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【龍騰網(wǎng)】為什么中國很擅長修路

2022-10-24 18:03 作者:龍騰洞觀  | 我要投稿

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The First Asian Country which hired Canadian, British firms to prepare a 30 year future plan for Road Layouts as early as 1980 was Singapore under its visionary PM - Lee Kuan Yew (Father of the Current PM).
These Roads were made with Laterite Compression, Inorganic Clays and High Grade Asphalt and Rubber Polymer to bind the materials.
It was originally developed by Germany in 1935 and Britain in 1952.
During the same time - Chinese Roads were like Indian Roads. Tar, Gravel in a mix and lasting for 3 months - 12 months and being damaged by the slightest monsoon.
In the 1990s - The Chinese began to slowly and steadily penetrate the Civil Engineering Industry in Singapore through its premier universities- National University of Singapore and Nanyang Technological University and Chinese civil engineering professors became consultants with the PUB (Public Utilities Board) and the other construction companies like Sembawang Constructions etc.

早在1980年,新加坡就是第一個(gè)聘請(qǐng)加拿大、英國公司為未來30年的道路規(guī)劃做準(zhǔn)備的亞洲國家,當(dāng)時(shí)新加坡的總理是富有遠(yuǎn)見的李光耀(現(xiàn)任總理之父)。
這些道路是由紅土壓縮,無機(jī)粘土制成,并使用優(yōu)質(zhì)瀝青和橡膠聚合物粘合材料。
它最初由德國于1935年和英國于1952年開發(fā)。
在同一時(shí)期,中國的道路就像印度的道路一樣,混合了瀝青和礫石,可以使用3個(gè)月到12個(gè)月,但是哪怕是輕微的季風(fēng)都會(huì)破壞它們。
20世紀(jì)90年代,中國人開始通過新加坡國立大學(xué)和南洋理工大學(xué)等一流大學(xué)緩慢而穩(wěn)定地滲透新加坡土木工程行業(yè),中國土木工程教授成為PUB(公共事業(yè)委員會(huì))和其他建筑公司(如Sembawang Constructions等)的顧問。


They began to slowly develop their own roads on the new 30 year model in 1992 (Meaning that in 1992 - they would plan for 2022 traffic and in 2007 they would modify for 2037) and used the same road building skill that the Singaporeans had become experts in thanks to the Britishers and the Canadians.
By 2005 - The Chinese were adept at Road Building and Traffic Planning and were better than any other country leaving even Singapore or Canada far far behind. Only Israel is ahead of them today.
Todays Chinese Roads are better than any other in Asia including Japan in terms of Grading and Planning.
They literally stole the art of Road Building and Traffic Management from the Singaporeans and bettered and modified it within 20 years to become the Worlds Best.

1992年,他們開始30的規(guī)劃,緩慢開發(fā)自己的道路(這意味著在1992年——他們將計(jì)劃2022年的交通量,在2007年,他們將修改2037年的交通流量),并使用了新加坡傳授自英國和加拿大的道路建設(shè)技能。
到2005年,中國人擅長道路建設(shè)和交通規(guī)劃,比任何其他國家都要好,甚至新加坡或加拿大也遠(yuǎn)遠(yuǎn)落后。今天只有以色列領(lǐng)先他們。
目前,中國道路在坡度和規(guī)劃方面比包括日本在內(nèi)的亞洲國家都要好。
他們實(shí)際上從新加坡人那里Q取了道路建設(shè)和交通管理的藝術(shù),并在20年內(nèi)對(duì)其進(jìn)行了改進(jìn)和改進(jìn),使其成為世界最佳。


Honestly, nothing is more infuriating to any man in India than roads. Your status may let you get away with poverty, negativity, crimes but almost everyone suffers the plague of horrible roads, even in metro cities.

說實(shí)話,在印度,沒有什么比公路更讓人憤怒的了。你的身份可能讓你擺脫貧窮、混亂和犯罪,但幾乎每個(gè)人都遭受著糟糕道路的折磨,即使是在大都市。


Ooh god, don't even mention the condition of roads in India…few weeks back they dug a huge hole in my street and blocked full line in my colony, for laying drainage pipe lines…due to rain, it's full of water like river..it's been a month it's still not changed lol

別提印度的道路狀況了,幾周前他們?cè)诮稚贤诹艘粋€(gè)大坑,堵了社區(qū)的整條路,用來鋪設(shè)排水管道,因?yàn)橄掠?,到處都是水,像河流一樣。已?jīng)一個(gè)月了,還是沒變,哈哈
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Absolutely. Destroying something for a project and then leaving it midway is so common

是這樣的。為了一個(gè)工程破壞破壞一個(gè)地方,然后中途放棄它是很常見的


And you know, we do have the technical know-how to make good roads (I have never seen potholes in the roads maintained by GVK at mumbai airport) it is just that there are a lot of corrupt officials and contractors that deserved to be fired

但其實(shí),我們有這個(gè)技術(shù)來修路(我從未見過GVK在孟買機(jī)場(chǎng)維護(hù)的道路有坑洼),只是有很多腐敗官員和承包商應(yīng)該被解雇


If corrupt people are just fired then you know where the problem is. Such people need to be punished severely to deter others.

如果腐敗的人只是被解雇,那么這就是問題所在。這樣的人應(yīng)該受到嚴(yán)懲,以震懾他人。


Yes, our soldiers are fighting there, but what does that have to do with condition of roads in our country?

是的,我們的士兵在那里作戰(zhàn),但這和我們國家的道路狀況有什么關(guān)系?


If India had good roads, Chinese will walk right in. But because they’re now used to good roads, they cannot navigate potholes.
This is a top level defense strategy of India. No one can beat the thinking of a Gujarati mind.

如果印度有好的道路,中國人就會(huì)直接沖進(jìn)來。但由于他們現(xiàn)在已經(jīng)習(xí)慣了平坦的道路,無法在坑坑洼洼的道路上行駛。
這是印度的最高國防戰(zhàn)略。沒有人能打敗古吉拉特人的思維。
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Roads weren't any better in Congress era though.

國大黨時(shí)代的道路也好不到哪里去。


We have mud roads. Best in the world.

我們有泥路。世界上最好的。


Obvious reason why any of our government is not building such quality roads. For the councilors and other low level bureaucrats to get their cut. These are the people who keep their party functioning.
They usually wait till the election to put an extra layer above the existing road.
I was always thinking how hard it is to build a road that lasts 10 to 15 years?

這就是為什么我們的政府不修建高質(zhì)量的道路。得讓議員和其他低級(jí)官員分得一杯羹。這些人維持著他們的政黨運(yùn)轉(zhuǎn)。
他們通常要等到選舉的時(shí)候給現(xiàn)有的道路上升級(jí)。
我一直在想修建一條持續(xù)10到15年的公路到底有多難?


What would it take to start a country wide demand for better quality roads and no water logging? In the era of social media, we can make this issue mainstream and force every govt to do something about it.

怎樣才能在全國范圍內(nèi)引發(fā)對(duì)更好質(zhì)量的道路和無內(nèi)澇的需求呢?在社交媒體時(shí)代,我們可以讓這種需求成為主流意識(shí),并迫使每屆政府對(duì)此采取行動(dòng)。


Nothing. 67% of India is rural and I can assure that they don't really vote for roads.

沒辦法的,67%的印度是農(nóng)村地區(qū),我可以保證他們不會(huì)投票贊成修路。


Because they are never told about kind of prosperity which comes with better infra and accessibility. Sad reality is that people have accepted pot holes and water logging as normal. In a civilized society, this should be simply unacceptable.

因?yàn)樗麄儚膩頉]有被告知繁榮是由更好的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施和交通帶來的。可悲的現(xiàn)實(shí)是,人們已經(jīng)習(xí)慣了坑洞和積水。在文明社會(huì)中,這是完全不可接受的。


Civilised society is the key word here.

你說了是文明社會(huì)里


People vote based on caste and religion unfortunately. Nobody cares about infrastructure and other issues.

不幸的是,人們?yōu)榉N姓和宗教投票。沒人關(guān)心基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施和其他問題。


You might not know this, but Germans, Britishers, Canadians, Singaporeans and finally Chinese people got this technical idea from Hindutva book Vedas.
Road from Ayodhya to Rameswaram was built with the same technology.
We should be proud of our culture and religion.

你可能不知道,但德國人、英國人、加拿大人、新加坡人,還有中國人,都是從印度教的吠陀經(jīng)中得到這個(gè)技術(shù)理念的。
從阿約提亞到拉梅斯瓦拉姆的公路也是用同樣的技術(shù)建造的。
我們應(yīng)該為我們的文化和宗教感到驕傲。


in my opinion,cultural and nationalistic pride should be about making your country the best in the world in terms of everything
the japan was among the few asian countries or perhaps the only asian country that resisted colonization,industrialized itself and protected it’s culture yet after ww2,they were pushed back to the stone age
the japanese had this spirit of becoming the best in the world and just look where they are now
coming back to india,our rich history should ideally motivate people to make india the greatest again
instead what we do is live in the glory of our past and keep saying “ye sab hamare yaha pehle se tha”
and ofc whatsapp forwards
as a result,today’s india is an insult to bharat
during the reign of say ashoka the great,we dominated almost everything and we were very much ahead of the rest of the world
yet today parts of many indian “cities” look like villages and lack basic things
china has lived upto it’s ancient name,we have not.

在我看來,文化和民族自豪感應(yīng)該使你的國家在所有方面做到世界上最好
日本是少數(shù)幾個(gè)亞洲國家之一,也許是唯一一個(gè)亞洲國家,抵制殖民,工業(yè)化,保護(hù)自己的文化,但二戰(zhàn)后,他們被打回到石器時(shí)代
日本人有成為世界上最好的精神,看看他們現(xiàn)在的位置
回到印度,我們豐富的歷史應(yīng)該激勵(lì)人們讓印度再次成為最偉大的國家
相反,我們所做的是活在過去的榮耀中,不斷地說“ye sab hamare yaha pele se tha”。
今天的印度是對(duì)印度的侮辱
在阿育王統(tǒng)治時(shí)期,我們幾乎統(tǒng)治了一切,我們遠(yuǎn)遠(yuǎn)領(lǐng)先于世界其他國家
然而,今天許多印度“城市”的部分地區(qū)看起來像村莊,缺乏基本的東西
中國沒有辜負(fù)它古老的名字,而我們沒有。


What is Hindutva book Vedas. Do you have any source that claims that the Vedas had anything to do with road construction? There is a difference between sarcasm and sheer idiocy. Blaming religion for the lethargy and corruption of the citizens of this country (including you and me) is just keyboard

什么是印度教吠陀經(jīng)?你有任何資料來源聲稱《吠陀經(jīng)》與道路建設(shè)有關(guān)嗎?諷刺和純粹的愚蠢是有區(qū)別的。把這個(gè)國家的公民(包括你和我)的冷漠和腐敗歸罪于宗教只是鍵盤


You must be fun at parties, people must be dying to hang out with you.

你在聚會(huì)上一定很有趣,人們一定很想和你一起出去玩。


Oh? Then please provide me a concrete proof(oh not some YouTube video or some sites). Provide me something scientific and that too from authenticated research sites.
Get out of it already. Stop bringing religion and culture on to everything dude.

哦?然后請(qǐng)?zhí)峁┙o我一個(gè)具體的證據(jù)(不是一些YouTube視頻或一些網(wǎng)站)。為我提供一些科學(xué)的東西,必須得來自認(rèn)證的研究網(wǎng)站。
別把宗教和文化扯到任何事情上了,伙計(jì)。


Here we steal tax payers money and lay cement roads which also get damaged by monsoons.

我們?cè)谕导{稅人的錢,鋪會(huì)被季風(fēng)摧毀的水泥路


We, the public of India are at fault. We don’t question back our government or authorities rather just complain and criticize only among peers. We never go beyond that.
We are busy ranting, complaining, and mocking china about “CHINA PRODUCT” many times again and again, but will never learn a thing from CHINA, or any developing/developed countries. We don’t act, instead, we stay NEUTRAL, na idhar ka, na udhar ka.
And we love being in our comfort zones doing nothing. That is the saddest reality of our country.
I don’t understand, why people don’t realize that we Indians get so-called CHINESE MAAL (products) of utterly low quality only because the sellers of India demand for it, cause there exists such customers who buy it. Had there been no DEMAND, SUPPLY wouldn’t have existed for the same.
CHINESE doesn’t use the same quality, but only exports when low quality is being asked. As simple as that. One can easily know that by simply looking about China anywhere in the internet. Instead, we should learn a lot from them. Learning something wouldn’t make anyone ANTI-NATIONAL, cause we Indians are more worried about what people around us would say if we do certain things, and hence we do nothing so that no one could point a finger towards us.
LOL.

我們印度人民有錯(cuò)。我們不會(huì)質(zhì)疑我們的政府或當(dāng)局,而只是在同行之間抱怨和批評(píng)。我們從來沒有超出這個(gè)范圍。
我們忙著一次又一次地就“中國貨”咆哮、抱怨和嘲笑中國,但從來沒有從中國或任何發(fā)展中國家學(xué)到任何東西。我們不采取行動(dòng),而是保持中立
我們喜歡呆在舒適區(qū),什么都不做。這是我們國家最悲哀的現(xiàn)實(shí)。
我不明白,為什么人們沒有意識(shí)到,我們印度人得到質(zhì)量極低的所謂中國產(chǎn)品,只是因?yàn)橛《荣u家有需求,因?yàn)橛羞@樣的客戶購買。如果沒有需求,供給也不會(huì)存在。
中國人自己不使用同樣低質(zhì)量的商品,只在被要求的時(shí)候出口低質(zhì)量商品。就這么簡(jiǎn)單。只要在互聯(lián)網(wǎng)上隨便找一個(gè)關(guān)于中國的內(nèi)容,你就能很容易地知道這一點(diǎn)。相反,我們應(yīng)該從他們身上學(xué)到很多東西。學(xué)習(xí)一些東西并不會(huì)讓任何人叛國,因?yàn)槲覀冇《热烁鼡?dān)心如果我們做了某些事情,周圍的人會(huì)說什么,因此我們什么都不做,這樣就沒有人會(huì)指責(zé)我們。
哈哈


Chinese have taken Sanskrit books from Nalanda and found the ancient Indian secrets. Thats why they are so much developed today.Nehru is respondible for this. Due to his ‘ Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai’ policy many Chinese scholers were given free visa to visit India. These scholers stole the entire ancient knowledge from us.

中國人從那爛陀帶走了梵文書籍,發(fā)現(xiàn)了古印度的秘密。這就是他們今天如此發(fā)達(dá)的原因。尼赫魯對(duì)此負(fù)有責(zé)任。由于他的“印度-中國親如兄弟”政策,許多中國學(xué)者獲得了訪問印度的免費(fèi)簽證。這些學(xué)者Q取了我們所有的古老知識(shí)。


I only hope it is sarcasm. But there is not a tinge of it in the tone.

我只希望這是諷刺。但他的語氣里卻沒有一絲諷刺的語氣


How come we can’t build such roads in India? Where are we lacking?

為什么我們不能在印度修這樣的公路?我們還欠缺什么?


The better question would be where are we NOT lacking?

更好的問題應(yīng)該是我們不缺什么?


Indians need to demand for Expressway over conventional highway roads.
Both are different and till now we have the lowest no.of such Expressways amongst developing countries.
We have only 1200kms of such expressway, while China has nearly 15000kms of such Expressways.

印度人需要高速公路,而不是傳統(tǒng)的公路。
兩者都是不同的,到目前為止我們?cè)诎l(fā)展中國家中的高速公路排名中是最低的。
我們只有1200公里的高速公路,而中國有近1.5萬公里的高速公路。


China's expressway network was already spanning more than 120,000 kms even at the time of you posting your comment.

在你發(fā)表評(píng)論的時(shí)候,中國的高速公路網(wǎng)已經(jīng)超過12萬公里。


I have travelled to Guangzhou and Shenzhen in China. It's so true their roads are not just good but have brilliant connectivity.

我去過中國的廣州和深圳。這是真的,他們的道路不僅質(zhì)量高,而且規(guī)劃的也很好。


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