find out the truth?

Hacker: You'll just have to say that nobody told you because you didn't need to know. Agreed?

(SIGHS)

Hacker: Splendid. That's settled, then.

Humphrey: May one have one's tapes back?

Hacker: Tomorrow. After the Committee on Privileges. All right, Humphrey?

Humphrey: Yes, Prime Minister.