Posted byu/PM-ME-YUAN China1 day ago
This has been bugging me for a long time now almost a year since when I first moved to China.

自我一年前第一次來到中國，這個問題就一直困擾著我。

In the west i bought a lot of Chinese products such as electrical appliances which were inexpensive and ok in quality. Compared to Japanese Korean or western electronic appliances.

在西方，我買過很多中國產(chǎn)品，如家用電器，這些產(chǎn)品與日本、韓國和西方國家的相比，價格更便宜且質(zhì)量也相當可靠。

These two disconnects in price have just been bugging me.

中國和西方在這兩方面（電器和服裝）價格上的差異一直令我感到困擾。

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plorrf
Most answers here don’t address the very real differences in cost structures. Europe and the US have incredibly efficient retail sectors with large scale economies of scale excellent distribution networks high labor productivity high purchasing power and fast product turnover. All of which result in low total product costs. Combine that with a very competitive retail landscape and you have high volumes low margins meaning low prices.

大部分回復(fù)并沒有提到成本結(jié)構(gòu)方面存在著的真正差異。歐洲和美國擁有體量巨大效率極高的零售業(yè)和優(yōu)秀的經(jīng)銷網(wǎng)絡(luò)，并且他們的勞動生產(chǎn)率高，購買力強，貨物流通快速。所有這些因素降低了產(chǎn)品的總成本。薄利多銷再加上強大的競爭力，產(chǎn)品的價格自然就降低了。

One of the main reasons e-commerce works so well in China is because of really cheap labor. If and when that changes same day deliveries by e-bike just won't be feasible anymore.
But there is a huge speculative bubble in retail spaces few of the empty mega malls all over the China will likely succeed and generate a ROI.

電子商務(wù)在中國發(fā)展得這么好的一個主要原因在于其廉價的勞動力。如果快遞無法當天送達的話，那么電子商務(wù)的可行性就不復(fù)存在。但是零售業(yè)存在著巨大的投機泡沫，全中國大型購物中心空空蕩蕩沒有幾家有可能成功，并具有投資回報率。

stealmyrecords
Gotta shop online bud. I know that's not a great option for clothing but if you're looking at electronics appliances imported cooking ingredients etc. Taobao and JD are the way to go. E-commerce is the thing in China those companies are way more streamlined and efficient than your typical big-box store thus you get lower prices. And actually I've been pretty lucky with buying t-shirts socks and shoes online.

兄嘚，學(xué)著在網(wǎng)上購物啊。。我知道衣服的話網(wǎng)上買不是一個好主意，但如果你要買電子產(chǎn)品、家用電器、進口食材等物品的話，淘寶和京東是個不錯的選擇。在中國電子商務(wù)就是這么一回事，這些公司比典型的大商店要更加精簡高效，所以上面的東西往往價格較低。事實上，我的T恤、襪子還有鞋子都是網(wǎng)上買的，而且穿得都很順心。

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fasterfind
You are correct. Prices for all goods are remarkably high in China especially clothing. Western retail giants get the inside deal and there's strong competition to sell cheap. China kind of lacks that competition (for some reason).
As a foreigner you get high pay. That totally makes up for it.

你說得沒錯，中國所有東西的價格都特別高，尤其是衣服。西方零售業(yè)巨頭間會進行內(nèi)部交易，且因為競爭激烈，所以產(chǎn)品價格賣的都很便宜。中國由于某些原因缺乏這樣的競爭。在華外國人的工資較高，因此完全可以彌補高物價帶來的損失。

Tjaeng
1.Do you haggle? Might also want to look up the exact same item on Taobao. Domestically produced electronics and clothes seem like the bread and butter of online shopping in China.

1.你會砍價嗎？或許你可以查一下同樣的東西在淘寶網(wǎng)上賣什么價格。國內(nèi)制造的電子產(chǎn)品和服裝似乎是網(wǎng)購行業(yè)的主要收入來源。

2.Stores in China probably have less optimal space usage staff productivity and product stock management because expected ROI is lower. Just look at how often you come upon stores whose business idea lack of customers ridiculously large staffs and/or crazy amount of shelf product makes you go ”wtf how do they survive”. Probably by selling fewer things at a higher margin to poor saps who don’t haggle (see #1).

2.由于預(yù)期的投資回報率較低，中國商店的空間使用并不是最優(yōu)化，員工生產(chǎn)力較低，產(chǎn)品庫存管理能力也較差。只要了解一下你逛商店的頻率，這些商店的經(jīng)驗理念，門可羅雀的慘淡景象，多到令人發(fā)指的員工數(shù)量以及貨架上超大的商品存貨量就能打消你逛下去的欲望，直呼“天啊，它們是怎么撐下來的？”或許他們把東西都賣給那些不會砍價的傻瓜，賣出去的東西雖然少，但是利潤卻變高了（參見第一點）。

3.Some places are just fronts for money laundering/prostitution/public incentive scam/somewhere for the rich brother of the local urban planning bureau chief to create a management position for his idiot son-in-law. Or all of the above.

3.一些店鋪只不過是為洗錢、賣淫和公共詐騙活動打掩護?；蚴菫楫?shù)爻鞘幸?guī)劃局局長有錢的兄弟服務(wù)，為他的笨女婿謀取一個領(lǐng)導(dǎo)崗位。又或者兩者兼而有之。

PM-ME-YUAN
Walmart or H&M. Same places I'd go in the west really. I've never been a fan of online shopping.

我一般會去沃爾瑪或H&M購物。在西方國家時我一般也是選這兩個地方。我一直不喜歡網(wǎng)購。

GuessImStuckWithThis
If you buy Chinese it's cheaper. If you're shopping at foreign stores they have to pay import duties on everything. Also I think H & M aim for a slightly higher market in China.

如果你買的是中國商品，那么價格會更加便宜。如果你是在外國商店購物，那么你就要多交一筆進口稅。而且我認為H&M在中國的目標是檔次更高的市場。

qingdaosteakandlube
I've always found that H+M is pretty equivalent to what I paid in the US. I don't understand that one.
I told him upthread that you can find good quality stuff if you look. Taobao isn't great for cheap clothes because what you see is almost never what you get when you pay the low prices.
Every city has it's dealers. I have a two tailors two shoe guys a brand name factory lady and a knock-off guy. You just have to ask around in the expat community and make Chinese contacts. If you see someone with a Burberry scarf ask them it's a 50/50 chance that it's a knock-off or factory extra.

我一直覺得在中國H&M的價格和我在美國買到的差不多，所以我不懂為什么說在中國買H M會更貴。我在上面就告訴他，找找的話，總是能找到質(zhì)量優(yōu)質(zhì)的產(chǎn)品的。要買便宜的衣服，那么淘寶絕非理想之地。淘寶上的東西價格雖低，但你在上面看到的東西和你實際拿到手的會相差甚遠。每個城市都有自己的經(jīng)銷商。我有兩個裁縫，兩個鞋匠，一個在品牌店工廠工作的女工，和一個會山寨的伙計。你只要到外籍人士社區(qū)問問，并和中國人建立聯(lián)系就可以了。如果你看到有人帶著博柏利牌的圍巾，上去問問他們，這條圍巾要么是山寨貨，要么是正品。