In one of his first interviews since going on hiatus last year, the megastar steadily steps back into the limelight for David Yurman’s new jewelry campaign.

2022年停工后，肖恩·蒙德茲首次接受采訪。最近，這位巨星代言了David Yurman的珠寶廣告，慢慢回到了人們的視線。

It’s been a tough couple of months for Shawn Mendes.

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對(duì)肖恩·蒙德茲來說，這幾個(gè)月過得并不容易。

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Having kicked off his?Wonder: The World Tour?in May 2022, the Gen Z megastar performed the first seven concerts, then postponed it for several weeks, citing mental health concerns, before canceling the remaining 80 dates in July. In an Instagram post to his 71 million followers, Mendes promised fans that he would take some time away from the limelight to “ground” himself and “come back stronger.”

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肖恩·蒙德茲是Z世代巨星。2022年5月，他啟動(dòng)了Wonder：世界巡回演唱會(huì)。第七場(chǎng)演出結(jié)束后，萌德表示需要調(diào)整心理狀態(tài)，將巡演推遲了幾周。7月，他決定取消接下來的80場(chǎng)演出。通過Instagram，他向7100萬粉絲承諾，接下來他將遠(yuǎn)離人們的視線，再度回歸時(shí)會(huì)變得更強(qiáng)大。

Since then, Mendes has been doing the work. He’s been in therapy. He did an Instagram Live last month with self-help guru Jay Shetty. He’s even using terms like “modalities” and “compassionate inquiry.” Gwyneth Paltrow would be proud.

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從那以后，萌德就在努力兌現(xiàn)承諾。他一直在接受治療。2023年1月，他與療愈大師Jay Shetty在Instagram上進(jìn)行了一次直播。他談到了“療法”和“同情心探索”。

In addition to doing the work, Mendes has also steadily been stepping back into the spotlight. He, along with Scarlett Johansson, is the new brand ambassador of?David Yurman’s?Nature’s Artistry?campaign. And to celebrate the release, we caught up with Mendes for one of his first interviews since the events of last summer. We spoke on the phone about the inner journey he’s been on over the last six months, his taste in?jewelry?and when we might be able to expect some new music.

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此外，萌德也在穩(wěn)步回到聚光燈下。他和Scarlett Johansson攜手擔(dān)任了DavidYurman的“Nature's Artistry”品牌大使。為慶祝這一新代言，我們采訪了萌德，這是他去年停工后的首次采訪。電話中，我們談到了他過去半年的心路歷程，討論了他的珠寶品味，也試圖打聽什么時(shí)候可以聽到他的新音樂。

How are you? Last year was the big tour cancellation news, which everyone was so sad about. What kind of energy are you bringing into 2023?

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I’m bringing in some honest energy. Last year was a tough year for me, and I spent a lot of time doing a lot of really good things for myself: taking some time to rest and heal, doing some great therapy and just kind of grounding myself again. I’ve been feeling really inspired lately, feeling like I’m ready to start making some music. Sometimes we just need to know when it’s time to take a breath and hibernate for a minute so we can come out feeling stronger. I feel really grateful with how accepting and loving everybody has been. I really think it’s a testament to the way that culture is starting to interact with?mental health.

你還好嗎？去年你取消了巡演，大家都很難過。2023年來了，你將會(huì)給新的一年帶來什么樣的能量？

我?guī)砹苏嬲\的能量。對(duì)我來說，去年是艱難的一年，我花了很多時(shí)間讓自己變好。我好好休息，認(rèn)真療愈自我，接受有益的治療，讓自己重新穩(wěn)定下來。最近我有很多靈感，感覺已經(jīng)準(zhǔn)備好開始做音樂了。有時(shí)候，我們只需要知道自己該喘口氣，該休眠一會(huì)兒，過后我們就能感到自己變得更強(qiáng)大。我真的非常感激大家對(duì)我的接納和關(guān)愛。這證明我們的文化開始認(rèn)真對(duì)待心理健康這個(gè)議題。

It’s interesting to think how differently that announcement would have been received even just five or 10 years ago.

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I think 10 years ago, artists wouldn’t do a thing like that because of the amount of pressure and fear they feel about how it would be received. Which is sad to think about but also amazing to see how far we’ve come. I feel very lucky.

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要是在5年或10年前，人們聽到這樣的消息，反應(yīng)一定會(huì)非常不同。

我認(rèn)為，10年前不會(huì)有藝人敢這么做。因?yàn)橐坏┤藗兟牭竭@樣的消息，藝人將無法承受巨大的壓力和恐懼，想到這一點(diǎn)，我很難受。但現(xiàn)在情況變了，我們的進(jìn)步非常值得贊嘆。我是幸運(yùn)的！

You mentioned you’ve been focused on rest, on therapy and on taking care of yourself. Have you tried any out-there modalities?

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Like?ayahuasca?

你提到你非常專注于休息、治療和照顧自己，你有沒有嘗試過什么不同尋常的治療方法？

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類似喝死藤水的療法嗎？【死藤水是一種藥用植物。這種植物和其他幾種植物混合起來煮制的湯藥，具有祛病提神、強(qiáng)身健體的功效。】

You can answer the question however you want.

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There are so many modalities of therapy, and I think the important thing for me has been [honoring] whatever my pace is and doing the things that feel natural and safe. It really depends, you know? Each person goes through something different. For me, it’s been a mixture of a few different things, but the best therapy I’ve done is called compassionate inquiry with an amazing therapist. It’s tough and not everybody can afford therapy, but there are great platforms that offer it at a discount. My dream would be for everyone to work with a great therapist once a week. That would be a dream. Do you go to therapy?

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你怎么回答這個(gè)問題都可以。

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目前有很多種治療方法，但我最看重的是專注于自己的節(jié)奏，做讓我自然和安適的事情。這真的因人而異，每個(gè)人應(yīng)對(duì)的事情都不一樣。對(duì)我來說，我在同時(shí)應(yīng)對(duì)幾件不同的事情。不過我做過最好的心理治療是和一位很棒的治療師做的，是一種同理談話療法。心理治療很難，并不是所有人都能負(fù)擔(dān)得起。但現(xiàn)在有好的平臺(tái)在提供折扣。我的理想就是讓所有人每周都能有一次和治療師在一起的機(jī)會(huì)，那算是一個(gè)遠(yuǎn)大的夢(mèng)想吧。那你呢？參加過心理治療嗎？

I don’t, but maybe I should. We’re all on our own path, right?

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沒有。但或許我應(yīng)該試試。我們都有自己的路要走，對(duì)吧？

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We’re all on our own path, exactly.

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是這樣的，我們都有自己的路要走。

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You are the new face of David Yurman. What does it mean to you to be a brand ambassador?

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It really feels great, to be honest. They have such timeless pieces that have always spoken to me, and I’m so honored to be a part of what they’re doing. I love jewelry and have been a fan of the brand for a long time, so it felt natural to do this with them, to bring these collections to life.

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你是David Yurman的新代言人。成為品牌大使對(duì)你意味著什么？

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說實(shí)話，感覺真的很好。他們有如此經(jīng)典的作品，與自我進(jìn)行對(duì)話，我很榮幸能成為這個(gè)品牌的一部分。我喜歡珠寶，并且一直是David Yurman的粉絲，所以，和他們合作，把新的珠寶作品呈現(xiàn)給大家，整個(gè)過程非常自然。

I want to ask you about style and your relationship to jewelry. What is your earliest memory of jewelry?

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My dad used to wear this big silver necklace with an oval that almost looked like it had a mirror on it. I remember as a kid thinking it looked so cool on him. He had this jewelry box in the bedroom, and I used to go in there and put all his jewelry on. It was a thing I did. I remember as a kid really loving that. My mom took me to get my ear pierced when I was in second grade, which at the time was very crazy but very cool. I also used to wear this fake diamond in school. I loved that. But it wasn’t until I was like 17 that I put a ring on, my grandfather’s ring. I still wear it. That was the real intro to jewelry for me. Little by little I’ve started adding pieces, and now it’s become a part of my identity.

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我想知道你對(duì)藝術(shù)風(fēng)格的看法，以及你和珠寶的關(guān)系。你對(duì)珠寶最早的記憶是什么？

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我爸爸戴過一條很大的銀項(xiàng)鏈，上面有一個(gè)橢圓形的東西，就像一面鏡子。我記得小時(shí)候覺得他戴這個(gè)項(xiàng)鏈很酷。他的臥室里有一個(gè)珠寶盒，我經(jīng)常去那里把他的珠寶都戴上。我確實(shí)干過這件事，小時(shí)候真的很喜歡這樣。二年級(jí)的時(shí)候，媽媽帶我去打耳洞，這在當(dāng)時(shí)看來很瘋狂，但是很酷。我還在學(xué)校里戴過假的鉆石，特喜歡。但事實(shí)上，我17歲時(shí)才真正開始戴戒指，那是我祖父的戒指。我現(xiàn)在還會(huì)戴著它。祖父的戒指帶我走進(jìn)了珠寶世界的大門。漸漸地，我開始增加佩戴珠寶的數(shù)量，現(xiàn)在珠寶已經(jīng)成為我的一部分。

Tell me about your grandfather’s ring.

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I never got to meet my grandfather. He passed away a year before I was born. My grandmother gave me their 25th anniversary ring. It’s something I’ve treasured for a long time.

我想知道你祖父留給你的戒指

我從未見過我爺爺，他在我出生前一年就去世了。我奶奶給了我他們的25周年紀(jì)念戒指。這是我珍藏已久的寶貝。

What does it look like?

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Here’s the thing, I’m not telling the entire truth. I feel some shame because, when I was 19 or 20 in the middle of a tour, I lost [that ring]. Now I wear another one of his rings. But which one do you want to know about, the one I currently wear or the one I used to wear?

這個(gè)戒指是什么樣的？

事情是這樣的，我還沒有告訴你故事的全部。講起來實(shí)在羞愧，在我19或20歲的時(shí)候，有一次巡回演出來到一半的時(shí)候，我把那枚戒指給弄丟了?，F(xiàn)在我又戴上了他的另一枚戒指，你想了解的是哪一枚，現(xiàn)在戴的還是以前的？

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The one you lost.

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The one I lost was a silver ring and it has three stars in the middle, in a row. There are photos of me when I was that age wearing it. It was my biggest loss of an object. I’ve never felt so heartbroken about losing a thing in my life. But it happens.

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我想了解你曾經(jīng)丟失的那枚戒指。

我丟的是一枚銀戒指，中間有三顆星排成一列。我還保存著曾經(jīng)和這枚戒指的照片。這枚戒指是我遺失過的最重要的物品。我從來沒有因?yàn)槭ヒ粋€(gè)東西而如此傷心過，但它確實(shí)不見了。

Maybe it will turn it up?

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Maybe this interview will start a ruckus, and there will be a search party for it.

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或許通過這次采訪會(huì)讓我們找到這枚戒指？

可能這次采訪會(huì)讓大家關(guān)注到這枚戒指，或許將來會(huì)有人組隊(duì)搜尋它的蹤影。

What is your approach to jewelry generally? How do you collect?

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Less is more for me. I’m very, very loyal to jewelry. I’ll wear the same things for years. If I add a piece, I’ll really have to spend a few months with it before I put it into rotation. Talking David Yurman, I have this?green emerald piece?I’ve worn around my neck for two years now. Not a lot of jewelry speaks to me. It actually takes quite a lot.

你對(duì)珠寶的態(tài)度是怎樣的？你如何收藏珠寶？

對(duì)我來說，少即是多。我對(duì)珠寶非常忠誠。一件珠寶我會(huì)戴好幾年。如果我獲得了一件新的珠寶，我會(huì)等好幾個(gè)月才把它加入到穿戴選擇中。說到David Yurman，我有一塊綠寶石，已經(jīng)在我脖子上戴了兩年了。并不是很多珠寶都能跟我產(chǎn)生共鳴，這沒那么容易。

Are you into birthstones?

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To be honest with you, if my birth stone was a little bit nicer of a color, I think I would be. Nothing against this stone, but it’s called peridot and it’s a yellowy-green. I don’t love the color. My birth stone doesn’t speak to me the way an emerald does. If my birthstone was sapphire or emerald, I would be like, yes, that’s all I wear.

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你對(duì)生辰石感興趣嗎？

老實(shí)說，如果我的生辰石的顏色再好看一點(diǎn)，我應(yīng)該會(huì)喜歡。我的生辰石叫橄欖石，是黃綠色的，我并不排斥它，只是不喜歡它的顏色。我的生辰石并不像綠寶石那樣和我共鳴，如果我的生辰石是藍(lán)寶石或綠寶石，我就會(huì)只選它，沒錯(cuò)，就只戴這個(gè)。

Do you have any guilty pleasures?

I go on YouTube binges most evenings. I’ve been into these camping videos, it’s like?ASMR?camping. I’ll watch those for like two hours

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你有什么罪惡的樂趣嗎？

我經(jīng)常夜晚沉迷YouTube。我特別喜歡一些露營(yíng)視頻，是那種ASMR的露營(yíng)視頻，我能看上兩個(gè)小時(shí)。

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Why are those interesting to you?

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They’re very calming. I had it on in my house the other day and my parents came in and said, “What are you watching, what is this silent camping video?” And my sister said, “Our generation is very anxious, we need to watch things that calm us down.”

你為什么對(duì)這些視頻感興趣？

這些視頻讓我非常平靜。有一天我在家里看視頻，我父母看到問：“你在看什么，這個(gè)沒有聲音的露營(yíng)視頻是什么？” 我妹妹說：“我們這一代人非常焦慮，我們需要看一些能讓我們平靜下來的東西?！?/p>

Where are you with making new music? Are you in the studio these days?

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I’m slowly kind of easing into it. I have some apprehension because I’m nervous. I haven’t been in there for a while. I have a high standard and I just want to make sure I give myself some space. It takes a minute. You have to build up the confidence, you have to build up the inspiration and then you have to go in there every day. I’m at the point now where I’m about to start doing the things; all the building, all the foundation has been set, and now I’m almost ready to start going into the studio.

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你在哪里寫新歌呢？你這幾天在錄音棚里嗎？

我正在慢慢地適應(yīng)。我有些擔(dān)心，因?yàn)槲液芫o張。我已經(jīng)有一段時(shí)間沒去過了。我對(duì)自己要求很高，我只是想確保留給自己一些空間。這會(huì)花點(diǎn)時(shí)間。你首先必須建立信心，建立靈感，然后你必須每天都保持那種狀態(tài)。目前的話，我馬上就要開始工作了。所有的前期基礎(chǔ)都已經(jīng)打好了，我已經(jīng)要準(zhǔn)備好去錄音棚了。

What would you tell your teenage self when you were just starting out?

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Really great question. I would say something along the lines of, “It’s not easy to do and it doesn’t feel good at the moment, but setting boundaries doesn’t make you a mean person. It actually makes you a really kind person.”

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你對(duì)曾經(jīng)剛開始事業(yè)的自己有什么想說的嗎？

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好棒的問題。我會(huì)這樣說，“和他人劃清界限不會(huì)讓你顯得很刻薄，盡管這做起來并不容易，一時(shí)半會(huì)可能感覺不太好，但它其實(shí)會(huì)讓你成為一個(gè)很善良的人?！?/p>

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Is boundary-setting something you’ve been practicing lately? How has that changed you?

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No one likes to?set boundaries. No one likes to make people feel like they’re crossing something. Ultimately, if there is a real relationship there and real care, even if it feels hard in the moment, I think boundaries are extremely important. I’m starting to learn how to do that. I’m starting to forgive myself. That has been really helpful for me, and helpful for the people in my life. I have more patience, love and more space for them because of that.

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你最近一直在學(xué)會(huì)和他人劃清界限嗎？這是怎么改變你的？

沒有人喜歡和他人設(shè)定界限。但也沒人想讓別人覺得他們沒有邊界感。如果在一段真誠的關(guān)系中，真正地關(guān)心彼此，即使劃清界限一時(shí)半會(huì)兒很難，我想它最終都會(huì)顯得至關(guān)重要。我正在學(xué)會(huì)去這樣做，我開始原諒我自己。這對(duì)我，以及我生活中的其他人，都很有幫助。因?yàn)檫@一切，我變得更加耐心，收獲了更多的愛和空間。

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