白巖松采訪劉翔父母全文對(duì)話
2012年8月9日,白巖松在英國(guó)倫敦采訪了劉翔的父母,劉翔的父母再次表示,希望能夠大家原諒和支持劉翔,因?yàn)閯⑾枰呀?jīng)努力了。
白巖松

吉粉花

劉學(xué)根

對(duì)話全文:
白巖松:阿姨,那天比賽有票的,但是你們沒(méi)有去現(xiàn)場(chǎng)看是吧?
吉粉花(劉翔媽媽):沒(méi)有去,我們?cè)谧约悍块g里看的。
劉學(xué)根(劉翔爸爸):我是22日到倫敦的,在我到倫敦之前一個(gè)多星期,劉翔的腳有點(diǎn)發(fā)炎了,幾年沒(méi)有發(fā)炎,我心里有點(diǎn)陰影,到這里來(lái)以后,我不斷地聽(tīng)到不好的消息,直到他比賽之前消息更加不好,我心里就堵得慌。但是劉翔媽媽不知道這個(gè)情況,預(yù)賽的票朋友也送給我,但是我和劉翔媽媽說(shuō)了,預(yù)賽不要去看了,就在家里看,我心里就有一種不祥的感覺(jué),因?yàn)榻?jīng)過(guò)2008年。所以那天劉翔在脫衣服的時(shí)候,在電視畫面上看到他的臉部的表情,一看像抽心一樣,她還不知道。
白巖松:阿姨在電視上看到,剛出去第一個(gè)欄就摔倒了,您當(dāng)時(shí)什么反應(yīng)?
吉粉花:一下子懵掉了,怎么會(huì)摔跤呢,后來(lái)我一下子哭出來(lái)。
白巖松:叔叔沒(méi)哭吧?
吉粉花:他先沒(méi)有哭,悶頭低下來(lái)抽香煙,后來(lái)他跑到浴室去就嚎啕大哭,聲音哭得很響,我說(shuō)你不要哭,他說(shuō)我哭出來(lái)心里舒服。
白巖松:叔叔,從他受傷為止到現(xiàn)在,劉翔跟您溝通了幾次?第一時(shí)間是什么時(shí)候?
劉學(xué)根:大概他受傷一個(gè)半小時(shí)以后,他打了電話給我,因?yàn)檫@里的電話好像信息不是很暢通,他就叫爸爸,我答應(yīng)了一聲,他又叫了一聲,他說(shuō)你們不要擔(dān)心,我說(shuō)哦哦哦,他手機(jī)就關(guān)了。但是我聽(tīng)得出,他哭了,他關(guān)手機(jī)之前,他講不下去了,把手機(jī)關(guān)了。
白巖松:第一個(gè)短信是什么時(shí)候給您發(fā)的?
劉學(xué)根:昨天傍晚的時(shí)候,他發(fā)了一個(gè)短信給我,包括醫(yī)生對(duì)他初步檢查、初步診斷,叫我放心一點(diǎn),他這個(gè)手術(shù)很快會(huì)做好,做好以后,跟腱會(huì)變得更強(qiáng),他也想不通,我也想不通,不過(guò)大家互相安慰而已。
白巖松:聽(tīng)說(shuō)第二天早晨睡醒了之后,他給您發(fā)了一個(gè)很開(kāi)心的短信是不是?
劉學(xué)根:他昨天覺(jué)睡得很香,感覺(jué)肚子餓了,請(qǐng)李指導(dǎo)幫他打飯去,心情很好,說(shuō)給他看病的大夫也是很好的大夫,讓我們放心。
吉粉花:晚上給我們打了電話,我就說(shuō)了一聲,你腳還好嗎?后來(lái)我就哽咽了,后來(lái)他說(shuō),媽媽你在干什么,怎么聲音沒(méi)了,他說(shuō)你不要哭,我很好,沒(méi)什么,你和爸爸不用擔(dān)心,當(dāng)時(shí)就這樣跟我說(shuō)。
白巖松:其實(shí)這一幕一發(fā)生以后,很多人說(shuō),劉翔會(huì)不會(huì)退役了,我聽(tīng)說(shuō)他給您發(fā)了一個(gè)短信說(shuō)還要回來(lái)是吧?
劉學(xué)根:他這個(gè)里邊,以我的猜想也是雙重的意思,一個(gè)是安慰我們,一個(gè)他要康復(fù)訓(xùn)練,他可能有想法,因?yàn)樗郧昂臀艺f(shuō)過(guò),他說(shuō)有很多的朋友也好、媒體也好,問(wèn)我什么時(shí)候退役,我不好講,我的思想是退役,爸爸,你看呢?因?yàn)槊總€(gè)運(yùn)動(dòng)員都以失敗而告終,退役了。我在國(guó)內(nèi)跑不進(jìn)前三了,那個(gè)時(shí)候大概我也35歲了,當(dāng)時(shí)他比較樂(lè)觀,說(shuō)我那個(gè)時(shí)候退役是最好的,但是昨天的事我們沒(méi)有想到。
白巖松:阿姨怎么看待?
吉粉花:他如果喜歡,還能跑幾年。
劉學(xué)根:不是幾年。
吉粉花:跑兩年。
白巖松:從媽媽的希望呢?
吉粉花:希望最后談個(gè)女朋友,成家。
白巖松:手術(shù)要做了,聽(tīng)說(shuō)你們兩位把機(jī)票都改了,原來(lái)8月9日要走,阿姨想沒(méi)想到,明天當(dāng)你見(jiàn)他的時(shí)候,會(huì)控制住自己的感情嗎?
吉粉花:我盡量控制,可能控制不住。
白巖松:爸爸準(zhǔn)備到那兒要跟他說(shuō)什么?
劉學(xué)根:真的很難說(shuō),跟他講話很難講。因?yàn)檫@么多年,我挺舍不得他的,有時(shí)候講,可能也不是從心里講,敷衍敷衍,總之希望他開(kāi)心一點(diǎn),早日回復(fù)健康。
白巖松:很多體育迷其實(shí)都在關(guān)注劉翔,傷退之后,大家心情很難過(guò)。阿姨特別想對(duì)體育迷,替劉翔說(shuō)點(diǎn)什么,或者替您自己?
吉粉花:感謝他們一直以來(lái)對(duì)劉翔的支持。
劉學(xué)根:熱情的鼓勵(lì)和善意的批評(píng),應(yīng)該都需要。
白巖松:有什么要批評(píng)的呢?
劉學(xué)根:還是要有批評(píng),因?yàn)榕u(píng)有幾種方式,一種批評(píng)可以給他帶來(lái)動(dòng)力,一種批評(píng)也可以給他帶來(lái)自己想得更坦然一點(diǎn)。當(dāng)然了我希望他能夠正確地理解,他也不是小孩子了,也經(jīng)過(guò)了一段高低起伏了。
白巖松:最后阿姨跟叔叔已經(jīng)說(shuō)服自己了沒(méi)有?給沒(méi)給自己一個(gè)理由?
劉學(xué)根:這個(gè)很難,我還是想今天比賽結(jié)束了,能取得冠軍多好。在這里看看劉翔的照片,手里是數(shù)字一,我心里真的說(shuō)不出的滋味。11年了,他每年都進(jìn)世界前三,唯獨(dú)兩屆奧運(yùn)會(huì)沒(méi)有跑好,該付出的,他付出的都蠻艱辛的。我們倒無(wú)所謂,有點(diǎn)舍不得他,真舍不得他。
英語(yǔ)譯文
白巖松:Auntie, there were tickets for the game that day, but you didn't go to the scene to watch, did you?
吉粉花:Didn't go, we watched it in our room.
劉學(xué)根:I arrived in London on the 22nd. More than a week before I arrived in London, Liu Xiang's feet were a little bit inflamed. They haven't been inflamed in several years. I have a shadow in my heart. After coming here, I kept hearing bad news until The news about him before the game was even worse, and I was in a panic. But Liu Xiang's mother didn't know about this situation, and my friend gave me the tickets for the preliminaries, but I told Liu Xiang's mother, don't watch the preliminaries, just watch it at home, I have an ominous feeling in my heart, because after 2008. So that day when Liu Xiang was undressing, she saw the expression on his face on the TV screen, it was like a heartbreak, she didn't know it yet.?
白巖松:Auntie saw on TV that she fell down just after going out the first column. What was your reaction at that time?
吉粉花:Suddenly, I was stunned, how could I fall, and then I burst into tears.
白巖松:Uncle didn't cry?
吉粉花:He didn't cry first, but lowered his head and smoked a cigarette. Later, when he ran to the bathroom, he burst into tears. He cried loudly. I said you don't cry, and he said that I felt comfortable when I cried.?
白巖松:Uncle, how many times has Liu Xiang communicated with you since he was injured? When is the first time??
劉學(xué)根: About an hour and a half after he was injured, he called me, because the phone here didn't seem to be very smooth, so he called Dad, I agreed, and he called again, he said don't worry, I Say oh oh oh, his phone is turned off. But I could hear that he was crying, and before he turned off the phone, he couldn't talk anymore and turned off the phone.?
白巖松: When was the first text message sent to you?
劉學(xué)根: Yesterday evening, he sent a text message to me, including the doctor's preliminary examination and diagnosis, telling me to rest assured that his operation will be done soon, and the Achilles tendon will become stronger after it is done. , he can't figure it out, and I can't figure it out either, but everyone comforts each other.
白巖松:I heard that after waking up the next morning, he sent you a very happy text message, didn't he?
劉學(xué)根:He slept soundly yesterday and felt hungry. He asked Li to help him make meals. He was in a good mood. He said that the doctor who saw him was also a very good doctor, so let us rest assured.
吉粉花:I called us at night, and I just said, are your feet okay? Later, I choked up, and later he said, "Mom, what are you doing, why is your voice gone? He said you don't cry, I'm fine, nothing, you and Dad don't have to worry, that's what he told me at the time
白巖松:Actually, as soon as this scene happened, many people said, will Liu Xiang retire? I heard that he sent you a text message saying that he would come back, right?
劉學(xué)根:In my guess, he has a dual meaning. One is to comfort us, and the other is to rehabilitate. He may have ideas, because he told me before, he said that he has many friends and the media. Well, ask me when I will retire, I can't tell, my thinking is to retire, Dad, what do you think? Because every athlete ends up failing and retiring. I can't make it into the top three in China. I was probably 35 years old at that time. At that time, he was more optimistic and said that it would be the best for me to retire at that time, but we didn't think about what happened yesterday.
白巖松:Bai Yansong: What does Auntie think?
吉粉花: If he likes it, he can run for a few years.
劉學(xué)根: Not a few years.
吉粉花: Running for two years.
白巖松: What about the hope from mother?
吉粉花: I hope to finally talk about a girlfriend and get married.
白巖松: The surgery is going to be done. I heard that you two have changed your flight tickets. It turns out that you will be leaving on August 9th. Auntie did not expect that when you see him tomorrow, will you control your feelings?
吉粉花: I try to control it, but I may not be able to.
白巖松: What is Dad going to tell him when he gets there?
劉學(xué)根: It's really hard to say, it's hard to talk to him. Because for so many years, I am quite reluctant to part with him. Sometimes, I may not say it from the heart, perfunctory. In short, I hope he will be happy and recover soon.?
白巖松: Many sports fans are actually paying attention to Liu Xiang. After the injury, everyone felt very sad. Auntie especially wants to say something to sports fans, for Liu Xiang, or for yourself?
吉粉花: Thank them for their continuous support to Liu Xiang.
劉學(xué)根: Enthusiastic encouragement and well-meaning criticism should be needed.
白巖松: What is there to criticize?
劉學(xué)根: We still have to criticize, because there are several ways to criticize. One kind of criticism can bring him motivation, and another kind of criticism can also bring him to think more calmly. Of course, I hope he can understand correctly, he is no longer a child, and he has gone through a period of ups and downs.?
白巖松: In the end, have my aunt and uncle convinced me? Did you give yourself a reason?
劉學(xué)根: This is very difficult. I still want to see how good it is to win the championship after the game is over today. Looking at Liu Xiang's photo here, with the number one in his hand, I really can't express the feeling in my heart. For 11 years, he has been in the top three in the world every year, but he did not run well in the two Olympic Games. He should pay, and he paid very hard. It doesn't matter to us, we are a little bit reluctant to him, really miss him.?