【930章（不死者-198章）曾經(jīng)的組織】

MondSemmel

You're all taking Anderson Hood at face value, and maybe he *is* speaking the truth, but don't forget this Provocator's tendency to troll. When he originally met Gehrman Sparrow in the dream world, he told a grand tale that turned out to be a lie, and as a result almost got killed or left for dead by Sparrow...

你們都太相信安德森·胡德表面上的形象了，他也許*有*說實話，但不要忘記，這個挑釁者一直很愛耍人玩。他最初在夢境世界里見到格爾曼·斯帕羅的時候，他編了一個宏大的故事，結果發(fā)現(xiàn)全是謊言，而且最后差點被斯帕羅因此殺掉，或者說是勉強留了他一命……

?

（回復樓上）Alessan

Not too much of a surprise that the True Creator has control over some of the Hunter Pathway since ‘He’ used to be close allies with Medici before ascending to become a god. Medici didn’t die till later on either so it can reasonably be assumed they maintained their relationship even after that. Hunter pathway is pretty widespread too with the Sauron, Einhorn and Medici families all having access to high sequence potions as well as sharing some formulas with their (Intis, Feysac) governments.

I’ve also wondered why even if they Gods have potions they rarely develop organizations or believers of Pathways other than their own and especially Pathways that don’t connect. Just like the Evernight Church refusing to develop Seer Pathway beyonders and evening hiding the fact they have the formulas from lower leveled members. It seems like the True Creator is the only exception to this rule as we now know he has subordinates belonging to all of the Secrets Suppliant, apprentice and Hunter Pathways at minimum.

真實造物主控制了部分獵人途徑也毫不意外，因為“祂”成神之前和梅迪奇以前曾經(jīng)是親近的盟友。梅迪奇那時候還沒死，后來才死的，所以我們可以合理假定他們在那之后也保持著一定的關系。獵人途徑的傳播范圍也很廣，索倫、艾因霍恩還有梅迪奇家族都能獲取到高序列魔藥配方，同時還給他們統(tǒng)治下的z*府（因蒂斯，弗薩克）分享了一部分配方。

我也曾經(jīng)想過，為什么即使他們這些神手里有魔藥，他們也很少發(fā)展在自己途徑之外的組織或者信徒，尤其是和自己途徑不相鄰的途徑。就像黑夜教會拒絕提拔占卜家途徑的非凡者，甚至對低階成員隱瞞他們手里有低序列配方的事情。現(xiàn)在看來，真造可能是這里唯一的例外，因為我們現(xiàn)在知道他的手下至少包括所有的秘祈人，還有一小部分的學徒和獵人途徑。

?

Tetractys

Um, okay. Didn't expect that coming. However, since there are different factions maybe the Aurora Order and the Iron and Blood Cross Order are at odds with each other?

Most importantly, Anderson Hood has a good relationship with the Church of Steam, so the Iron and Blood Cross Order might not be evil.

嗯，好吧。完全沒想到這個展開。不過，既然會分成不同的組織，也許極光會和鐵血十字會是彼此互斥的？更重要的是，安德森·胡德和蒸汽教會的關系很好，所以鐵血十字會也許不是什么邪惡組織。

?

（回復樓上）Tetractys

(Continued) maybe the Iron and Blood Cross Order isn't evil. Also, Anderson Hood doesn't behave like a "normal believer" of the Fallen Creator. That is, he doesn't act like a crazy person.

（接上條）也許鐵血十字會不是什么邪惡組織。而且，安德森·胡德的舉止表現(xiàn)也不像一個真實造物主的“普通信徒”。我的意思是，他看起來不像個瘋子。

?

（回復樓上）Looogan

You forget that Anderson mysteriously survived that weird incident with the dreams and etc. while all the others lost control and turned into monsters.. maybe he didn’t go crazy because he already is! Not to mention he seems to be working unknowingly for a demigod or an angel of some pathway that can manipulate memories

你忘了安德森從一起詭異的夢境事件中神奇地生存下來的事情嗎，其他人全都失控了，變成了怪物……也許他沒有瘋掉只是因為他已經(jīng)瘋了！更不用說他似乎在不知不覺中為一個能操縱記憶的途徑的半神或者天使做事了……

?

（回復一樓）Alessan

Just because an organization worships or believes in something doesnt mean all the members do. Roselle didn’t share the same goal of reviving the Creator with the Twilight Hermit Order but he was still a member who was permitted to see the Blasphemy Slate.

一個組織崇拜或者信仰某種東西可不意味著它所有的成員都如此。羅賽爾就和黃昏隱士會的人目標完全不同，他并不想復活最初的造物主。但他依然是黃昏隱士會的一員，而且被允許觀看了褻瀆石板。

?

chillytaka

Coming Soon !

The revenge of the Fool

Main Cast : Klein Moretti, Sherlock Moriarty, Gherman Sparrow, Leonard Mitchell, Daly Simone, Ince Zangwill, Sealed Artifact 0-08

Supporting Cast : Soest, Red Gloves, The Evernight Goddess,...

Synopsis :

That day, he lose a dear friend to him. The killer, equipped with a stolen Sealed Artifact 0-08 able to escape from the scene while leaving dead bodies around.

Klein, once a normal person turned to a hunter able to rise from his death and start his investigation in the name of revenge for his fallen friends

Now, A grand play that bringing disruptive changes to the world is happening, will Klein be able to close the story of revenge or Ince will be the one to close the curtain ??

即將上映！

愚者的復仇

主演：克萊恩·莫雷蒂，夏洛克·莫里亞蒂，格爾曼·斯帕羅，倫納德·米切爾，戴莉·西蒙妮，因斯·贊格威爾，封印物0-08

配角：索斯特，紅手套們，黑夜女神，……

劇情簡介：那天，他失去了一個最親近的朋友。那個兇手帶著偷來的封印物0-08逃離現(xiàn)場，只留下滿地橫尸。

克萊恩，曾經(jīng)只是一個普通人的他，從好友死亡的陰影中重新振作，成為了一名獵人，同時以為死去的好友復仇的名義開啟了調查之旅。

現(xiàn)在，一場即將顛覆世界的盛大戲劇將要上演，究竟是克萊恩為這個復仇故事畫上圓滿的句號，還是因斯會成為能在這舞臺上站到謝幕的人？

【931章（不死者-199章）獲取情報的新方法】

Bellmount

News from China (no spoiler): the author finished Volume 6 last night, and he claimed that he had written the settings of every region at the beginning, but he did not want to write all details about every country IN THIS BOOK, or that will be too repeated and miscellaneous. Instead, he will write a sequel to carry out storylines in other regions, e.g. the West continent. But he might not write that sequel right after LoTM, since he had other insights to write...XD Anyway, it’s good to have something more to expect, since it seems like LoTM will be completed by May or June. :(

中國那邊傳來的新消息（無劇透）：作者昨晚完結了第六卷，而且他說他一開始就把所有地區(qū)的設定全都做好了，但并不打算在這本書里把所有細節(jié)都寫出來，不然內(nèi)容就太重復太雜亂了。相反，他會寫一部故事線接在這本書之后的發(fā)生在其他區(qū)域的續(xù)集，比如西大陸。不過續(xù)集可能并不會直接在詭秘完結后開始，因為他還有些別的想法要寫……XD不管怎么說，能有點盼頭總是好的，雖然看起來詭秘要在五月或者六月就完結了:(

（回復樓上）BluebellBerry:

I'm excited and sad all at once. Ty for the info!!

這消息讓我喜憂參半。感謝提供消息！?

?

（回復樓上）Baphonmet

Add some info I known：

He committed to work LOTM Trilogy（at least work the second one）

LOTM II maybe a sequel，or looking at Klein's struggle from the perspective of others.

LOTM III will be staged in the Western Continent another《LOTM》with oriental style.

再加一些我知道的消息：

作者確認詭秘應該會有三部曲（至少會有第二部）

詭秘二可能會是詭秘一的續(xù)集，或者會換個其他人的角度來旁觀克萊恩的努力和掙扎的過程。

詭秘三會以西大陸為舞臺展開，是東方風格的詭秘之主。

Alessan

Feels bad to miss a tarot gathering even if not much happened.

沒有塔羅會部分的感覺真的很不好，即使這次基本都沒啥內(nèi)容。

Aby55

Well Klein just got a direct response from the Evernight Goddess! Maybe she's the real waifu

呃，克萊恩竟然得到了黑夜女神的直接回應！也許她是真正的老婆

?

（回復樓上）BurntCabbage

If attracting the attention of a goddess is all it takes to get a waifu, then the Mother Tree of Desire or even Primordial Demoness Cheek could be a cadidate. The direct response he would get if he prayed to them would probably be pretty intense.

如果只要吸引到女神的注意力女神就算老婆了的話，那欲望母樹或者甚至是原初魔女奇克也可以算是老婆候選啊。他如果向她們祈禱的話肯定能得到直接回應，也許還會是相當強烈的反應。

?

Alessan

Damn I can’t believe that actually worked

我去，我簡直不敢相信這招真的管用

?

4pmbookstack

so that's why Ince Zangwill was pursued by a Demigod from Hunter's pathway when he aboard the ship. the demigod was attracted to him cause of the Law of convergence and Red Angel Medici

所以這就是因斯·贊格威爾之前在上船的時候被獵人途徑的半神追殺的原因啊。那個半神是被他身上的紅天使梅迪奇和非凡特性聚合定律吸引過來的。

Tetractys:

Since Ince Zangwell is possessed by former Red Angel Medici, and the spirit has the Red Priest Card, would Danitz and Anderson Hood be attracted to Zangwell due to the law of convergence?

既然因斯·贊格威爾被前·紅天使梅迪奇給附身了，而這個惡靈還有紅祭司牌，達尼茲和安德森·胡德會不會因為非凡特性聚合定律被吸引到贊格威爾面前？

?

（回復樓上）Aby55

Did they mention this before or did you deduct this? Or did you *shudder* use spoilers

他們之前提過這件事嗎？這是你的推理？還是你*顫抖*劇透了？

（回復樓上） Tetractys

Ince Zangewell has been possessed, Ince Zangwell has lost portions of his memories and had dirt under his fingernails due to 0-08, the identity of the spirit in the underground cavern was suspected to be former Red Angel Medici by Klein, the spirit tempted Klein and Sharon with the Red Priest Card, the spirit has vanished, Danitz and Anderson are known to be of the same pathway, the Hunter pathway which leads to Red Priest.

The only thing not confirmed is if the spirit possessing Ince Zangwell is Medici. Everything else has been shown in previous chapters.

因斯·贊格威爾被附身了，因斯·贊格威爾因為0-08的緣故失去了部分記憶，然后發(fā)現(xiàn)自己的手指上殘余著很多土壤的污垢痕跡，克萊恩懷疑地下洞*里那個惡靈的身份是前·紅天使梅迪奇，那個惡靈用紅祭司牌來引誘克萊恩和莎倫，然后那個惡靈消失了。已知達尼茲和安德森也是獵人途徑的，這正是紅祭司的途徑。

唯一一件沒有確認的事情就是，這個附身了因斯·贊格威爾的惡靈到底是不是梅迪奇。其他內(nèi)容前面的章節(jié)都提到過了。

?

（回復樓上）Amathyn

It's also important to remmeber that 0-01 has living characteristics that mean it will try to kill it's current wilder over time. Medici is probably its latest wat of achieving Ince's death.

還有一件重要的事值得注意，0-01有活著的特性，這意味著它會試圖殺死它現(xiàn)在的主人。梅迪奇也許是它用來造成因斯死亡的殺手锏。

??

（回復一樓）Alessan

The convergence (from the card) is only able to be felt by demigods. They shouldn’t be attracted unless Medici does something on purpose.

（褻瀆之牌的）聚合效果只有半神以上才會有感應。除非梅迪奇故意的，否則他們不會被吸引過去的。

Surely_Panda

I know I should be creeped put by Enzo who is basically a human shaped furniture at this point but for some reason watching Klein and Enzo just crack me up. Maybe it like watching a overworked CEO and a fawning yes man doing whatever the boss want.

Also what is the Goddess' end game here? Say she consumed death as another one of her domain bit won't all the excess power led to madness. Or does she intend on raising a "vassal" god?

我知道我現(xiàn)在應該被恩佐嚇得毛骨悚然，因為他現(xiàn)在基本上就是一件人形家具，但不知為何，看到現(xiàn)在的克萊恩和恩佐的樣子，我簡直要笑裂了。也許是因為我感覺就像在看一個諂媚的馬屁精正在想盡方法討好他累癱了的CEO吧。

而且，女神最終的目的到底是什么？如果說她想要把死亡作為她掌控的下一個領域，但不是所有多余的特性都會導致瘋狂嗎?；蛘咚胍B(yǎng)出一個“附庸”神？

【932章（不死者-200章）臉皮較薄】

MondSemmel

I wonder why Pallez Zoroast went silent. Klein Moretti might have made a huge mistake, revealing significant information about Dwayne Dantès and Mr. Fool, including their comparative lack of strength. At the very least, by asking Leonard for Worms of Time, it becomes very likely that Mr. Fool and his believers don't include any high-level members of the Marauder pathway. This significantly narrows down their secret identities, pathways and abilities to the experienced and ancient Pallez Zoroast.

(And conversely, if Pallez Zoroast provides such Worms of Time, *he* might be making a mistake, since Mr. Fool might be able to eventually use them to remove this Parasite from Leonard.)

不知道為什么帕列斯·索羅亞斯德會沉默?？巳R恩·莫雷蒂可能的確犯了一個大錯誤，暴露了某些關于道恩·唐泰斯還有愚者先生的重要信息，可能還有他們現(xiàn)在其實相對來說實力較低的現(xiàn)狀。最起碼，問倫納德要時之蟲，這就意味著愚者先生和他手下的信徒中并不包括任何偷盜者途徑的高序列。這對經(jīng)驗豐富而且古老的帕列茲·索羅亞斯德來說，他們所謂的秘密身份，途徑還有能力的范圍一下子就被大大縮小了。

（而且反過來說，如果帕列斯·索羅亞斯德真的給了時之蟲，那*他*可能也是犯了一個錯誤，因為這樣愚者也許就能利用這些時之蟲來把倫納德身上的寄生者趕出去了。）

?

（回復樓上）Surely_Panda

Or it could be interpreted as both a warning and admonition. It can be viewed as Klein pointing out that this is not a two men operation and rather than Klein calling in favoring, already a big on by appealing to the Fool, Meonard should pony up some resources. The resources being works of time, Klein can be see as saying "yes, I talked to Dantes and know who is backing Leonard. I know your power set so don't try anything funny"

或者這可以被認為是一個警告和告誡?？巳R恩這句話聽起來就像是點明了這次行動不止是一次兩人聯(lián)合行動，克萊恩已經(jīng)用眷者身份呼叫了大佬，愚者已經(jīng)在這次事件投入力量了，那倫納德也理應出一些資源。這個資源就是時之蟲，克萊恩感覺就像是在說“沒錯，我和唐泰斯聊過了，我知道倫納德背后站的人是誰。我知道你的技能都有啥，所以別搞什么花樣”?

Old_Wolf

Can’t wait for Ince zangwill to be sacrifice for Klein’s promotion and for that bittersweet revenge. The irony would be perfect

迫不及待想看因斯·贊格威爾成為克萊恩晉級儀式的犧牲品了，這甜美而苦澀的復仇啊。這種戲劇感一定很棒

?

（回復樓上）BluebellBerry

Been waiting a long time for this! I mean he actually "killed" the mc! Definitely didn't see it coming

我已經(jīng)等這一天很久了！我是說，自從他“殺”了主角那天起！那次真是絕對沒想到?

Tetractys

Uh oh, Mr. Grandpa has some explaining to do~

呃哦，老爺爺接下來得想想如何解釋了~

（回復樓上）Alessan

What does he have to explain? I think Leonard has known about many of his powers and his rough level for awhile now. Leonard had him use the Worm of Time to track Emlyn before as well.

他有什么好解釋的？我覺得倫納德對于他能使用的很多能力和他大概的層次已經(jīng)有不少了解了。倫納德自己之前也讓他用時之蟲追蹤過埃姆林啊。

MondSemmel

Wow, Ince Zangwill's position is worse off than I thought. We knew about the evil spirit beforehand, who obviously isn't necessarily on Ince's side, but it's news that Ince is in the Southern continent with no assistance from the royal faction and the Demonesses. He may be a sequence 4 demigod with tremendously powerful support from 0-08 and the remnant evil spirit made of multiple angels (as in, assistance on the level of sequence 1s or 2s), but his situation is *really* precarious, considering both the Tarot Club and an entire Church are targetting him.

哇哦，因斯·贊格威爾的處境比我之前想象的還要糟糕啊。之前我們就知道惡靈的事情，他顯然不一定是和因斯一條心的，但因斯在南大陸毫無助力，既沒有皇派的幫助，也沒有魔女的協(xié)助，這可就是個新消息了。他作為序列4半神，手中有威力極強的0-08輔助，還有多名天使殘片融合的惡靈（這大概等同于序列1或序列2級別的輔助吧），但考慮到塔羅會和整個黑夜教會都在追殺他，他的狀況也是*真的*很危急啊。

sunrize:

What if the goddess manipulated behind the scenes from the very beginning? Don't you remember how that entire story began? There was a crimson moon in the skies (which is evernight goddess symbol), the place of rebirth was selected that it was in the area of nighthawks. There is azik's sorry too. Then there is a vow to the sacred sword and our mc entered the ranks of god believers. But are evil gods and 7 orthodox ones are such different? It isn't easy to escape god's eyes once you become it's believer (the latest events confirm it). So in my opinion the greatest enemy in the later chapters will be the evernight goddess

如果黑夜女神從一開始就在幕后操縱了一切呢？你們都不記得整個故事是怎么開始的了嗎？天空中掛著紅月（而這正是黑夜女神的標志），他重生的位置正好被選擇在了值夜者管轄的區(qū)域。當然也是阿茲克的位置，抱歉。然后就是對女神的圣劍發(fā)誓的部分了，主角因此進入了神明信徒的行列。但其他的邪神和七位正神究竟有有什么不同？一旦成了信徒，想要逃過神明的眼睛可就沒那么容易了（最近的事件完全證明了這一點）。所以在我看來，最后幾章里最大的敵人肯定就是黑夜女神

?

（回復樓上）Dex2

You're assuming a lot. So far, she hasn't shown herself as an enemy. Let me use some examples:

? She saved him when fighting Mr. A and even smiled at him

? She "disciplined" him when he broke in to steal from the church and banished him to that foggy town.

But while he was there, when Panatiya was about to kill him, the crimson moon appeared and she had to flee hence giving Klein a chance.

We know the goddess has some authority over the moon.

? Through her monitoring of him, she could respond quickly and save him when Azik was about to merge with artificial death.

Even though she benefited by taking the uniqueness in the end, she did give Azik the choice of continuing to merge.

Even now, she has answered his question through artificial death which she is in control of.

Think of what Orange Light, Hilarion told Klein: high level beings that can detect his unique trait are of two types,

? those who want to take control like mother tree

? those who simply see his potential and want to be friendly

I'm not saying it's impossible she has other schemes but to suspect her that much when she has been friendly doesn't seem right. It's better to have Klein's attitude (use the benefits but be careful)

你想的也太多了。目前為止，她并沒有表現(xiàn)出任何敵意啊。我來舉幾個例子：

?她在克萊恩和A先生戰(zhàn)斗的時候救下了他，甚至還給了他一個微笑

?克萊恩闖入教堂盜竊的時候，她小小地“懲戒”了一下他，把他放逐到了那個濃霧小鎮(zhèn)。但克萊恩在里面的時候，潘娜蒂亞一想殺他，里面的紅月就會出現(xiàn)，然后她就不得不立刻逃走，才給克萊恩喘息的機會。我們都知道這正是黑夜女神的標志。

?通過她對他的監(jiān)控，她才能快速做出反應，在阿茲克即將被人造死神融合的時候救下他。雖然她最后也的確因為得到唯一性獲得了好處，她也給了阿茲克繼續(xù)進行融合的選擇啊。即使是現(xiàn)在，她也會通過自己控制的人造死神來回答他的問題。

想想橙光希拉里昂對克萊恩說的：能發(fā)現(xiàn)他特異之處的高階存在有兩種，

? 想要控制他的，比如母樹

? 因為只是單純地看中了他的潛力，想要與他交好的

我也不是說她不可能有什么陰謀，但在她一直表現(xiàn)的很友好的情況下，這么懷疑她好像不太好吧。最好還是保持克萊恩這樣的態(tài)度（在享受這些好處的同時保持謹慎）