詭秘外國網(wǎng)友評論節(jié)選意譯 - 【1108-1116】【含本章說】
【1108章(紅祭司-162章)混亂的家庭】
Tetractys
As a man, I can't begin to fathom the mental state "Tracy" must have had growing up. Witnessing his father turn into a woman and giving birth to a younger brother, and then turning into a woman himself.
However, I don't mean to disparage Transgender people with this comment, whatsoever.
作為一個男性,我真的完全沒辦法體會“特蕾西”在成長過程中經(jīng)歷的心理狀態(tài)。目睹自己的父親變成女人,生下自己的弟弟,然后自己也變成了女人。
不過我這條評論完全沒有任何貶低跨性別人群的意思,真的。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Ozwin
If someone dropped that whole thing on me I would probably be frozen stiff like a deer in the headlights. I would have no clue on how to begin unpacking all the emotions laid out there, much less having any idea what to tell her what she should do with them. “There is a whole sequence based on psychology, we should really go speak with one of them about this. All I can do is dumbly listen and make an oof sound at appropriate moments.”
如果有人跟我分享這整件事情,我大概會不知所措到和被聚光燈照到的小鹿一樣完全僵硬吧。我根本不知道到底要怎么開始一點點拆開這些被包裹著放在那里的一系列復(fù)雜情緒,更不用說要怎么告訴她要如何處理這些情緒了。“我知道有一個基于心理學(xué)存在的序列,我們也許真的應(yīng)該找一個他們序列的人聊聊這件事。我能做的就只有傻傻地聽著,在合適的時候‘哎呦’幾聲附和一下?!?/p>
【deer in the headlights:被汽車頭燈照到的鹿。據(jù)說鹿因為視網(wǎng)膜上有更多的感光體,反而導(dǎo)致它們在夜里被驟然出現(xiàn)的汽車燈光照到時會僵在原地,因為它們那個瞬間,被這種燈光貨真價實地照瞎了。所以北美高速上經(jīng)常能看見被撞死的鹿?!?/p>
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(回復(fù)一樓)Talthor
Likely ****ed up beyind belief as many who take that pathway aren't awarenore do they want to turn into the oppositr gender. It likely fucks with their heads, prolly why most of that sect is kind of crazy. This doesn't apply for Transgenders since we already saw a depiction of that with Xios friend, it didn't really affect her as in her mind she was already/always female.
這很可能是為了狠狠摧毀那些完全不知道他們選了這條途徑之后會被轉(zhuǎn)變性別的人的信念。這感覺就像是給他們的腦袋狠狠來上一擊,也怪不得這個教派的人大部分都有點瘋。這和跨性別沒關(guān)系,因為我們已經(jīng)見到了一個真正的跨性別描寫,休的朋友,這對她的自我認(rèn)知來說明沒有什么影響,因為對她來說她從始至終都是女性。
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(回復(fù)一樓)Randompasserby
Transgender people are just being true to themselves. The only one we've seen someone with this motivation was Xio's poor friend.
Most other times we've actually seen their nasty habit of just casually springing the surprise before people are about to advance like a cruel joke ??
跨性別人群只是在做他們自己罷了。我們見到的唯一一個有這種動機的人就是休那個可憐的朋友。
其他大多數(shù)時候,我們看到的只不過是他們總是喜歡給那些要晉升的人搞這種所謂“驚喜”的惡心愛好罷了,簡直像是個殘酷的玩笑。
(回復(fù)一樓)Damick
Yeah, one thing is to want the change, like shermane, but if it is not something you desire, it must be pretty awful. In a sense it is how trangender people feel before changing, but worse, since the person lost what they were, instead of longing for what it is not. About the father's transformation, it is possible for it to not be a problem for a kid, but it requires a loving family and talks, which I suppose Tracy had neither
是的,重要的一點就是他們得想要改變,就像雪曼。但如果你并不想要這種改變,那感覺一定糟透了。從某種意義上來說,這其實就是跨性別人群在手術(shù)之前的感受,甚至更糟,因為這些人失去了他們“是什么”,取而代之的是他們“不是什么”。至于這個父親的轉(zhuǎn)變,對于孩子來說這還是有不造成困擾的可能性的,但這需要一個有愛的家庭和許多長談,這兩個選項我猜特蕾西哪個都沒有
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(回復(fù)一樓)ThisDaddy
Not worse than killing your own parents...like Derrick.
不會比被迫殺死自己的父母更糟了……就像戴里克。
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Randompasserby
Oh. So the blood's for divining Katarina's whereabouts huh ??
My first thought whenever Klein's collecting blood was to automatically assume he's going to kidnap people into Groselle's Travels again lol....oh well, he could still do that I suppose. Kidnapping a Demoness, how scandalous ??
哦。所以血是用來占卜卡特琳娜的下落的哈。
每當(dāng)克萊恩開始收集血液的時候,我就會自動認(rèn)為他又要把人綁進格羅塞爾游記里了23333……哦好吧,我猜這回他還是可以這么做。綁架一個魔女,噫聽起來好變態(tài)啊~
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(回復(fù)樓上)desertfox
Maybe I got it wrong but didn't Medici wanted Klein to look for Katarina? If Klein immediately sent Katarina to Groselle's Travels, how is he gonna explain that to Medici?
也許我理解錯了,但梅迪奇不是要克萊恩去找卡特琳娜嗎?如果克萊恩立刻把卡特琳娜放進格羅塞爾游記了,他要怎么跟梅迪奇解釋啊?
(回復(fù)樓上)Randompasserby
Pulling Katarina into the book would already be one hell of a risk despite Medici, I was mainly talking about Tracy actually.
就算不論梅迪奇,把卡特琳娜放進書里本身就是極大的風(fēng)險了, 所以我這里說的其實是特蕾西。
(回復(fù)樓上)desertfox
Oh, I missed that. Nevertheless, pulling Tracy into the book erases her traces in the real world. Katarina would sense that.
哦哦,我漏掉了這段。不過,把特蕾西拉進書里,就可以抹掉她在現(xiàn)實世界的一切蹤跡??ㄌ亓漳葧兄降摹?/p>
(回復(fù)一樓)Sogar
I'm honestly surprised he has not ... It is the best way to make sure she can't reach anybody and that he can deal with her whenever he wants. I see it as a guaranty that even if she gets out of her state she won't be able to do anything.
The only reason for him not to do so is that she might well die (or find a way to do so) before he deals with Katarina which is definitely something he wants to avoid.
說實話,他沒這么做我反而很驚訝……這其實是確保她沒辦法成功求救的最佳方式了,他可以隨心所欲地料理她。我覺得這算是一個絕對保險,即使她脫離了這種狀態(tài),她也肯定沒辦法做任何事情。
他不這么做的唯一一個原因就是她也可能會死(或者找到方法尋死),而且是在他搞定卡特琳娜之前,這絕對是他想要避免的情況。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Isaactomace
I think he would rather avoid bringing people he cant trust into it. Imagine if it was actually adams blood he got instead?
我覺得他更愿意避免把任何他沒辦法信任的人拉進去。想象一下,如果他得到的其實是亞當(dāng)?shù)难兀?/p>
Mr_Scary_Cat
Technically, Vice-Admiral Tracy still has the chance to switch over to the Red Priest pathway and once again become a man.
確切來說,特蕾西中將還是有機會轉(zhuǎn)到紅祭司途徑,再次成為男人的。
(回復(fù)樓上)Dr_SaltedFish
Only at the demigod level, but who wants to give her such benefit? She has to betray the demoness sect first. She needs to know about neighbouring pathway, doesn't seem like Tracy even know about that.
只有半神層次才行,但誰會愿意給她這樣的好處呢?她首先得背叛魔女教派。她還得知道鄰近途徑的事情,特蕾西現(xiàn)在看起來甚至連這個都不知道。
【1109章(紅祭司-163章)耐心】——本章說
【做完這一切,克萊恩飛快將一只老鼠轉(zhuǎn)化成了秘偶,讓它跑至自身操縱能力的邊緣,張開嘴巴,低聲誦念起一個尊名:】
onemeterofsky
Uhh, rat...? Can Klein choose a little more sophisticated marionet? I mean Zaratul is using black crows, why can't Klein have a dove or raven or squirrels(?!). But hey, this is Backlund, so I guess rats do blend in the crowd...
呃,老鼠…?克萊恩就不能選一個稍微復(fù)雜一點的秘偶嗎?我的意思是,查拉圖用的都是黑烏鴉啥的,克萊恩為啥就不能用鴿子或者渡鴉或者松鼠(??。?。但,嘿,這可是貝克蘭德,所以我猜老鼠確實能有助于混跡于人群之中…
【他懷疑“紅天使”惡靈和自己一樣謹(jǐn)慎、小心和沉穩(wěn),希望做收網(wǎng)的漁夫,而不是那個網(wǎng)?!?/p>
Ahart
the mantis stalks the cicada, unaware of the oriole behind...
螳螂捕蟬,黃雀在后……
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(回復(fù)樓上)Eternal_Pathfinder
whole pack of Orioles
一大群黃雀
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handwritten
Oh wow this is new. MC almost got outsmarted in a Chinese novel
哦哇哦這可是前所未見。在中國網(wǎng)文里主角竟然會差點被智商碾壓
【我的這番行動沒有刻意掩飾什么,如果我去借封印物,而大主教給了,那說明女神在喬治三世那件事情上的真實態(tài)度是:不喜歡那個國王成為“黑皇帝”,但也只能默認(rèn),若是有人愿意破壞儀式,很樂意提供一定的幫助……克萊恩撫平了略顯焦躁的情緒,讓觀察的狀態(tài)變得較為放松?!?/p>
sugber
That is , if people even know if Klein is a Blessed, he could just hide the artifacts characteristics with more bizarre ****.
那就是說,就算人們甚至知道克萊恩是個眷者,他也完全可以用更加詭異的各種東西來掩蓋封印物的效果。
【一位活了一千多年的“不老魔女”,強大而資深的序列3圣者,在“紅天使”惡靈的陷阱面前竟似乎毫無反抗之力,就那樣沒有了動靜。】
SRandom
Hunter pathway is about setting traps
獵人途徑就是和設(shè)陷阱有關(guān)的嘛
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(回復(fù)樓上)Kioga
A Magician should set up stages too, but recently our Magician has been a bit lazy
魔術(shù)師也需要提前布置好舞臺的,但最近我們的魔術(shù)師有點懶
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(回復(fù)樓上)Bunnybell
Lately he is being too occupied with spooking people to set up play XD
最近他都忙著嚇唬人,沒時間布置戲劇了XD
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sugber
Im shocked, how the ****k, no way, i dont believe that the red angel evil spirit who doesnt even have power near the angel level was able to kill this sequence 3 so smashing low sequencers.
我震驚了,這特么怎么可能,我不相信這個甚至連天使級力量都沒有的紅天使惡靈竟然能就這么殺掉一個序列3,就像碾碎一個低序列一樣。
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(回復(fù)樓上)MasterHaug
Surprise element and he is a REALLY experienced evil spirit.
畢竟這是意想不到的“驚喜”,而且他可是個真正經(jīng)驗豐富的惡靈。
【——“詭法師”互換位置時,可以選擇只對調(diào)身體和連外物一起兩種方式,不過,這在如今的層次沒法精確,不能克萊恩想留下什么外物就留下什么,只能選擇全部留和全部不留?!?/p>
lindatan90
"could choose to swap either"
是“可以選擇對調(diào)”
【這里譯文出現(xiàn)了個錯字,把“could only choose to”寫成了“could only choose two”】
【聽到這句話,克萊恩邊從衣兜里拿出一件事物,邊上翹起嘴角,頗為愉悅地回應(yīng)道:“你也做得不錯?!薄?/p>
faimherb
Klein ready to bribe him
克萊恩準(zhǔn)備好要賄賂他了
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Gengar_The_Fool
HAHAHA.
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AmonRolled...
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哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。阿蒙既視感……
【說話間,他對著手中的單片眼鏡呵了口氣,將它戴到了左眼位置。】
Christopher_Blase_9814
Klein is such a troll here! ????
克萊恩在這里真是個頂級釣魚人!23333
Ialreadyhaveone
Hahaha MASTERPIECE! BRAVO ?? BRA ?? VO ??
哈哈哈哈神來之筆!太棒了??太??棒??了??
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TomoyaNagase
Klein trolling a king of angels by pretending to be a different king of angels! Well done! If scaring a king of angels with your bizarre acting doesn't qualify for digesting bizzaro sorcerer then what does?
克萊恩假扮成一個天使之王來戲耍另一個天使之王!干得漂亮!如果用詭異的景象驚嚇一個天使之王還不能滿足消化詭法師魔藥的條件,那還有哪個辦法可以呢?
Anna_94
Nonono not the left eye, Amon wearing it on his right eye .
不不不不不是左眼,阿蒙都是戴在他右眼的。
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aryss
yeah, that is one way to court death ??
是的,這種作死的方式挺獨特??
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Randompasserby
Damn it Klein if you're trolling I swear to God... I felt like my heart stopped beating a couple seconds there ??
媽耶克萊恩,如果你這是在釣魚,我真的對天發(fā)誓……我感覺我的心臟那瞬間停跳了那么幾秒鐘??
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YuriLover212
If I ever find out that any of my friends also read LoTM, I am sooooooo doing this!
如果我有朋友也看詭秘之主的話,我也會對他們干一樣的事情?。?!
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(回復(fù)樓上)Jack_N_Mikhail
that would be hilarious
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especially if you and a bunch of your friend do it together ??
那應(yīng)該會超搞笑
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特別是如果你和你的一群朋友同時做出了這樣的舉動的時候??
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KplormKuts
he's gonna pretend to be Amon's avatar?
他是在假裝自己是阿蒙的分身嗎?
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Adicawida
again, monocles man, scary as sht...
又來了,單片眼鏡男,恐怖的一批……
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(回復(fù)樓上)Dark_Magus
I swear! Gets me every single time!
真的!每一次都能嚇壞我!
(回復(fù)一樓)Choupi_Master
I will never see monicles the same way ever again
我再也沒法像以前一樣正??创龁纹坨R了
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Observer98
Now even the readers are providing feedback
現(xiàn)在甚至連讀者們也可以提供魔藥消化反饋了
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Je56
Truly God-level acting ??
真正的神級扮演233333
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Skyfiend13
bizarre trolling well done!!! I'm dying in laughter here
這個嚇人手法夠詭異,好?。?!我已經(jīng)快笑死了
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benji210
****
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MellowtotheMax
Oh my god ??????????
我的天啊23333333333
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Ukeme_Inyang_0326
Traumatic behavior...
應(yīng)激行為……?
BlackDeathSupreme
someone get this man an oscar award
真的應(yīng)該來個人給他頒個奧斯卡獎
【索倫.艾因霍恩.梅迪奇的笑容頓時就凝固了?!?/p>
aryss
basically everyone is suffering some form of Amon PTSD
基本上所有人都或多或少的有點阿蒙PTSD
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LordOfTheMorning
It was at this moment he knew... he fked up...
這個瞬間他立刻意識到……他搞砸了……
【這句話本身就是個表情包常用?!?/p>
Draenaos
hahahahahahaha damn. i'd be scared ****less too.
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈媽耶。換成是我我肯定也嚇到失智。
Ozwin
Hahahahahaha
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
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Anna_94
This ending really fit the ending song of Sherlock holmes series. its really sync in.
這個結(jié)尾真的很搭夏洛克·福爾摩斯連續(xù)劇的片尾曲。同步率100%。
【說到連續(xù)劇,我懷疑說的就是神探夏洛克?】
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ozush
priceless
這場景真是無價之寶
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Freakzilla
medici: .... r u f*cking kidding me?!?!?!
klein: u think so? ?? nah...
梅迪奇:……你特么在跟我開玩笑嘛???
克萊恩:你覺得是這樣嗎???那可不是哦……
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Shtriya
damn he did the unexpectedly biggest **** in this novel . he just did bizarre acting with a angel as target. **** he played big this time for acting .
媽的這應(yīng)該是這本書里他作過最令人意想不到的最大的死了。他剛剛可是把一名天使當(dāng)做了他扮演詭法師的目標(biāo)。他這次為了扮演可真是玩的夠特么大的。
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sugber
No way! What an absolute madlad! He scared a King of Angels ****tless!
不可能!他真是個瘋子!他竟然真的嚇住了一個天使之王!
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Denizen13
This ending was approved by ?? gang
本章結(jié)尾已通過單片眼鏡??團隊審批
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Gengar_The_Fool
HAHAHA.
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AmonRolled...
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Post-Amon-Traumatic-Disorder is REAL...
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哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。阿蒙來了……PATD(阿蒙創(chuàng)傷后綜合征)是真的……
【其實就是把PTSD改了一個詞】
【1109章(紅祭司-163章)耐心】
Daoist_SunFart
That's some hard core trolling. Klein is definitely a keyboard warrior!
這釣魚可真是太硬核了。克萊恩真不愧是鍵盤俠!
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(回復(fù)樓上)Ats
Ikr. He shouldve done that to others aswell. Even gods are wary of Amon ??
對吧對吧2333他甚至應(yīng)該對其他人也這么干一波的。甚至連神都有點怕阿蒙233
Vanokkor
Oh, so thats how he's gonna digest part of the potion
哦,所以這就是他消化部分魔藥的方式
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Tetractys
I wonder if that'll be enough to fully digest the potion. Scaring a former King of Angels is no easy feat, after all!??????
不知道這是不是夠他完全消化魔藥了。畢竟要嚇唬一個前·天使之王可不是那么容易!
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Demoneastz
That's one hell of a way to do 'acting' lmao. Truly a keyboard warrior
這種“扮演”的方式可是太可怕了哈哈哈哈哈。真正的鍵盤俠
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Daoistspritstone
the thrice reckless disease has crossed realms
三浪病已經(jīng)傳播到超越世界了
【修真聊天群的梗。“三浪病”多發(fā)于中青年修真人群中,一旦被感染到,就很難被治愈。不管你是八品玄圣還是一品躍凡,只要感染到“三浪病”,意識就會不受控制,開始犯“作”?!?/p>
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Ozwin
I can’t hahahahaha, he must be pissing himself rofl, excellent scare!
我撐不住了哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈,他肯定把他惹怒了,我笑到把房頂掀翻,這嚇人技術(shù)簡直精湛絕倫!
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Aby55
Lmfao! This works as well for digestion?? What a troll
我笑死了!這也能消化嗎??釣魚帶師啊
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VoidFang
My heart skipped a beat when Klein put on the monocle, it was scary.
克萊恩戴上單片眼鏡的時候我心跳漏了一拍,實在太嚇人了。
GoodWithAToaster
?? ??
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Anteriom
Wtf i never would have even THOUGHT to use Amon like that! Damn i don't ever want klein as an enemy
臥槽,我想都沒想過還能用這種方式利用阿蒙!媽耶,我絕對不想要克萊恩這樣的人成為我的敵人。
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Oddpancakes
Omg that's what trolling is!
我的天啊,這就是真正的釣魚!
【其實troll這個詞更像是“戲耍”和“釣魚”,但釣魚在國內(nèi)的語境似乎已經(jīng)變了很多,不知道這樣形容還適不適當(dāng)】
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Fire_Eternal
If you wanna see a king of gods panic...
如果你想看到神王驚慌失措的話……
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Mr_Scary_Cat
The first second I freaked out, the next few minutes I kept smiling and laughing. Klein you freaking troll!!
我看到這段的第一秒嚇壞了,接下來的幾分鐘里我先是微笑然后大笑。克萊恩你真的太會耍人了?。。。?/p>
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Freakzilla
Klein giving a free lesson in provokation to the provokation god ??
I swear, if Klein should one day switch sequence (though we all know he won't) he should be a provoker???? they are scheming, love traps, and dare provoke even the gods. It's a perfect match.
克萊恩這是免費給挑釁之神上了一堂挑釁課啊~
我發(fā)誓,如果克萊恩有一天打算轉(zhuǎn)序列的話(雖然我們都知道他不會的),他應(yīng)該轉(zhuǎn)職成挑釁者~他們愛搞陰謀陷阱,還敢甚至挑釁神明。這簡直完美契合他啊。
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Adam_Michael_Daw
That ending!!! Oh man, what's going to happen!?
這個結(jié)尾?。?!哦天啊,接下來會怎么樣???
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Mr_Scary_Cat
This is such a power move!
這招可真是太絕了!
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l3ee
??????????????????
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??????????????????
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sdidelot6982
Lol using the horror of Amon to scare ppl...
哈哈哈哈利用阿蒙的恐怖來嚇別人……
Shtriya
Shit?? , Damn he trolled king of angel and above that the hunter pathway angel . With this his digestion is for sure . For sec i thought taht NTR king has made his move again . This scared the **** out of me ??????. Sequence 3 soon.
臥槽,媽耶,他把一個天使之王,還是獵人途徑的天使之王耍得團團轉(zhuǎn)。就憑這肯定能消化了。有那么一秒我還以為那個牛頭人之王又出手了呢。差點給我屎都嚇出來23333序列3馬上就到了。
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sxfdcgfvhgbjhn
Well, that's a rather suicidal prank. He just finished analyzing how Medici could instakill him. I hope he survives to seek death yet again.
嗯,這可真是個自殺式的惡作劇。他剛分析完梅迪奇能一瞬間就殺掉他,結(jié)果就干了這個。我希望他能在這次作死之后再次活下來。
【1110章(紅祭司-164章)通“靈”】——本章說
【“我再說一遍,你很有‘挑釁者’的天賦。】
aryss
that is a real compliment coming from the master provoker himself ??
這可是來自真正的挑釁大師本人的稱贊??
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Shtriya
yeah
沒錯
【“當(dāng)初查拉圖消化‘詭法師’魔藥的時候,也沒敢在我面前假扮阿蒙?!薄?/p>
victorkok
Klein is the master in courting the death
克萊恩真是作死大師
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ThisDaddy
hahahaha
哈哈哈哈哈哈
shameless
klein may be a sequence 4 but his balls is sequence 0
克萊恩也許只有序列4,但他的膽子可是序列0級別的
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Jack_N_Mikhail
Now I need to know which Zaratul he is referring to. The present one, or the previous one that almost became a King of Angels.
現(xiàn)在我就想知道,他說的是哪個查拉圖。現(xiàn)在這個,還是之前那個差點成為天使之王的
【看著面前氣勢內(nèi)斂卻給人位格極高感的“紅天使”惡靈,克萊恩忍不住在心里咕噥了幾句:要不是剛才“詭法師”魔藥有了較大程度的消化,我還真以為你意志如鋼,實力恢復(fù)到了至少序列1的層次,而現(xiàn)在嘛,我基本可以確認(rèn)你鎮(zhèn)定表現(xiàn)下隱藏的是對阿蒙的強烈畏懼,這也說明你目前的位格頂多序列2……】
desertfox
So it was a probe disguised as a joke. Damn, Klein. Courting death left and right.
所以這可能只是偽裝成了一個玩笑的試探而已。媽耶,克萊恩。在作死的邊緣左右橫跳
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(回復(fù)樓上)lindatan90
The main objective is still digestion actually...
其實主要目標(biāo)還是消化啦……
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Gengar_The_Fool
Kleinception with AmonRolled...
??????????????????
克萊恩套娃和阿蒙式搶劫……
【如果達尼茲在這里,讓他趁這個機會喊兩聲“膽小鬼”,那他就算喝了四五瓶“挑釁者”魔藥也能很快消化掉……】
axo291
????
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desertfox
Yeah, and then he will be dead right after digestion.
是的,然后他消化完了,人也死了
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Anna_94
nonono if Daniz do it he will just jump sequence without need drinking the potion. he straigh up Demigod.
不不不如果達尼茲這么干了,他甚至不用喝魔藥都能跳序列了。直升半神。
Dark_Magus
More like he will be digested right after??
不如說更像是他事后會成為被消化的那個吧XD
Asain
bruh lmao
笑死我了老哥
【“我說的是小查拉圖?!彼鱾?艾因霍恩.梅迪奇隨口回了一句?!?/p>
Jack_N_Mikhail
This is what I wanted to know. Thanks author
我就是想知道這個。感謝作者
【這和倫納德體內(nèi)老爺爺?shù)拿枋鲆恢隆巳R恩微不可見地點了點頭,轉(zhuǎn)入正題道:“你已經(jīng)解決了‘白之魔女’?”】
TrTryu
How is Klein aware of their conversation???
克萊恩是怎么知道倫納德和老爺爺?shù)膶υ拑?nèi)容的?
【看來“挑釁”并不是只有嘲諷和罵人這么兩種方式啊,呃,罵人也只會罵一句的達尼茲簡直是獵人之恥……克萊恩邊想邊開口道:“我已經(jīng)履行了我的承諾,我想你應(yīng)該不介意給我一點小小的報酬。”】
SRandom
Dogsh*t
狗*屎
(回復(fù)樓上)Manaworkz
?? *
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lindatan90
Klein is taking notes about "provoking" here ??
克萊恩這是在對“挑釁”的部分記心得筆記啊233
【“沒問題?!彼鱾?艾因霍恩.梅迪奇抬起右手,抓向自己的眉心,從那里拖出了一條略顯模糊的虛幻身影,正是表情茫然殘留著恐懼的“白之圣女”卡特琳娜?!?/p>
Deadlogic88
THE GLABELLA!!!
是眉心!??!
【六七百章過去了,這個梗大家還記得嗎】
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Ghizghuth
There it is. The mark of the truly powerful.
就是如此。真正強者的標(biāo)志。
【“白之魔女”卡特琳娜一臉虔誠地說道:“它與原初的蘇醒有關(guān),本身除了位格夠高,有‘0’級層次,并不具備什么特殊能力?!薄?/p>
desertfox
Yo, so Trissy is planning to awaken the Primordial just to deal with George III? I like her guts but she's still evil so I don't care even if she dies.
喲,所以特莉絲計劃的是喚醒原初,就為了對付喬治三世?我欣賞她的膽量,但她依然是個壞人,所以哪怕是她死掉了我也不會在乎。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2
me too
我也
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(回復(fù)一樓)SendNuds
The goddess took the ring away, Trissy no longer has it
女神拿走了那枚戒指,特莉絲手里已經(jīng)沒有那枚戒指了
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(回復(fù)一樓)Kioga
Ot might've been part of the 'deal' she made with the Demoness
或者這可能就是她和魔女做的“交易”的一部分
【“事實上不只,因為喬治三世本人很可能也是?!薄鞍字笨ㄌ亓漳日\實回答道,“那兩位天使一位是魯恩王國的創(chuàng)立者,第四紀(jì)存活下來的‘保護者’威廉一世,祂是‘仲裁人’途徑的序列1‘秩序之手’,另一位是曾經(jīng)的南威爾公爵,德林克.奧古斯都,祂是‘仲裁人’途徑的序列2‘平衡者’……至于王室共有幾件‘0’級封印物,我并不清楚。”】
Observer98
Hand of Order is a pretty cool potion name. As expected of a Sequence 1.
秩序之手這個魔藥名聽起來真是酷。很符合序列1該有的感覺。
【10鎊鈔票上那位“立國者”還活著?又有種歷史走進了現(xiàn)實的感覺……克萊恩結(jié)束思索,點了點頭,轉(zhuǎn)而問道:“你們?yōu)槭裁匆蛦讨稳篮献??”?/p>
Asain
kek
科科
【“征服者”是“紅祭司”途徑序列1的魔藥名稱!】
desertfox
So this must be Medici's goal. Alright.
所以這一定就是梅迪奇的目標(biāo)了。好吧。
【隔了幾秒,穿黑底紅紋長袍的索倫.艾因霍恩.梅迪奇和“白之魔女”卡特琳娜一起走出了“鏡子”,后者身形清晰,充滿血肉之感,一點也沒有已經(jīng)死去的跡象!】
KplormKuts
????such a traitorous evil spirit,I can't believe he connive with the Demoness to deceive Lucien but he'll definitely find out and punish them,I trust our MC!
這個嘴里滿是謊言的騙子惡靈,我簡直不敢相信他竟然和魔女合謀欺騙了路西恩,但他絕對能發(fā)現(xiàn)真相懲罰他們的,我相信我們的主角!
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(回復(fù)樓上)CenserBearer
Lucien? Lol wrong novel dude
路西恩?哈哈哈哈哈走錯書了吧哥們
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(回復(fù)一樓)lindatan90
I won't say He is traitorous. It's not like He is a subordinate of the mc after all. Be it the evil spirits or Klein, they were just using each other for their own advantage.
我也不會說他這是背叛欺騙什么的。他畢竟也不是主角的下屬。不管是這個惡靈還是克萊恩,他們都只是為了各自的利益而利用彼此而已。
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Polymyth
WTF??
臥槽??
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Polymyth
I hope Klein is still observing from the grey fog.
希望克萊恩這會還在灰霧之上看著這一切呢。
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sugber
We’ve been tricked!
我們都被耍了!
【“但這是不可能成功的事情,就算他提升再快,能得到不少幫助,也沒辦法對抗王室、軍方和那個組織的聯(lián)手,不,單純只是奧古斯都家族,以他的層次和實力也沒可能撼動,除非黑夜親自下場?!薄?/p>
Observer98
You're underestimating our boy. The eventual face slapping is going to be delicious.
你低估我們的男孩了。最后的打臉反轉(zhuǎn)一定會非常令人享受。
desertfox
You just planted a flag right there. Haha.
你這是剛插了個旗啊。哈哈哈哈哈
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(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2
Exactly! now you made it possible for him to do the impossible
是??!現(xiàn)在你反而讓他有能力把一切不可能變成可能了
Anna_94
Did you know that Evernight is Shotacon she grooming Klein to be the God of seer pathway. never understimated the power of Milf
那你知道黑夜其實是個正太控,而且打算一手培養(yǎng)克萊恩成為占卜家途徑之神嗎。絕對不要小看辣媽的力量口牙
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Tukang_Sampah
I'm coming back from the future to tell you that you have never been more wrong Katarina
我是從未來回來的,這次就是專程來告訴你,卡特琳娜,你錯得不能更離譜了
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Shtriya
Even his weak enemies are stronger tahn u and others are are under 6 feet or his servents .
甚至連他最弱的敵人都比你要強,剩下的要么是不到6英尺高的小娃娃,要么是他的仆從。
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sugber
We’re all going to come back from the future to prove you wrong Katarina!
我們從未來跑回來就是為了證明你大錯特錯,卡特琳娜!
【“你覺得你有資格成為我真正的目標(biāo)嗎?”】
Christopher_Blase_9814
I love how layered this story is... This author is so talented!
我真是愛這本書的層次感……作者實在是天才!
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Anna_94
yoooo didnot demones sect wreck havoc the entire continent in 4 epoch or something. with Death, azik father, The duo so OP that the orthodox gods descend to handle them. dont tell me Medici gonna start another war?, bigger than the current war!!!!?????.
喲,魔女教派不是在第四紀(jì)破壞了整個大陸還是怎么的嗎。和死神,也就是阿茲克的父親一起。這兩個組合實在是太強了,以至于要七神降臨才搞定他們。別告訴我說梅迪奇是想挑起另一場這樣的戰(zhàn)爭吧?比現(xiàn)在的戰(zhàn)爭規(guī)模還要大的那種!?。????
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(回復(fù)樓上)lindatan90
Don't think so. Katarina said that Primordial Demoness is still not in good condition since the Pale Disaster when she met Azik last time. Medici on the other hand, has at most the strength of a seq 2. In order for both to gain more power, they need the hunter pathway characteristics. In other words, they are natural enemy that cannot cooperate without sacrificing of one side.
我不這么覺得??ㄌ亓漳壬洗我姷桨⑵澘说臅r候說原初魔女自從蒼白之災(zāi)之后狀態(tài)就不是很好,現(xiàn)在也沒恢復(fù)。梅迪奇,另一方面,目前最多就序列2強度。對他們倆來說,想要恢復(fù)力量,都需要獵人途徑的非凡特性。換句話說,他們現(xiàn)在是天然的敵人,除非其中一方死掉,不然是不可能合作的。
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CelineXD
very like what Klein does to Tracy??
和克萊恩對特蕾西做的事情真是相似呢~
sugber
Hunter showdown? Who will kill George III first?
獵人現(xiàn)身了?誰能率先殺掉喬治三世呢?
【1110章(紅祭司-164章)通“靈”】
Randompasserby
See, this right here is why you should never trust a freaking Evil Spirit that has authority on Conspiracy to begin with. No matter how comical or non-threatening he seemed.
Kudos for the Klein scaring the **** out of him at the beginning though. ??????
Never mind us readers as collateral damage...
看吧,這就是為什么你從一開始就不應(yīng)該相信一個該死的,掌握著陰謀權(quán)柄的惡靈。不管他看起來有多滑稽搞笑,或者有多缺乏威脅性。
向克萊恩致敬,竟然能從一開始就把他差點嚇出屎來23333
至于你這招對我們讀者造成的友軍傷害,不用介意……
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Zacc
As expected... he is still excellent at tricking people. I love how consistently and cleverly characters are written in this novel.
果然不出所料……他還是很擅長戲耍別人的。我喜歡這些角色形象在這本小說里表現(xiàn)的一致性和聰明的描寫方式。
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Tetractys
We can't be too sure how much of the information gleaned from that spirit channelling was true or not. For the sake of simplicity, I'll assume everything was true, but not the whole truth was given.
Klein was closer to the knife's edge than he thinks. Good thing he didn't do anything too out of line.
我們現(xiàn)在還不能確信這次通靈中獲得的信息到底有多少是真實的。為了簡單起見,我就假設(shè)所有東西都是真的吧,但她并沒有把所有的真相說出來。
克萊恩這次可遠(yuǎn)比他想象的還要在刀尖上跳舞一點。還好他目前還沒有做太出格的事情
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(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2
I think Klein didn't trust the red spirit either despite how much of a convincing act it out up
我覺得克萊恩也沒有完全信任紅惡靈,雖然他表演得似乎很真實一樣
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CrimsonMoon
Didn't Klein speculate that the Loen Royal family gave a sequence 1 characteristic of the Red Priest pathway to the Demoness Sect in exchange for their help? Medici is probably aiming for that characteristic to help himself recover no? 'He' probably wants to negotiate with the demoness sect and you can't negotiate if you killed their saintess of white.
克萊恩不是推測說魯恩王室用了一個序列1紅祭司途徑特性,向魔女教派換取了她們的幫助嗎?梅迪奇也許就是想要用那個特性來幫助自己回復(fù)?不是這樣嗎?“祂”也許是想要和魔女教派談判,但如果你殺了他們的白之圣女,肯定就談不成了。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Blazss
Probably he's using Saintess White to glean information to their Sect.
也許他是想利用白之圣女給他搜集她們教派的情報。
(回復(fù)一樓)lindatan90
He is definitely after the seq 1 Conqueror characteristic. But I don't think He plans to negotiate. When it comes to characteristics of nearby pathways, it's almost non-negotiable. Even the God of Combat doesn't plan to negotiate with Evernight when it comes to Death Uniquenes and characteristics. So how could an evil spirit with at most seq 2 level has chance of success negotiation with seq 0 Primordial Demoness?
他絕對是沖著那個序列1征服者特性去的。但我不覺得他的計劃是想談判。一旦涉及到臨近途徑的特性,這幾乎是沒得談的。事情涉及到死亡途徑的唯一性和特性的時候,甚至連戰(zhàn)神也不打算和黑夜談判。所以這個頂多序列2的惡靈哪有和序列0原初魔女談判成功的資本呢?
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ThisDaddy
Klein scared him, He tricked Klein. What a show.
克萊恩嚇了他一下,他耍了克萊恩一把。真是一場大戲。
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BrokenMortal
How much you want to beat that Klein is above the grey fog watching this interaction?
有多少人想賭克萊恩在灰霧之上看到了這場互動全過程的?
Demoneastz
Oh my-- For the Fool's sake, this is unexpected. What Kind of conspiracy this evil spirit is plotting
哦我的——愚者啊,這真是萬萬沒想到。這個惡靈到底在策劃什么陰謀
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AKirchner
One of the reasons why I like this novel is that his opponents are smart and decesive as well.
我喜歡這本書的原因之一就是,他的對手也和他一樣地聰明狡詐。
【1111章(紅祭司-165章)撲克大師】
Demoneastz
" Even a dog might open the gates to angelhood after living for more than a thousand years." Whoops, He just jinxed it. Susie would be a demigod soon, like less than a thousand-year I bet
“就算是一條狗,活上一千多年,說不定都已經(jīng)推開了那扇門,成為了天使?!卑ミ希@陰陽怪氣的。蘇茜馬上就能成為半神了,我打賭這時間肯定比一千年少得多
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(回復(fù)樓上)CrimsonMoon
Just imagine the look on her face when she meets Susie later on in the story after Susie becomes a Saint hahaha~ ??
想象一下如果之后的劇情里,在蘇茜成為圣者之后她遇上了蘇茜的場面,那她的臉色得有多好看哈哈哈哈哈~
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(回復(fù)一樓)Krader
When she meets saint susie attempting to become an Angel it will really make her feel depressed...
等她發(fā)現(xiàn)圣者蘇茜正在試著沖擊天使的時候,她大概會直接抑郁吧……
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DeadSoul262
It's really enjoyable reading an angel level provoker provoking another provoker angel. It's provokception. :)/
看到一個天使級挑釁者挑釁另一個挑釁天使,實在太令人愉悅了。這就是挑釁套娃。:)
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(回復(fù)樓上)Slesk
Who's provoking powers are greater some keyboard boi who got isekai'd or an angel level figure who was once at the peak of his pathway? lol my bets on keyboard boi =D
究竟誰的挑釁能力更強一些呢,是某個穿越鍵盤俠boy,還是曾經(jīng)在他的途徑登頂過的前·天使級大人物?哈哈哈哈哈我押我們的鍵盤俠boy=D
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Randompasserby
Oh. OH!!!
We've known previously that the Beings at or near the Highest Sequence could have an effect on the general traits of the whole Pathway via backwards propagation.
And now we can confirm the twistedness of the Demoness Pathway comes from the Primordial "Herself". It doesn't necessarily have to be this way... like the Temperance Faction trying to pull the Prisoner Pathway to their preferred ideal, theoretically so could you do that with the Assassin pathway ??.
I mean, the domains of Beauty, Pleasure and who knows what else are such a shame to be bonded constantly with Evil y'know ??
哦。哦!?。?!
之前我們已經(jīng)知道,接近或者身處最頂級序列的存在可以通過反向傳播對整個途徑的普遍特性施加影響。
現(xiàn)在我們實錘的是,魔女途徑的這種扭曲性都是來自原初魔女“祂”本人。她們不是非得用這種方式的……就像是節(jié)制派試圖將囚犯途徑拉回他們理想的生存形態(tài)一樣,理論上來說對刺客途徑也是可以做到的。
我的意思是,美麗和歡愉的領(lǐng)域和權(quán)柄,還有不知道什么的其他東西,都被一直和邪惡的存在綁定在一起,這也太可惜了……
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(回復(fù)樓上)Dr_SaltedFish
Technically if you managed to prop someone like Shermane into seq 0, maybe... But... The potion names are not very positive to being with... Unfortunately, the entire line is just kinda fked. What primordial is doing is probably the norm, but her purposefully getting men to unwillingly turn into woman/getting stuck in the same circumstances as her (as mentioned by Medici, passing down the karma and getting a hoot out of it) is a very **** move on top of her entire existence.
技術(shù)上來說,如果你打算把某個像雪曼這樣的人拉到序列0,也許……但……她們的魔藥名聽起來也不是特別的積極向上啊……不幸的是,這一整條途徑都有點糟糕。原初做的事情也許只是她們的常態(tài),但她有意識地把男人在不情愿的情況下變成女人/讓他們和她一樣卡在這種尷尬的境地里(就像梅迪奇提到的那樣,把這種報應(yīng)一代又一代的傳下去,從中獲取樂趣),這對于一個像她這樣的頂尖存在來說真的是一種非常惡心的舉動。
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Sollkiri
They got bamboozled by an adept cheater. Among all pathway sequences, the Fool's group is one of the most deadliest and holds the tittle of the greatest cheaters, cowards and tricksters. Never fight them in their own game.
他們都被一個資深騙子給騙了。所有途徑的序列里,愚者這個組合就是其中最致命的一個,還握著最強欺詐者,最慫和最會搞小伎倆的名號。絕對不要和他們在他們的優(yōu)勢局里作戰(zhàn)。
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ResidentialPsycho
My theory about all of the Demoness Sect members being former men has proven true this chapter. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Lmao! Those poor unsuspecting assassin Beyonders...
我之前關(guān)于所有魔女教派的成員之前都是男的的理論在這章被證實了。每。一。個。成。員。哈哈哈哈哈哈!這些可憐的刺客非凡者們,真是毫無防備……
Blazss
Teleportation nexus... an apprentice pathway mostly do that! Mr. Door?!
傳送節(jié)點……基本上都是由學(xué)徒途徑的人做的吧!門先生?!
Tetractys
I wonder if there's an expiration date for blood when it comes to Groselle's Travels. If Tracy's blood still works, what's the "time limit" before it becomes ineffective? Otherwise, what about ancient bloodstains? Could he just scrape some dried pieces off, maybe re-liquify it? ??????
不知道對于格羅塞爾游記來說,血液有沒有保質(zhì)期啥的?如果特蕾西的血液還能用的話,那它失效的“時間限制”又是什么呢?如果沒有的話,那古代留下的血液痕跡又會怎么樣呢?他能不能直接把一些干掉的血跡刮下來,也許加點水重新把它變成液體?
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(回復(fù)樓上)Bouletcorp
I wonder what would happen if the drop of blood from the mutated sun sacred emblem (blood from the Eternal Blazing Sun) were to be put on the book ??
不知道如果那滴變異太陽圣徽里面的血(永恒烈陽的神血)被放進書里會怎樣
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(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2
I believe the God can resist such an influence of being pulled in.
我相信神明應(yīng)該是能抵抗這種被拉進去的效果的。
(回復(fù)一樓)desertfox
I don't think there's an expiration date. Klein was even able to pull the mummy inside Groselle's Travel.
我覺得應(yīng)該沒有什么有效期吧。克萊恩甚至能用這個把木乃伊拉進格羅塞爾游記里
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(回復(fù)一樓)Dex2
No, once the blood runs out of spirituality, it can't be used. Spirituality is produced by living stuff - mainly cells (If I put it in a simple manner). Once they are all dead, it will no longer work. Good thing is the Gray fog can prevent stuff from losing its spirituality
不,一旦這滴血里面的靈性耗盡了,那就不能用了。靈性是活著的東西才能產(chǎn)生的——主要是細(xì)胞(如果簡化描述一下的話是這樣)。一旦它們都死光了,那就沒辦法用了。但好消息是,灰霧可以防止物體的靈性流失
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Seion_Ozora
If this is a manhua chapter, I imagine Katarina would get stabbed by so many arrows/speech bubble ??
如果這一章變成漫畫的話,我想象中的卡特琳娜會被無數(shù)個對話框伸出的箭頭萬箭穿心,哈哈哈哈
【1112章(紅祭司-166章)旅行筆記】
Zacc
Mr Door is really enigmatic. Could someone who appears to have the strength of a King of Angels really be stuck? Is he going to be the herald of the apocalypse or what?
門先生還真是神秘啊。一個看起來真的有天使之王級別實力的存在,難道真能被困住這么久嗎?他會不會成為那個世界末日的預(yù)兆呢?
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(回復(fù)樓上)lindatan90
If the combined strength of two seq 0s are not enough to seal a seq 1, what else will? Also, it's not like He has absolutely no way out. He just need some help from the outside. He used to ask Roselle to provide Him some help so that He can return.
如果兩個序列0合力還不能封印住一個序列1,那還有什么存在可以呢?而且,他看起來也不像是完全沒辦法脫困。他只是需要一些外界力量的幫助。他之前一直要求羅賽爾幫他出去來著。
Tetractys
Those negative effects at the end don't correspond to what Klein discovered about the Unshadowed Crucifix. I'm guessing that these effects are the result of the sequence four Unshadowed characteristic and the domain of Afternoon Town/Giant King's Court.
最后這些負(fù)面影響和克萊恩發(fā)現(xiàn)的無暗十字架不相符。我猜這些效果應(yīng)該是序列4無暗者特性遇到了下午鎮(zhèn)/巨人王的王庭區(qū)域之后發(fā)生的異變。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Randompasserby
Hmm I'm more inclined to think the negative effect is from the Terrain itself rather than the Unshadowed Crucifix ??
The Giant's Pathway powers and themes seem to correspond to either Dawn or Twilight so far and I'm guessing we're seeing the Twilight part now
唔,我更傾向于認(rèn)為這是這片區(qū)域自身自帶的負(fù)面效果,而不是無暗十字架的原因
目前巨人途徑的力量和主題似乎都和黃昏或者暮色有關(guān),所以我猜我們現(xiàn)在看到的應(yīng)該是暮色部分效果
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(回復(fù)樓上)Dex2
I'm also thinking it's twilight. The description is that it is in an eternal dust. It would make sense why it seems to be restricting one who is "sunshine"
我也覺得這是暮色的效果。它的描述本來就說這里是永恒的黃昏。這也同樣能解釋為什么這里似乎在抗拒那些代表著“陽光”的東西。
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Ats
And so the shepherd brought her lambs into the twilight.. what would happen I wonder?
所以牧羊人把她的羊羔們帶到了黃昏之中……不知道接下來會發(fā)生什么?
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CelineXD
love to see more small horror stories of Fors!??
超級期待看到更多佛爾思的短篇恐怖故事了!
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Gopher
*Klein drops Fors in a pirate town*
Fors: *writes Yaoi and Yuri Pirates of the Caribbean*
*克萊恩把佛爾思帶到了一個海盜城鎮(zhèn)*
佛爾思:*開始寫加勒比海盜的乙女/百合故事*
AKirchner
Klein, what have you done to these poor pirates? Or should I say Creeping Hunger?
克萊恩,你都對這些可憐的海盜們做了些什么???或者我應(yīng)該說蠕動的饑餓?
ResidentialPsycho
With The Fool peeping on them, Sun and his comrades will have a much safer journey than they otherwise would. No more tricky Ouroboros time-loop traps!
既然有愚者一直在偷窺他們的旅程,太陽和他的同志們這次的旅途應(yīng)該會安全得多了。烏洛琉斯那些難搞的時間循環(huán)陷阱再也傷不著他們了!
【1113章(紅祭司-167章)強大的看守者】
Tetractys
Derrick Berg lights the way
With a beacon, guides them
Under watchful Foolish eyes
In the dark, forsaken
Come the day, burning bright
Cast away the darkness
Pass the torch, old to young
From the dream, awaken
戴里克·伯格照亮了道路
用他手中的燈塔,指引著他們
在愚者的注視目光下
前行于黑暗的神棄之地
來把,明亮的、燃燒的日光
請將這黑暗一掃而空
火炬由老者傳到青年手中
也將從夢中醒來
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Zacc
If those Silver Knights have beyonder characteristics they would be quite useful to kill..
如果這些銀騎士身上都有非凡特性的話,那他們就太有用了,值得一殺……
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Anna_94
THE SUN POWR IS LIMITLESS, LIMITLESS!!!!
太陽的力量是無限的,無限的?。。。?/p>
(回復(fù)樓上)SaintBookwormLich
But only thebLord of Mysteries could guide it: Praise The Fool!!
但只有詭秘之主可以引領(lǐng)這力量:贊美愚者?。?!
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ResidentialPsycho
Little Sun is like a lantern leading the way.
小太陽簡直像個引路的燈籠一樣。
【1114章(紅祭司-168章)殘留的意志】
SRandom
So the Giant King's parent were normal humans who probably got contaminated by something.
所以巨人王的父母就是普通人類,可能被什么東西污染了。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Zacc
... and he wanted to keep that a secret... the implications of that are potentially world shaking.. What are giants then? Just mutations caused by beyonder characteristics?
…而且他還想保守這個秘密…這其中的蘊意可能會震驚整個世界…那巨人們到底是什么?只是非凡特性導(dǎo)致的變異嗎?
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ResidentialPsycho
This makes me wonder if humans were first and elves, giants, etc. were created from them.
這讓我開始思考,如果其實先產(chǎn)生的是人類,精靈,巨人,等等等等的種族都是在人類的基礎(chǔ)上被創(chuàng)造的呢。
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Ats
So pa and ma are not giants.. maybe the giant king was picked up somewhere ??
所以爹媽都不是巨人…也許巨人王是從不知道哪里撿來的23333
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Tetractys
I wonder what use these skeletons could have. Any beyonder characteristics would've long been pillaged.
不知道這些骸骨有什么用處。任何非凡特性肯定都早就被拿走了。
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(回復(fù)樓上)elm_in_eden
It's probably just Amon or Adam confirming the history.
應(yīng)該只是阿蒙或者亞當(dāng)過來確認(rèn)歷史的時候挖的。
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(回復(fù)樓上)CelineXD
i bet it's amon who has lurking in the forsaken land for a very long time!
我打賭是阿蒙,他很早以前就潛伏在神棄之地了!
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【1115章(紅祭司-169章)王庭內(nèi)部】
Main_Def
I feel that this kind of confirmed what I was feeling since Klein saw the cocoons.
He didn't transmigrate and he is still on Earth.
However, he an Roselle are from before the First Epoch.
我感覺這某種意義上證實了我的感覺,自從克萊恩看到那些光繭的時候我就感覺不對。
他并沒有穿越,這里還是地球。
然而,他和羅賽爾都是來自第一紀(jì)的人。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Nihilum
So is this before civilization or after Klein's time ? Cos if it's after, it will be a fallout type situation with ruins, pollution and relics everywhere.
The bit with the cosmos and moon suggests that it is simply another galaxy
所以這是在文明誕生之前的紀(jì)元還是在克萊恩原本的時代之后?因為如果是之后的話,那現(xiàn)在的情況應(yīng)該是輻射系列那種情況的廢土,遍地都是廢土,污染和遺跡什么的。
但星空和月球的情況都表明這里應(yīng)該只是另一個星系而已。
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(回復(fù)一樓)Alessan
Different geography, no ruins of modern cities, different colored moon. Doesn’t seem very likely.
地理環(huán)境不一樣,也沒有現(xiàn)代文明的廢墟,月亮的顏色也不一樣。看起來可能性不大。
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(回復(fù)樓上)elm_in_eden
Depends on how long it's been. All three could change with enough time, geography could shift, cities crumble, and the sun would age and change. Though I agree it's not the most likely option. It would need a really really long time, and an older sun would have all kinds of changes to the environment, which has never been mentioned.
但這都取決于到底時間過去了多久。只要時間夠長,這三者都可能發(fā)生變化,地理會改變,城市會崩塌,甚至太陽也是會衰老和變化的。雖然我也同意,這個可能性不太大。這些過程需要的時間實在是太長太長了,一個衰老的太陽應(yīng)該會對環(huán)境造成各種影響變化,但文中從來沒有提過這些事情。
【講道理,太陽要衰老到紅巨星階段也要四五十億年,這個時間跨度已經(jīng)太長了……】
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(回復(fù)樓上)errantsystems
I'm fairly certain the sun will increase in luminosity enough to kill everything on Earth before it becomes red enough to result in a red moon, and yeah feel like Klein would have noticed if the sun was red or if the moon was just a differently-colored Earth moon (note the moon isn't geologically active so it's not gonna look different). This is the author of Throne of Magical Arcana so I doubt scientific aspects like this would be completely overlooked.
我非常確信太陽在變得足夠紅,導(dǎo)致月亮也變成紅色之前,它的亮度增加程度絕對足以殺死任何地球上的生物了,而且,是的,如果太陽變紅了或者月亮只是一個換了個顏色的地球月亮的話,克萊恩應(yīng)該能察覺到(需要注意的是,月亮不屬于地理活動的一部分,所以它看起來應(yīng)該不會有變化)。這可是奧術(shù)王座的作者,所以我覺得這種科學(xué)方面的設(shè)定應(yīng)該不會被簡單忽視掉。
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(回復(fù)三樓)Zacc
Also aren't there multiple moons?
而且這里不是有好幾個月亮嗎?
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(回復(fù)三樓)Jackattack
Also this world has no oil, which suggests no fossil record. It seems like a much younger world. And ya know.. it has literal gods in it.
而且這個世界沒有石油,這意味著這個世界沒有化石記錄。看起來似乎是個年輕得多的世界。而且你懂的……這里可是有貨真價實的神存在啊。
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(回復(fù)樓上)errantsystems
Well, it has coal, so it can't be too young (and must be geologically active). Generally oil is less accessible (aka deeper/less deposits on land) than coal though, due to how it forms. I can't remember if they said how they mine coal, but maybe it's just whoever goes too deep gets corrupted or something? We know that knowledge can corrupt, so it would kinda make sense if "no oil" = "actually there's oil but you can't talk about it".
嗯,但這里有煤,所以不可能太年輕(而且地理上的變化應(yīng)該很活躍)。一般來說石油會比煤更難獲?。ǜ?陸地上的存量更少),因為它的形成方式的問題。我不記得他們有沒有說過他們開采煤礦的方式了,但也許他們說過只要往地下去的更深就會被污染還是什么的?我們都知道,某些信息和知識可以污染人,所以如果“沒有石油”=“其實有石油,但是不能談?wù)摰闹R”的話,這也說得通。
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(回復(fù)樓上上)Ats
Maybe the skeletons there are not carbon-based ??
也許這里的骨頭都不是碳基生物的~
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(回復(fù)樓上)Jackattack
lol if so... I frankly have no idea what that would imply! It would be interesting though.
哈哈哈哈如果真是這樣……我真是完全不知道這能暗示出什么!不過聽起來挺有意思的
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(回復(fù)樓上)Ats
All living beings are carbon-based.
If somehow they get high pressure (like being under megatonnes of earth like) & high heat over a long time (millions of years), they will form other carbon-based material but with different molecule structure such as coal, oil, and natural gases.
Different raw material & treatment (pressure, heat & time) will make coal/oil quality differs. For example, coal with blacker color will generate more heat than coal with lighter (brown) color.
所有的生物都是碳基的。
在高壓條件(就像是被埋在百萬噸級的地表下)還有高溫條件下很長時間(幾百萬年)的話,他們會形成其他類型的碳基物質(zhì),但分子結(jié)構(gòu)有所不同,比如煤炭,室友,還有天然氣。
不同的原料和不同的條件(壓力,溫度和時間)都會導(dǎo)致煤炭/石油的品質(zhì)不同。舉個例子,顏色比較黑的煤炭相比顏色比較淺(偏棕)的煤炭,燃燒時放出的熱量更高。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Ats
But then again, this novel's world has gas and coal, but no oil. Its strange because, to make it simple, gas-oil-coal are same material with different phase gas-liquid-solid. They have different phases only because they have different amount of carbon chain.
Well its a fantasy world. Lets leave chemistry out of it haha.
但話又說回來,這本小說的世界里有天然氣和煤炭,但沒有石油。這非常奇怪,因為,簡單來說,氣-油-煤其實都是同一種物質(zhì),只是存在的形態(tài)不同,是氣體-液體-固體罷了。它們的形態(tài)不同僅僅是因為其中的含碳鏈數(shù)量不同而已。
嗯,但這是個幻想世界對吧。所以我們就還是把化學(xué)扔開不談吧,哈哈。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Jackattack
But the thing is the author clearly is a big fan of science, biology, physics, chemistry and math. If you've read Throne of Magical Arcana, the authors first novel, it is basically all about science past the first 100 chapters or so. So the fact that oil specifically is missing while coal and gas exist should be intentional. I'm just not sure why lol.
但問題是,作者顯然是個科學(xué),生物,物理,化學(xué)還有數(shù)學(xué)的愛好者。如果你看過他的奧術(shù)王座的話,也就是作者的第一本書,那本書基本上在前100章內(nèi)全都是和科學(xué)有關(guān)的東西。所以唯獨石油這種物質(zhì)消失了,但煤炭和天然氣還存在,這種現(xiàn)象絕對是故意的。我只是不清楚具體的原因到底是什么23333
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(回復(fù)樓上上)Sinfish
In general, coal will never turn into oil, and oil will never turn into coal, but they both will turn into natural gas given sufficient heat, pressure, and time.
Oil is pretty much exclusively formed fairly deep, but not too deep underwater and is made of creatures in marine sediments.
It requires sufficient life which isn't found in deep ocean, but also requires anoxic environments which can't be found in shallow water.
Oil being found on land is all land that was formerly underwater.
Coal but no oil might suggest a lack of tectonic activity in this world preventing coasts from significantly shifting. Or perhaps a lifeform eats oil, or even some sort of cthulhu monstrosity is consuming it.
Plus, it may be that oil exists, but for some reason it can't get close enough to the surface to be exploited by their level of industrial-age technogy.
一般來說,煤炭是永遠(yuǎn)也不可能變成石油的,石油也永遠(yuǎn)不可能變成煤炭,但它們都可以在一定的熱量,壓力和時間條件下變成天然氣。
石油幾乎都是在相當(dāng)深的地方生成的,但在水下的話就不會有那么深,而且都是由海洋沉積物中的生物尸體形成的。
它需要有足夠多的生物,但這在深海是沒有的,但同時它又需要有缺氧的環(huán)境,這種環(huán)境在淺海又是找不到的。
在陸地上發(fā)現(xiàn)的石油說明這里之前都是處于水下的陸地。
有煤炭但卻沒有石油,這可能說明這個世界缺乏地質(zhì)構(gòu)造活動,使得海岸線沒有特別劇烈的移動?;蛘咭苍S是某種存在以石油為食,或者甚至是某種克蘇魯怪物之類的存在把石油都吃光了。
另外,也有可能石油其實是存在的,但出于某種原因,它們的位置無法離地表太近,無法被他們目前的工業(yè)時代科技水平所開發(fā)。
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(回復(fù)三樓)Demoneastz
Something must have happened for there are no more ruins of modern cities, right? It's not like we got to see Atlantis ruins. Geography might have changed a lot for all those years like there are godly beings out there popping out and doing high-level battles that equal to nuclear warfare. Moon colour is different? I guess this is had to do with mysticism, Mr Door hinted to Roselle that everything would make sense once He went to the moon. Roselle must have seen something up there, something that made Him realise that He is still on the same planet. Lots of possibilities. I like this novel even more!
這里沒有現(xiàn)代都市的遺跡,所以肯定是發(fā)生了什么事,對吧?這可不像是我們能看到亞特蘭蒂斯的遺跡什么的。地理上來說,這么多年過去的確有可能變化很大,畢竟這里還冒出來一堆神級的存在,高序列的戰(zhàn)斗和核打擊沒什么不同。月亮的顏色不一樣?我猜這個應(yīng)該和神秘學(xué)有關(guān),門先生暗示過羅賽爾,一旦他登月一次,一切就都明白了。羅賽爾肯定在那里看到了一些東西,一些讓他意識到他依然身處于同一座星球的東西??赡苄詫嵲谑翘嗔恕N以絹碓较矚g這本書了!
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CelineXD
is there anyone connecting this chapter with Attack on Titan???
Giants, originated from humans, some with intelligence while some without because of different results brought by beyonder characteristics.
Giant King kept his intelligence as well as memory, hr became the King but had to keep it as a secret even from his wife and son. He felt guilty because he let the race to slave humans?
I wonder if how many supernatural species are actually originated from humans. And i think it's a possible explanation that 2nd epoch is when quasi human fight against mutants until ASG ended it and probably opened the tombs to make confirmation?
Since Lovia is calm about this, and she's backed by TC. did TC told her before this exploration like Fool's suggestion to Derrick?
有沒有其他人(也和我一樣)把這一章和《進擊的巨人》聯(lián)系在一起了的?
巨人,其原始人類,有些有智慧有些沒有,因為非凡特性造成的效果不同。
巨人王一直保有著智力和記憶,他成為了王,但不得不保守這個秘密,甚至是向他的妻子和兒子。他一直感受到罪惡感,因為他讓自己的種族就這么奴役人類?
不知道這個世界里到底有多少超自然種族其實都是起源于人類的。而且我感覺這很可能是個合理的解釋:第二紀(jì)泛人類種族和異種戰(zhàn)斗的時代是被遠(yuǎn)古太陽神終結(jié)的,他可能打開了這個墓穴來確認(rèn)真相?
既然洛薇雅對這件事情表現(xiàn)得很冷靜,而且她背后就是真實造物主。那是真實造物主提前告訴了她這些嗎,就像愚者對戴里克提的建議一樣?
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Tetractys
Who knows what kind of traps lay in wait, guarding a true divine kingdom?
誰知道在前方,這片真正的神國中,等待著他們的會是什么樣的陷阱?
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hsbhassan
Well, for those arguing about Oil.... it's been thousands of years and the corpse of the King's parents can still be identified. Maybe the decomposition has been effected and thus normal sense cannot be applied....
I am guessing they were normal humans...
呃,關(guān)于各位有關(guān)石油的爭論……這都幾千年了,巨人王父母的尸體現(xiàn)在還是可以辨認(rèn)。也許這個世界的分解效率被影響了,所以沒法用常理來判斷……
我猜他們之前應(yīng)該都是普通人類……
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Tetractys
Two down just like that. Derrick needs to be extra careful.
兩個人就這么死了。戴里克真的得格外小心一些。
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Mapaglarong_Haraya
A table for a conspiracy against God....blasphemous angels...
一桌子的密謀針對神明的瀆神天使……
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Aby55
Poor Joshua! And oh ****....why is that table so familiar? The original palace of The Fool? Did Klein subconsciously create a copy of the originally transmigrators palace? How and why?
可憐的約修亞!還有,哦我擦……為什么這張桌子看起來如此熟悉?是愚者原來的宮殿嗎?克萊恩是不是無意識地創(chuàng)造了一個和原本的穿越者一模一樣的宮殿?怎么做到的,為什么呢?
(回復(fù)樓上)Ozwin
It could also have something to do with the era in which it was created, or moving in the opposite direction, this place could be more likely modeled after the one above the gray fog.
The gray fog appears to have something to do with whatever lies below(which I think also has something to do with the cosmos if I interpreted that correctly) based on what Arrodes has said in the past about how Klein feels to him. Given that even gods are hesitant or fearful of what lies beyond or below this world (again some wordings have confused me a bit but I think it is all related or the same), this otherworldly stuff (and likely the gray fog by extension) appear to be older than most gods and perhaps even this world itself depending on how heavily the author takes inspiration from a certain mythos.
This has kinda bothered me more and more ever since we learned a bit more about the mother tree of desire because from how I understood that it isn’t a traditional god. Perhaps the reason it is so interested in Klein is that it feels a kinship with his power. With as much as the seer, marauder, and apprentice pathway group has been mentioned as a collective when the grey fog pops up, particularly in Roselle’s stuff, perhaps it would support the powers of anyone from those three pathways and maybe eventually give increasing access to the neighboring ones which I think has been hinted at with those worms he got from our marauder acquaintances ?and the charms he made from them. Maybe the gray fog isn’t meant to guide Klein to be a more traditional god, but perhaps one more like the mother tree of desire. I could very likely be reaching though.
So tldr I think the giant king is far more likely to have based this place on Klein’s or perhaps places related to Klein’s than the other way around.
這也有可能和它被創(chuàng)造的時代有關(guān),或者反過來說,這個地方更可能是以灰霧之上的空間為原型制造出來的。
根據(jù)阿洛德斯之前所說的他對克萊恩的感覺,灰霧似乎和它下面的東西有關(guān)(如果我理解得沒錯的話,我認(rèn)為也和星空有關(guān))??紤]到即使是神也對這個世界之外或者地下的東西感到猶豫或恐懼(這里同樣有些措辭讓我有點困惑,但我覺得這些東西之間應(yīng)該都是互相關(guān)聯(lián)的,或者就是同一種東西),這種異界的東西(很可能是灰霧的延伸)似乎比大多數(shù)神,甚至可能是這個世界本身更古老,這就取決于作者從某種神話故事中獲得多少靈感了。
自從我們對欲望母樹有了更多的了解之后,這個點就越來越讓我在意了,因為從我的理解來看,欲望母樹并不是一個傳統(tǒng)的神。也許它之所以對克萊因這么感興趣,是因為它覺得克萊恩和它的力量有一種親緣關(guān)系。再加上之前提過預(yù)言家、偷盜者和學(xué)徒途徑是一個互換組,同時還點出了灰霧,尤其是這還是在羅賽爾日記里面提的,所以也許灰霧會為這三個途徑的任何一條的力量提供支援,也許最后甚至還可以給他提供更多的對臨近途徑的干涉能力。這一點我覺得從克萊恩獲得的那些偷盜者途徑的蟲子上已經(jīng)有所暗示了,還有他用這些蟲子做的符咒。也許灰霧并不是為了引導(dǎo)克萊因成為一個那種傳統(tǒng)意義上的神,而是也許一個更像欲望母樹的神。不過我也很可能是在瞎扯。
太長不看版總結(jié):我認(rèn)為巨人王這個地方更像是基于克萊恩那個地方而建造的,或者是和克萊恩那個地方有關(guān)的,而不是反過來的關(guān)系。
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(回復(fù)一樓)Mapaglarong_Haraya
that's the dusk gathering of the rose redemption where the True Creator is born
這是救贖薔薇的黃昏聚會,真實造物主誕生的地方
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(回復(fù)一樓)Whatareulookingat
Thats the dusk palace. It has no relation with the palace above the gray fog. The table was familiar because of the number of seats and how they were arranged. It also has nothing to do with the gray fog. Hell, even i have a similar table in my house.
這是黃昏宮殿。這個宮殿和灰霧之上宮殿沒有關(guān)系。這張桌子看著眼熟是因為座位的數(shù)量和他們排排坐的方式很像。和灰霧也沒有關(guān)系。天啊,甚至我家都有一張類似的長桌好嗎。
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(回復(fù)樓上)Demoneastz
LMAO IKR seems like he is brain-cooked by this current arc
哈哈哈哈對吧,看起來他似乎被這一章搞得腦袋短路了已經(jīng)
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(回復(fù)一樓)SRandom
Possibly the palace of the previous Fool
可能是前任愚者的宮殿
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(回復(fù)樓上)Whatareulookingat
Thats improbable. Since the dusk palace was built by the giants, it has nothing to do with the gray fog. It is just like the city that the dragon of imagination created. Nothing to do with the gray fog.
If someone has evidences or clues that they have a relation please comment on my comment so that i can read.
那是不可能的。既然黃昏宮殿是巨人們建的,那就和灰霧沒有關(guān)系了。就像是空想之龍建造的那個城市一樣,這和灰霧無關(guān)。
如果有人有證據(jù)或者線索能證明它們和灰霧有關(guān)的話,請直接回復(fù)我這條評論,這樣我就能看到了。?
ResidentialPsycho
Now that this place is lively, it's somehow much creepier than when everything was simply dead and silent.
現(xiàn)在這里熱鬧起來了,但不知為何,比起一開始一片死寂的時候,這樣反而要更毛骨悚然得多。